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Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Nobody: 3:23pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
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Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by coolshegs10(m): 3:23pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
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Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by dayoungmoney1: 3:24pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
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Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Nobody: 3:30pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
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Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by timilehing(m): 3:31pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
I prefer we have just a denomination where everyone worships. There won't be all these "my church is this, your church is that", there won't be contradicting doctrines |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by speedyGonzales: 3:35pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
sochima1989: Thanks man! you don't sound dumb at all... Select and read only books and things that gives you a one-sided view of the world... that is not dumb at all. I believe that is a backwards notion for a modern world, if you read Quran, Bible and other books, you gain more knowledge and have a better understanding of what you are believing and can confidently argue against unbelievers like me, but if you live in your bubble, and are ignorant, then you stand no chance... religion as whole is dragging Nigeria down and creating a massive hole in the pockets of gullible Nigerians. Most of the knowledge that has propelled the human race into what is known in the 21st century, is because people dared to challenge the norm, and investigate it further, Aristotle, said heavy objects always fall faster to earth than lighter objects and people believed this to be true for decades till someone bordered to it test out... even basic knowledge like the fact the earth was not at the centre of the universe the catholic church burnt people, who believed this... but today we send communications/tv satellites in to space, having calculated all the effects of the gravitation and radiation from the sun on them. but hey, my insistence of understanding the universe created by "the Mythical Zeus or the Yoruba Ọlọ́run" in a provable and verifiable way is dumb... for a 21st century Nigerian? 2 Likes |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by menxer: 3:43pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
so God in his infinite wisdom would inspire just one book in the thousands of years man has come to worship him? I doubt. saved: what does it really mean? if say I am "saved" who can say I am not? if being saved is the criterion for going to heaven, how can one calibrate ones level of "savedness"? if "in my father's house (Kingdom) there are many mansions", how come there is only one entrance (Jesus)? just my opinion. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by damton(m): 3:43pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
The church has lost its bearing and substance a longtime ago. Rather than spiritualise the mundane, we are now secularising the sacred |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Ishilove: 3:55pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
madgoat:Interesting opinion. Why do you think C&S were wrong to 'honour' Don Jazzy? |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by ekemini606: 3:56pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Proudly synagogue! Reason! No other man of God suffers the same trial as glaring as tb joshua. I mean the name alone inspire hate. If ur in a ministry and ur yet to see your pastor suffers persecution to embarrasing level,( not the one he told you, i mean the one you withness).pls kindly move away, he is not growing. Its the persecution we suffer as christian s that make us know to the world. The name synagogue speaks for itself .neither a Pentecostal nor catholic, or a celestial.CNT fit it in a box. Its a church for all nations. Not a member of CAN.. Or any know christian group.pretty much stands alone. Have you ever been in a church where someone stands in your face and give testimony about being delivered form the spirit of pornography or masturbation?.. Well let's just say not all ministries can handle that. Recently saw tb Joshua crusade in mexico. Well this packed a whole stadiums in an non English county.with CeCe winas and Alvin slaughter in attendance. Yes! The false prophet you know. Finally. Christ in his life time wasn't popular, he was controversial. If history on Christianity has thought me anything, is to keep an eye for the controversial once. Did I mention A.A allen made a prophesy to this day concerning him. Naija wait, for it, its coming. kill it! It won't die. Havnt thy tried to kill it several time, is it dead or growing? funny funny funny! Proudly synagogues Grace of God abide with you my belove prophet. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by livebullet(m): 4:00pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
iliyande: U forgot to add the crave for worldy wealth e.g private jets and personal estates...as common in naija...No need to shy away from this fact 2 Likes |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by waice6571: 4:02pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
lekjons:Jehovah witnesses will tell you the fact/reality but never the truth because they neither know nor have the truth about God, Jesus Christ, Holy Ghost, Heaven, Earth and Man. Pls be very careful! |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Sunmansco2000: 4:07pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Seconded. GOD BLESS U ekemini606: |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by waice6571: 4:19pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
exxell:wonder shall never end! A catholic calling himself xtian and still bragging about it. Until you recorgnise the Lordship of Jesus Christ over you and do away with worship of images and burning of incense and other demonic practices and doctrines. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by wordcat(m): 4:26pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
iliyande: Bible having many versions is a prove that it isn't a word of God. Bhagavad Gita is a better book than the bible |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Equiano: 4:28pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
