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|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 10:35am On Jun 30|
I copied this information from ex nitel staff fb page. It was posted last wednesday and thought o should share it perhaps anyone has something to say about it or is privy to it.
Boulus Nitel <+2348068769091>, 1.Govt. Has approved life pension
2. Verification to commence after sallah next week.
3. Monthly pension payment commence immidiately after verification
4. 10yrs salary upgrade will be paid with pension
5. 6yrs salary arrears to be paid later.
From: Mazi,who can authenticate this message for me, is Bulus or Mazi a reliable NITEL staff
No. 5 will most likely mean 6yrs pension arrears and not salary which means wef 2011.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 1:48pm On Jun 30|
BlakKluKluxKlan:u saw people's comment where u copied it that it is fake and u still posted it here.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Ancientdeb123: 4:18pm On Jun 30|
Pls segzy wat was the outcome of the meeting with alita and the ptad
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 5:19pm On Jun 30|
Not everybody said it was fake anyway.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by viviansteph: 5:50pm On Jun 30|
If you have worked hard to make life pleasant now...and you hope to continue enjoying such benefits which ofcourse you deserve and should get if you are rightly informed...then this is a place for you.
Truth must be told...
Pm me if interested
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Daewoods(m): 10:28pm On Jun 30|
Ex workers at the meeting said the publication is concerning Nitel @ the verification. So just to wait for date and venue, anybody that can verify so also should please let us hear so.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 6:37am On Jul 01|
Daewoods:why are u looking for people to verify again when those at the meeting have verified it.Its obvious u ain't even sure!u may verify from Ptad on their Facebook page if u care
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 2:50pm On Jul 01|
Ancientdeb123:they were there on Thursday but were told to come have a meeting with the ptad boss nextweek Wednesday
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 10:05am On Jul 05|
Hello people. Still no concrete news regarding date of verification. I asked a former Nitel oga that is in the Halita group and he confirmed that the notification posted by PTAD in the newspapers earlier is for core civil servants. Parastatals verification may happen after this one. Truly the bureaucracy is too slow in Nigeria. I would have expected PTAD to do parastatals and core civil servants together.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by segzy3: 3:21pm On Jul 05|
segzy3:we should know what to put out on this forum,mashi will never send this text.that was how Eng.olabode was quoted wrongly that halita and co had to give him a stern warning. Some people think by just writing anything is how they can be relevant.sometimes when you tell them the truth they doubt u and u feel u are wasting your time here & there isn't good reason keeping them abreast.sometimes I read peoples comment on Facebook where they label ptad as a fraud and keep asking ptad almost everyday when verification will start as if they are recognized. Some even say halita is fighting for herself. Its advisable they stop it and wait till when the verification comes up.I'm done!
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 2:06pm On Jul 06|
With regard to the facebook forum, the sort of posts i read there pissed me off but that is not to say that there aren't reasonable posts.
But if the truth must be said, those representing us do not seem to understand the power of information. Information as and when necessary is lacking. You @segzy3 and @brossiye are the most credible source of information on this forum but you always have to make contact with those in the know to get it and not by direct communication from the leaders or their delegates. Such lapse gives room for people to fill the vacuum by anything. At the rate people grow old, get sicker and die, desperation for information is rather high.
As for hoarding information, the hoader does him/herself no good because what will be will be.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by eniwaye2: 9:12am On Jul 07|
@ brosiye pls I need ur contact. this my email
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 8:05am On Jul 08|
Hello people. I got one news I have to share urgently. On Thursday/friday, PTAD nearly removed Nitel from the soon to be advertised verification of parastatals. Ptad said Nitel pensioners database is not in the format they require hence nearly stopped Nitel from being added. The Nitel reps had to plead before they were given a last chance. The following are needed. scanned copies of the following into jpg files:
Letter of first appointment
Letters of promotion
Payslip of last salary
Letter of retirement/disengagement
This is to be received by 11th july 2017. spread this message around please.
Once the message is received in this email, the nitel reps in abuja have people working on them to be in the format that ptad wants. There is still a lot to be done. Keep this issue in serious prayers because ptad nearly dismissed nitel from the next verification on the excuse that they are not ready. Meanwhile, ptad complained that out of all parastatals, it is only nitel giving them problems e.g. the oluti group and co as well as having records that are not correct e.g. details of people not pensionable as at 2006 disengagement are being found. They insisted that those who are not entitled to pension will not get. e.g those that spent less than 10 years in service under the old defined benefits scheme.
Send this message around to all nitel retirees. Cheers.
@eniwaye; pls endeavour to do same and inform that your person to scan and send all those documents, hope her husband spent up to 10 years in service before his death. at the right time, she can come with all those documents of her late husband when verification starts.
