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The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:01pm On Sep 20, 2015
This is for any one who is sincere , who really want the guidance from God.
NOTE: IT DOESNT CALL FOR ARGUMENT

Praise be to Allaah.

Our beliefs concerning the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn
Maryam (Jesus the son of Mary – peace be
upon him) are those indicated by the Book of
Allaah and the Sunnah of our Messenger
Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah
be upon him).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We believe that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him)
was one of the slaves of Allaah, and one of
His noble Messengers. Allaah sent him to the
Children of Israel to call them to believe in
Allaah alone and worship Him alone.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]

~~~~~~ ~ ~~~~~
‘Eesa was not a god or the son of God as
the Christians claim.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Surely, they have disbelieved who say:
‘Allaah is the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)], son of
Maryam (Mary).’”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]
“And the Jews say: ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the son
of Allaah, and the Christians say: Messiah is
the son of Allaah. That is their saying with
their mouths, resembling the saying of those
who disbelieved aforetime. Allaah’s Curse be
on them, how they are deluded away from
the truth!”
[al-Tawbah 9:30]

The first words that ‘Eesa spoke when Allaah
caused him to speak when he was in the
cradle were (interpretation of the meaning):
“He [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘Verily, I am a slave
of Allaah, He has given me the Scripture and
made me a Prophet’”
[Maryam 19:30]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We believe that Allaah supported him with
miracles that proved he was speaking the
truth.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“(Remember) when Allaah will say (on the
Day of Resurrection). ‘O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son
of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to
you and to your mother when I supported
you with Rooh‑ul‑Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)] so
that you spoke to the people in the cradle
and in maturity; and when I taught you
writing, Al‑Hikmah (the power of
understanding), the Tawraat (Torah) and the
Injeel (Gospel); and when you made out of
the clay, a figure like that of a bird, by My
Permission, and you breathed into it, and it
became a bird by My Permission, and you
healed those born blind, and the lepers by
My Permission, and when you brought forth
the dead by My Permission; and when I
restrained the Children of Israel from you
(when they resolved to kill you) as you came
unto them with clear proofs, and the
disbelievers among them said: This is
nothing but evident magic’”
[al-Maa'idah 5:110]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We believe that ‘Eesa was born from the
Virgin Maryam with no father, and that is not
impossible for Allaah Who, when He wills a
thing, says “Be!” and it is.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]

“(Remember) when the angels said: ‘O
Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the
glad tidings of a Word [‘Be!’ — and he was!
i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)]
from Him, his name will be the Messiah
‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary),
held in honour in this world and in the
Hereafter, and will be one of those who are
near to Allaah.”
He will speak to the people, in the cradle
and in manhood, and he will be one of the
righteous.’
She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son
when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So
(it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills.
When He has decreed something, He says to
it only: “Be!” and it is’”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:45-47]
to be continued......[b]
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:06pm On Sep 20, 2015
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
We believe that he did not die and his
enemies the Jews did not kill him, rather
Allaah saved him from them and raised him
up to heaven alive.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And because of their (Jews) disbelief and
uttering against Maryam (Mary) a grave false
charge (that she has committed illegal sexual
intercourse);
And because of their saying (in boast), ‘We
killed Messiah ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam
(Mary), the Messenger of Allaah,’ — but they
killed him not, nor crucified him, but it
appeared so to them the resemblance of
‘Eesa (Jesus) was put over another man
(and they killed that man)], and those who
differ therein are full of doubts. They have
no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing
but conjecture. For surely; they killed him
not [i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam
(Mary)]:
But Allaah raised him [‘Eesa (Jesus)] up
(with his body and soul) unto Himself (and
he is in the heavens). And Allaah is Ever
All‑Powerful, All‑Wise”
[al-Nisa’ 4:156-158]

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

We believe that he told his followers of the
coming of our Prophet Muhammad (peace
and blessings of Allaah be upon him).
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 10:13pm On Sep 20, 2015
Is there any credible historical document other than the holy Quran which talked about the relationship between Jesus and Islam especially written by a neutral (non Muslim or Christian) author?
