iliyande:


Muslims Very funny religion that concern more about others religion than their mohammed the king of Jihad/takiya

Chill sir ignoramus.
Those terrorists ain't Muslim believers.
Do yourself a favour. See beyond deceit and delusion.
We believe in peace and unity. Not terrorism.

Shall we go to where jesus was ordering people to slaughter his enemies i bet you've never seen it in the Bible

Luke 19:27 --But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me

jesus OMG!!!

So4baba:

Did you say apostle Paul invented Christianity?.. Urghhh,, you are wrong.. It's nt an invention,, Christianity is a submission and acceptance of Christ Jesus as ur Lord and saviour and of course yes,, He saves.. You quoted "mark 14:50" ,and linked it to the crucifixion of Christ Jesus, you wld v done ursef a lot of good if yu HD read the whole passage,, it was talking of the night when Judas led the pharisee to come arrest Jesus, far from the day he was crucified,, pls enlighten ursef about the word,, all ur scriptural quotes are taken out of context and given meaning yu wnt dem to suite which are wrong.. Pls seek knowledge

I had expected a knowledgeable answer to the submissions of mubara*from you on the minutest evidences he gave, he was only being economical with the mendacity of the op. I also laugh at the op trash and was rearing to really educate him on his heresies. In as much I had prefer to laugh at his chronic ignorant and per extension others who commented on the subject plus your humble self.

Rather than educate further the sealed hearts, I had expected you and other good xtains to wear the cloak of holy spirit which mubara* do not have to explain in truth the spirituality inherent in the songs of Solomon and why Jesus cried and accused His God for negligence and for forsaking him if truly the bible is God's book and not a comic super story.

.

iliyande:


Muslims Very funny religion that concern more about others religion than their mohammed the king of Jihad/takiya

Imagine this simple display of ignorance. This comment shows how dogmatic and an apostle of "my fastor said", not God said.

How can an op display crass ignorance and wallowing in ignominy, to say the obvious, you only did copy and paste from a satan posing as a guide just to defraud you as usual.

Please, wear the robe of holy spirit and dis-proof the plain truth he said to the loss sheep of the world.

transient123:


I had expected a knowledgeable answer to the submissions of mubara*from you on the minutest evidences he gave, he was only being economical with the mendacity of the op. I also laugh at the op trash and was rearing to really educate him on his heresies. In as much I had prefer to laugh at his chronic ignorant and per extension others who commented on the subject plus your humble self.

Rather than educate further the sealed hearts, I had expected you and other good xtains to wear the cloak of holy spirit which mubara* do not have to explain in truth the spirituality inherent in the songs of Solomon and why Jesus cried and accused His God for negligence and for forsaking him if truly the bible is God's book and not a comic super story.

God bless you sir. They shy away. They can't address it any way. I swear they can't. Because the points I raised is pointing out the flaws of the Bible which none of them can explain. That part saying jesus is servant of God. They can't. That part where Jesus ordered people to kill his enemy in front of him. They can not explain.

mubarakopeyemi:


Chill sir ignoramus.
Those terrorists ain't Muslim believers.
Do yourself a favour. See beyond deceit and delusion.
We believe in peace and unity. Not terrorism.

Shall we go to where jesus was ordering people to slaughter his enemies i bet you've never seen it in the Bible

Luke 19:27 --But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me

jesus OMG!!!

Hahaha I see

iliyande:


Hahaha I see

I bet you ain't know that your fictional 'saviour' was this cruel

Dancing 'shorki' during praises...

@OP aren't you secular ursef...
abi you no dry hear olamide, phyno and co?

[quote author=iliyande post=37963054]What does a secular church look like?

Would it be easy to find one?

If we find something in the church that is contrary to Scripture but is taught in the secular world, then that church has become--in part--secularized. The more we find from the world in the church, the more that church is secularized.
1. Teaching that the Bible is not inspired and inerrant.

The Bible is the Word of God (2 Tim. 3:16) and is the measure of truth and righteousness. To claim that it is not inspired is to reduce it to the level of the Quran, or the Bhagavad-Gita, or the Book of Mormon which are mere man-made writings posing as inspired words from God.
Following is a list of things that, in my opinion, are examples of secularization in the church. Of course, this list is not exhaustive nor is it authoritative. It is my opinion. Nevertheless, it is offered as food for thought.