Send all of these to this email: email@example.com
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 9:59am On Jul 08|
All these scanned copies should have your ID number as file name. e.g id number 356729 for each file attached. with a,b,c,d to separate each file. send all at once in one email.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by sonya4all(m): 10:36am On Jul 08|
please can next of kin of diseased disengaged staff also send all these documents
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 12:33pm On Jul 08|
@sonya4all: I don't know but will find out.
someone asked on the meaning of defined benefits scheme. This is the old pension scheme for civil/public servants whereby the worker doesn't make any contribution towards his or her retirement and is entitled to a pension on retirement till death if he or she has put in at least 10years in service. This scheme was filled with many problems especially funding shortfalls and hence in 2004 the federal government decided to change to the new contributory scheme using PFA's. Under this new scheme, the worker is expected to contribute a percentage of salary and the employer contributes also. From 2007, this scheme is what operates in nigeria.
However, there were still people who retired before 2007 and have been on defined benefits scheme. therefore, government decided to set up PTAD to take care of these category of retirees.
In the case of nitel, those who were disengaged in 2006 or who retired before 2006 and have put in 10years or more in service, are entitled to pension for life irrespective of the so called pension buy out then which BPE did. I understand some staff still continued with nitel up to 2012 or even up to 2015. If you recall, those set of people were asked to sign new contracts after 2006, so it is not viewed as continuing service. Also at that time, the workers who continued were now on the contributory pension scheme hence.
Let's use a scenario; A nitel staff worked up to 12 years in service in 2006 and was disengaged and paid off. That same staff was lucky to continue working with nitel under transcorp and others till 2012 or final sale of nitel in 2015. This staff received another payment in 2015 and also receives some small pension from his PFA monthly. Under PTAD rules, this same person is entitled to pension for the 12 years of service under the old Nitel defined benefits scheme. If this staff did maybe 8years of service by 2006, he is not entitled to any pension as at now even if he continued working after 2006 with nitel under trasncorp and others.
I hope this clarifies many issues on this contentious pension.
Because of the financial challenges of government, arrears of pension from 2012 is not in the table now but will be included subsequently. I said 2012 because those that retired in 2006/7 collected a pension buy out of five years which expired in 2012, hence technically, pension of five years since 2012 is being owed these category of workers.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 12:45pm On Jul 08|
@brossiye99, you really are a swell guy. I appreciate you quite a lot. Thanks for all your efforts. May God reward you accordingly.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Apus: 1:31pm On Jul 08|
God work u doing sir, God bless You.
Pls I heard hard copies of the afore listed documents will also be collected @Oshodi on Monday. Can u pls confirm this??
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by MilanKore(m): 2:24pm On Jul 08|
@brosiye99 ,, good work bro
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 2:50pm On Jul 08|
@apus: no need for the hardcopy. Just forward to that email and include your ID number and name in the email subject. also for all the scanned copies, use your ID number when naming them. There are some former nitel staff that are computer/ IT experts working since yesterday to collate this information and format it into the format that PTAD wants.
@sonya4all: As for deceased staff, I just found out that if they were pensionable at point of death, the next of kins will be paid. e.g. if the deceased staff exited in 2006 after at least 10years in service and died in 2015, the next of kins are entitled to arrears from 2012 to 2015 only and won't be included in the monthly pension. under defined benefits scheme, your pension stops immediately on death. however, that will be when arrears are being paid not for the current monthly pension which is hoped to be started after the upcoming verification.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Ancientdeb123: 3:05pm On Jul 08|
Pls broysiye wat of mtel staffs
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by Apus: 3:10pm On Jul 08|
God bless sir!
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 4:08pm On Jul 08|
@ancientdeb: It is the same for mtel staff too. So in fact we should say nitel/mtel staff. Nitel is being used as a general term to describe even the mtel staff. Mtel was created in 1996 with mostly nitel staff being seconded there.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by guardsman: 5:43pm On Jul 08|
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by eniwaye2: 6:06pm On Jul 08|
@brosiye, pls what exactly will d next of kin of d deceased one send to d email address.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by sonya4all(m): 9:02pm On Jul 08|
thank you so much @brosiye.... i really.
appreciate your effort in replying almost every question
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 11:18pm On Jul 08|
@guardsman, just the letter of LAST promotion.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by guardsman: 1:23pm On Jul 09|
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by brosiye99(m): 11:43pm On Jul 09|
Hello people. been on transit and been so busy. sorry for the late reply.
Yes blackkukluxklan is correct about letter of last promotion and not all.
@eniwaye: it should be all that is required should be sent to the email. During the actual verification, the next of kin will present him or herself. That means the next of kin will come with death certificate and other documents to show proof that he or she is next of kin. e.g if wife is NOK, she can also come with marriage certificate, passport of deceased, photographs of NOK with deceased, letter of administration etc. The next of kin must be prepared to show proof as next of kin. All official documents of deceased from nitel should be brought at time of verification including past payments, account statements etc.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by eniwaye2: 12:43pm On Jul 10|
@ brosiye hv done dat sir, and I hv informed d next of kin, pls when will they start the verification, the date.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by PenSniper: 3:48pm On Jul 10|
Please can anyone enlighten us on how to obtain letter of administration for families of deceased staff ? Thanks.
|Re: Nitel Pensioners Should Come In by laudate: 3:51pm On Jul 10|
PenSniper:Talk to a good lawyer. You would need to complete forms at the Probate Registry division of the Ministry of Justice or High Court, depending on which state of the federation you are located. In Lagos State, the probate registry is at GRA Ikeja, Lagos.
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