waice6571:jehovah's witnesses knows f truth abt God(that's he's nt a thrinity), Jesus(Godks son), Holy spirit( not holy ghost cos a ghost cnt b holy, Gods active force not a person) 1 Like |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by anibi9674: 4:29pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
sochima1989:i must quote you because you just spoke the truth . |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Nobody: 4:34pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
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Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Sheikwonder(m): 4:41pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
@O.P- Point 5 is highly contentious.Think about it,is anything really absolute? -God abhors adultery,yet he commanded Hosea to marry a prostitute. -He hates murder yet he commanded Saul to wipe out women and children. -He hates Jealousy but is himself a jealous God -He called certain animals unclean to eat in the Old testament but clean to eat in the New testament -In Deut.22:11,he says that "you shall not wear a garment of different sorts such as wool and linen mixed together",yet such laws don't hold today. Of course in context you may have explanations for the above.You may argue that in the new dispensation certain laws are gone etc,but it only proves that nothing is absolute but rather relative and subject to time and various circumstances. P.S-I'm a Christian... |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by hairyman(m): 4:57pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
The Bible is as much the word of god as is the Quran and all these other 'holy' books you named. Christians are quick to quote Timothy forgetting that when Timothy wrote his piece there was no Bible. He was talking about his own writing which he believed is the word of god. Is the bible inerrant? It must take a bigot to believe otherwise, why not, if 'common' humans know that slavery which the great word of god sanctioned is abominable and so abolished it. Religion is diverse. Intact diversity is the beginning and end of religion. People must learn to live and let others live too. Let's Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists and the rest practice their religion. The much you laugh at theirs is how much they laugh at yours. Some of the Christian beliefs are outrightly ridiculous to them also. And don't forget their messiahs were already dying for them and being born by virgin mothers before Christianity came about. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by osesology(m): 5:03pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
A popular man of God in my city, Benin(i won't mention his name) once held a crusade. So as to persuade more people to come, he decided to invite KANU and OKOCHA. Automatically that become the theme of the crusade: ``KANU AND OKOCHA ARE ALSO COMING, SO COME ONE COME ALL''! May God help this generation of mine in Jesus name, Amen. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by FRANKOXY(m): 5:12pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
WHERE DO JEHOVAH WITNESS BELONG? |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by AngryNigerian(m): 5:13pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
To claim that it is not inspired is to reduce it to the level of the Quran... ...dat was not fair! I'm a pragmatic christian,but I don't accept dat one should drive his luck that far... Appologies to all faithful Muslims in the house 1 Like |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by FRANKOXY(m): 5:14pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
HOW ABOUT THOSE WHO SAY THAT GOD PUNISHES THOSE WHO DON'T PAY TITHE EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT? |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by So4baba(m): 5:14pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
exxell:Do you really know who a Christian is? ,, you utter foul words "calling someone mad" and yu kud still boast of it as a Catholic? These are not the trait of a Christian pls,, you kud just call ursef a church goer and we wld understand..And are you a Christian because you were born into the church? NO!!.. YOU BECOME a CHRISTIAN when you ve accepted Christ as your Lord and saviour, this my brother isn't achieved at birth.. I pray the Lord bless you with his words.. 2 Likes |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Mubz(m): 5:16pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
The only reason why 80-90% of Nigerians are Christians is because they are born into the family. Someone suggested you read other books to expand your knowledge, and you start to trade insults at the person. Why don't you think, "God" must have given us a brain for a purpose, use it. Think about this; what if you were born in Syria, or Iran, or India or Shangai? One even went to the extent of saying Muslims, Buddhist, and all wont enter heaven, smh!. Try being logical; Was Abraham, Moses, Solomon, Noah or even Adam christians? I believe the Bible believed in the existence of these righteous beings, but then according to your ignorant self, they won't be going heaven, of course they are not Christians. So please, just think, read vast, think, read vast, think.. Repeat these and you will be on your way to real salvation Now wait, I am,not saying being a Christian isn't good, but if you are going to be one, make it justifiable by using God given gift "the brain" 1 Like |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by iliyande(m): 5:17pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
So4baba: Thanks, I just don't have to respond to some of them. Christianity is all about standard which is Jesus. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by So4baba(m): 5:23pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
waice6571:Thank you,,people do not understand that there is a clear difference fact and truth.. It's a spiritual knowledge.. The latter is greater than the former.. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by Montaque(m): 5:28pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
Op. You forgot to mention the worst of it. preaching and living as if we don't have an after-life. No mention of rapture, heaven, he'll, judgment day. Just focusing on fulfilling destiny, and having everything work for u while alive. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by ezeagu(m): 5:29pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
speedyGonzales: What do you think Jesus was doing when he ascended to the sky? He was off to his next stop at Jupiter nau. |
Re: 6 Signs That Show A Church Is Becoming Secular. Part 1 by ezeagu(m): 5:30pm On Sep 13, 2015 |
sochima1989: Can't you see how you've been duped? |
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