1. Teaching that the Bible is not inspired and inerrant.

The Bible is the Word of God (2 Tim. 3:16) and is the measure of truth and righteousness. To claim that it is not inspired is to reduce it to the level of the Quran, or the Bhagavad-Gita, or the Book of Mormon which are mere man-made writings posing as inspired words from God.

When the authority of God's Word is lost, then man-made doctrines creep in. The authority and inspiration of Scripture is the anchor that keeps the church from drifting into error.

What has Quran got to do with what is on ground?

FRANKOXY:
HOW ABOUT THOSE WHO SAY THAT GOD PUNISHES THOSE WHO DON'T PAY TITHE EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT?

and how do you pay tithe when there is no income or revenue. tithe is 1/10 of your income.
NB: not your full capital,just profit.

mubarakopeyemi:


I dont need to go too far with you on this.
Show me where in the Bible jesus said he is your personal Lord and Savior. That's all I ask. Jesus is a servant of God or a messenger of God you just decided to ignore John 17:3 Acts 4:27 and Acts 4:30 which says jesus is servant of God but you can see mark 14:59. That's the height of hypocrisy of you xtians. Thus the way the Bible has been corrupted. All those craps of son of God Trinity and all that confuses even you the xtians.
You say he's son of God today you say he's God tomorrow. How the hell on earth will there be so mucb confusion in the supposed God's revelation. Those that wrote the Bible didnt even know him personally. Well just provide me with what I ask first. God even said in the Bible that he only is God and no other person shall be God apart from him.

Isaiah 42:8 -- I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

Jesus is messenger of God. The Jesus who couldn't save himself from death and he had to call upon the real Lord that why has he forsaken him He could have saved himself that moment if he was truly a saviour. Show me where in the bible Jesus told you to accept him as your personal Lord and saviour.
Dont be deceived. Islam is the way. Jesus is just a messenger of God.
We Muslims believe in Jesus he's our prophet. Not the Jesus in Bible. The Jesus in Bible is a false character which those that wrote about him didn't even know him. You know Jesus was ridiculed in the Bible? I know you don't but I will let you know.
In the Bible logically jesus is going to hell.
When you read Matthew 5:22 and Matthew 23:17

Mathew 5:22- But i tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, 'Raca,' is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

Then to Matthew 23:17-- You fools and blind men! Which is more important, the gold or the temple that sanctified the gold?

Cool. So now Jesus himself said whoever calls someone a fool shall go to hell well Jesus himself just called a group of people Fools. How about that.??

Hence the reason you need to question the Bible and the so called people that wrote it.

Once again Jesus is never a saviour he is a messenger.
More to come about how jesus and God was ridiculed in the Bible o. But use that as an appetizer first.

Qur'an the light and truth. Accept it

i might not believe in all that u have said.but its very true that those who wrote the bible does not know him personally,because even luke the great physician never saw jesus.he always prays to the "unknown god".

Good points

chidekings:



i might not believe in all that u have said.but its very true that those who wrote the bible does not know him personally,because even luke the great physician never saw jesus.he always prays to the "unknown god".

All I've told you is the plain truth brother. The Bible is never a word of God. God and jesus which the Bible represents Ridiculed both God and Jesus Insolently. How will the book of God contain Pornoprahi.c texts and expressions. How will the book of God be so contradictory. Those that wrote the Bible has insulted God's ability of perfection. No word of God shall be as the Bible. The OP was just blind and not foresighted. He could have addressed his xtian brothers rather than including Quran Muslims and other religion in his questful delusion of Morality. I dont talk on things like this but when I do. I do it with sense and facts and that might hurt the belief of some Christians. But why feel hurt when you can see the truth? If you're ready to accept the truth you will get over the hurt. For God is far better for Bible to be attributed to him.

its alarming the level of spiritual decadence but i'm not surprised because the scrip yt? ures had warned us already saying "For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed" (isaiah 9:16). Also, in 2nd corinthian 11 : 14-15 it was stated "And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. So let true christians be careful & continue to uncompromisinly make the TRUTH OF BIBLE THEIR PIVOT

mubarakopeyemi:


All I've told you is the plain truth brother. The Bible is never a word of God. God and jesus which the Bible represents Ridiculed both God and Jesus Insolently. How will the book of God contain Pornoprahi.c texts and expressions. How will the book of God be so contradictory. Those that wrote the Bible has insulted God's ability of perfection. No word of God shall be as the Bible. The OP was just blind and not foresighted. He could have addressed his xtian brothers rather than including Quran Muslims and other religion in his questful delusion of Morality. I dont talk on things like this but when I do. I do it with sense and facts and that might hurt the belief of some Christians. But why feel hurt when you can see the truth? If you're ready to accept the truth you will get over the hurt. For God is far better for Bible to be attributed to him.

I don't know why this guy is so hurt in christianity, another terrorist in the making . I don't blame you sha. As far as I am concern I know that Muslims are always like you, I have one in my place of work who argue even to the fighting point. JESUS IS GOD. you may accept it or not, That will never change my mind me to accept mohammed as prophet. Why don't you defend your world wide wide ranges of terrorism than spending so much time trying to get people to disbelief their ways of worship.

As you said, the Bible is corrupt, please Can you bring out the real Bible copy?
I bet you if only Muslims have something like original copy of the Bible it would been reproduced even more than the quran itself.

Sorry bro my believe should not be a problem to you at all

Anyone who read below quaran verses will understand actually what you are saying :

Quran 9:29:

"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

Here, Allah the Islamic God commands Muslims to attack and kill the so-called 'people of the book' (i.e. Jews and Christians), until they are defeated and submitted to the supremacy of Islam and, in willing humiliation, pay jizya (submission) tax to Muslims. Like verse 9:5, 9:29 is a call to mass murder and extermination. Only Hitler had openly instructed his followers to exterminate the Jews so completely. When such a teaching is presented as a teaching of the Creator of the Universe, it becomes extremely evil.

So4baba:

Christ"christos" means messiah, saviour,Mediator, sin coverer, God's model on earth... I kud go on

Yheepa
Dis guy funny oo,like I said earlier I won't argue with u bt will advise u to go nd get a bible that has an index meaning den check wat Christ means from dia... first lesson ni yen fah

exxell:


Are you mad? Even me A Christian and A Catholic for that matter can't utter that useless line. Are you aware that you are A Christian because that is what you were born into?

shut up, you are not a real christian for saying that.

https://www.nairaland.com/2596437/cherubim-seraphim-church-honors-donjazzy

That's gotta be another sign above

iliyande:


I don't know why this guy is so hurt in christianity, another terrorist in the making . I don't blame you sha. As far as I am concern I know that Muslims are always like you, I have one in my place of work who argue even to the fighting point. JESUS IS GOD. you may accept it or not, That will never change my mind me to accept mohammed as prophet. Why don't you defend your world wide wide ranges of terrorism than spending so much time trying to get people to disbelief their ways of worship.

As you said, the Bible is corrupt, please Can you bring out the real Bible copy?
I bet you if only Muslims have something like original copy of the Bible it would been reproduced even more than the quran itself.

Sorry bro my believe should not be a problem to you at all

Anyone who read below quaran verses will understand actually what you are saying :

Quran 9:29:

"Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low."

Here, Allah the Islamic God commands Muslims to attack and kill the so-called 'people of the book' (i.e. Jews and Christians), until they are defeated and submitted to the supremacy of Islam and, in willing humiliation, pay jizya (submission) tax to Muslims. Like verse 9:5, 9:29 is a call to mass murder and extermination. Only Hitler had openly instructed his followers to exterminate the Jews so completely. When such a teaching is presented as a teaching of the Creator of the Universe, it becomes extremely evil.

Lmao.

1- Jesus is God shey. hehehe

If Jesus is God why would the bible call him servant of God again.

Jesus is servant of God! The bible told you that. Or u cant believe what you are reading in your bible ni

John 17:3-- And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Acts 4:27 -- Indeed Herod and Pontius Pilate met together with the Gentiles and the people of Israel in this city to conspire against your holy servant Jesus, whom you anointed.

Acts 4:30--stretch out your hand to heal and perform signs and wonders through the name of your holy servant Jesus."

Jesus is also the Son of God. Yes the Bible said it
John :16 -- For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

What Is jesus now self. Son of God, God or Servant of God . Choi Bible is confused

God has denied Jesus being God
God said in the Bible that he only is God.
Isaiah 42:8 -- I am the LORD; that is my name! I will not yield my glory to another or my praise to idols.

If Jesus is then ya God
Who was your God crying to when the pain hit ya God. He said "eli eli lama sabatatchani"
Matthew 27:46
About three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?" (which means "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?".

Your God was beaten to Stupor. He couldn't save himself. He had to ask Another God why he has forsaken him OMG

If Jesus is your God who is he (Jesus God) calling upon saying "My God My God" Hmm Jesus your God get boss ba Its allowed.

If Jesus is your God would he be having a foot fetish with a lady

Luke 7:38-- As she stood behind him at his feet weeping, she began to wet his feet with her tears. Then she wiped them with her hair, kissed them and poured perfume on them. Mogbe. a lady kissing ya God in the Leg Ya God like sweet feelings

If Jesus is your God why will he have to Die for your sin?? Cant he forgive you truly. And even if your God has took away all your sins why would he have to pray and still ask for forgiveness
Matthew 6:9-13
9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
10 Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
11 Give us this day our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our tresspasses, as we forgive our those who trespassed against us
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen

If jesus is your God why would he not be able to save himself??
If Jesus Is your God why will your God be conquered by Men and Death. Do you think as mighty as God is , can He creates what He can't control ??

You ridicule God too much. Desist before its too late.


Now Further

2 Chronicles 15:13-- All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman
Luke 19:27 -- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me

1 Samuel 15:3 -- Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Numbers chapter 31 details what happen when Moses let the people on the way, they came upon the Moabites and then they entered into war with them and Moses gave the people this instruction: Numbers 31:17 – 18 “17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” According to verses 32 - 35 “32The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man”

Don't even try to say the old testament is for when jesus is not yet arrived because jesus confirmed Moses LAWS.

Matthew 5:17-- "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

Don't you even get to reason that the bible is messed??

if you wanna see the real bible get the Original Greek Bible. And be free.

***********************************************************

How about this.

The bible said God was Drunk.
Psalms 78:65-- Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, as a warrior wakes from the stupor of wine.

Bible said God was shaving hairs

Isaiah 7:20-- In that day the Lord will use a razor hired from beyond the Euphrates River--the king of Assyria--to shave your heads and private parts, and to cut off your beards also. God will shave private parts. Subhanallah. Abasha.

The Bible contains erot.ic expressions also jare.

Song of solomon 1:2-- Let him kiss me with the kisses of his mouth-- for your love is more delightful than wine. Hehe passionate kissing
Song of solomon 4:3--Your lips are like a scarlet thread; your mouth is lovely. Your temples are like a slice of pomegranate behind your veil.

Song of Solomon 7:11-12 --11 Come, my beloved, let us go to the countryside, let us spend the night in the villages. 12 Let us go early to the vineyards to see if the vines have budded, if their blossoms have opened, and if the pomegranates are in bloom-- there I will give you my love.

Song of Solomon 8:1 -- If only you were to me like a brother, who was nursed at my mother's breasts! Then, if I found you outside, I would kiss you, and no one would despise me.


[size=14pt]I pause for now.[/size]

@poster, when you educate your fellow Christians never in your life ridicule the scriptures of other faith. You this religion begot and maggot.

lekjons:
7. Pastors saying God(not even backing it up with a Bible verse)told me to tell u, that u must be present in the vigil
8. Announcements on media saying there will be healing, miracle, breakthrough in a particular revival/vigil, and sounding so sure.. as if they'll bring Merlin

i hate those shïts!

Some pastors are Merlin. They practiced the act of necromancy from their mothers' womb. They make miracle look like a child's play. The thing is, that's what new generations christians are after.

my lesson for today.

muslims una hear follow CHRIST na issue but bomb with GOD name is gud all of una re silly cs if u dnt believe in JESUS 4get it nw am nt judging u dumb brains but advicing

thundafire:
muslims una hear follow CHRIST na issue but bomb with GOD name is gud all of una re silly cs if u dnt believe in JESUS 4get it nw am nt judging u dumb brains but advicing

Shut up You dunno things.

Abeg go sleep.

If u bliv in Jesus why in the process ridicule other people's belief and expect them not to defend their religion. Goat, rather than telling your fellow mumu xtian poster the truth. You just proceeded in ignorance saying bull.sh!t

2 Chronicles 15:13-- All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman

Luke 19:27 -- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me. Jesus said this.

1 Samuel 15:3 -- Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Numbers chapter 31 details what happen when Moses let the people on the way, they came upon the Moabites and then they entered into war with them and Moses gave the people this instruction: Numbers 31:17 – 18 “17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” According to verses 32 - 35 “32The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man”

Don't even try to say the old testament is for when Jesus is not yet arrived because Jesus confirmed Moses LAWS.

Matthew 5:17-- "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

ISIS AND BH aint Muslim believers believe it not that aint ma business . Address the craps about your book the Bible and ya God Jesus which I have posted earlier abeg

olumaxi:
Singing GODWIN in church in d name of thanksgiving.....shouting HALLELUYA SNEH when they were told to praise GOd

werey oooo...hallelujah sneh..lol...lwkmd

mubarakopeyemi:


Shut up You dunno things.

Abeg go sleep.

If u bliv in Jesus why in the process ridicule other people's belief and expect them not to defend their religion. Goat, rather than telling your fellow mumu xtian poster the truth. You just proceeded in ignorance saying bull.sh!t

2 Chronicles 15:13-- All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman

Luke 19:27 -- But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me. Jesus said this.

1 Samuel 15:3 -- Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.'"

Numbers chapter 31 details what happen when Moses let the people on the way, they came upon the Moabites and then they entered into war with them and Moses gave the people this instruction: Numbers 31:17 – 18 “17 Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, 18But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves” According to verses 32 - 35 “32The plunder remaining from the spoils that the soldiers took was 675,000 sheep, 33 72,000 cattle, 34 61,000 donkeys 35 and 32,000 women who had never slept with a man”

Don't even try to say the old testament is for when Jesus is not yet arrived because Jesus confirmed Moses LAWS.

Matthew 5:17-- "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

ISIS AND BH aint Muslim believers believe it not that aint ma business . Address the craps about your book the Bible and ya God Jesus which I have posted earlier abeg

eeyahh ...pele... frm your epistle, i clearly deduced dat ISIS and BH are law abiding Muslims..... idiots

Do not criticise "The Book of Mormon: Another testament of Jesus Christ", I am a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints-the church that uses the book of mormon together with bible. I have read the book of Mormon from cover to cover thrice, and it has made me understand more about Jesus Christ and helps me understand the bible better. The mainstream christianity use ONLY the bible, yet there is so much confusion amongst us that even non christians ridicule christians of disunity, too many denominations and doctrines all drawn out from the same bible for example should we baptize little children or not? Different sects answer yes and some say no but they all back up their answer from the same BIBLE!!! So pls before u criticise, do ur research properly.
Thanks

Fellow Christians pls be tolerant, my muslim brothers pls be tolerant as well, argument about religion are always tense, nobody wins or lose, instead we end up insulting with very crude and vulgar languages ourselves which our very respective religions condemn! One of the 13 articles of faith of my church, the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints says:

"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what
they may"

I am a strong advocate of religion tolerance, I have many good muslim friends and we don't argue abt religion, if we ever talk abt religion, we talk abt uplifting things and not to tear down beliefs that we hold dear. Pls let's be tolerant.

xtophy:



eeyahh ...pele... frm your epistle, i clearly deduced dat ISIS and BH are law abiding Muslims..... idiots

Run Along

kpeshe:
Fellow Christians pls be tolerant, my muslim brothers pls be tolerant as well, argument about religion are always tense, nobody wins or lose, instead we end up insulting with very crude and vulgar languages ourselves which our very respective religions condemn! One of the 13 articles of faith of my church, the church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints says:

"We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what
they may"

I am a strong advocate of religion tolerance, I have many good muslim friends and we don't argue abt religion, if we ever talk abt religion, we talk abt uplifting things and not to tear down beliefs that we hold dear. Pls let's be tolerant.

I see how reasonable you are. God bless u Amuch.
my point is why would he the OP be directly belittling other people's scriptures and faith? He started it himself.
Thanks for addressing the issue with absolute sensibility.