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:26pm On Sep 20, 2015
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4: We believe that he will come back down at
the end of time, and will disprove the claim
of his enemies the Jews that they killed him,
and will disprove the claim of the Christians
that he is God or the son of God, and he will
not accept anything from them but Islam. [/color]

Al-Bukhaari (2222) and Muslim (155)
narrated that Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be
pleased with him) said:
The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“By the One in Whose hand
is my soul, soon the son of Maryam will
descend among you [according to another
report: the Hour will not begin until the son
of Maryam descends among you] as a just
judge. He will break the cross, kill the pigs
and abolish the jizyah, and money will
become abundant until no one will accept
it.”

“Soon” means it will inevitably happen
quickly.
“will descend among you” means among this
ummah.
“A just judge” means that he will come down
and rule according to this sharee’ah (divine
law), and that this sharee’ah will remain and
not be abrogated, rather ‘Eesa will be one of
the rulers of this ummah.
“He will break the cross and kill the pigs”
means he will declare as false the religion of
the Christians by breaking the cross in a real
sense and proving false the Christians’
claims and veneration of the cross.
“and he will abolish the jizyah”:
al-Nawawi said:

The correct view concerning this is that he
will not accept it, and he will not accept
anything from the kaafirs disbelievers but
Islam. If any of them offer the jizyah that will
not make him stop fighting them. Rather he
will not accept anything but Islam or death.
This is the view of Imam Abu Sulaymaan al-
Khattaabi and other scholars (may Allaah
have mercy on them).
End quote.

“Money will become abundant” – the reason
for this abundance will be the descent of
blessings and the spread of goodness
because of justice and the absence of
oppression or wrongdoing. At that time the
earth will bring forth its treasures, and
desire to keep money will decrease because
they will know that that Hour is at hand.
Then he will die and the Muslims will offer
the funeral prayer for him and bury him.
Ahmad (9349) narrated from Abu Hurayrah
that the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the closest
of people to ‘Eesa ibn Maryam because there
was no Prophet between him and me…” Then
he mentioned his descent at the end of time.
Then he said: “And he will remain for as long
as Allaah wills he should remain, then he will
die and the Muslims will offer the funeral
prayer for him and bury him.” Classed as
saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-
Saheehah (2182).

Ahmad (9349) narrated from Abu Hurayrah
that the Prophet (peace and blessings of
Allaah be upon him) said: “I am the closest
of people to ‘Eesa ibn Maryam because there
was no Prophet between him and me…” Then
he mentioned his descent at the end of time.
Then he said: “And he will remain for as long
as Allaah wills he should remain, then he will
die and the Muslims will offer the funeral
prayer for him and bury him.” Classed as
saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-
Saheehah (2182).
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by Ruuhh(m): 10:32pm On Sep 20, 2015
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Is there any credible historical document other than the holy Quran which talked about the relationship between Jesus and Islam especially written by a neutral (non Muslim or Christian) author?

maybe if you state your premise, you'll be directed/guided to the document you seek.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by onetrack(m): 10:42pm On Sep 20, 2015
I'm an atheist so I don't really have anything to prove, but, according to the Quran itself, God sent the angel Gabriel (Djibril) to blow into Mary's vagina in order to get her pregnant with Jesus. So my question is this: who is the biological father of Jesus if even the Quran admits that he has no earthly father?

I personally think this was something Muhammad created in order to get Christians to accept him as a prophet, but without admitting that Jesus was the son of God.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:43pm On Sep 20, 2015
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:
Is there any credible historical document other than the holy Quran which talked about the relationship between Jesus and Islam especially written by a neutral (non Muslim or Christian) author?

The post actually is to clarify the misconceptions many people have that " Jesus came with a religion and Muhammad came with a different one"
its to tell people the relationship and status of Jesus to we Muslims.
But to ur question No history will denied the fact that Jesus lived during his time and also muhammad, and this two men were delivering some messages during their own time ( I.e A call to worship ONE GOD) that causes controversies among people of their time.
So if history get the fact both Jesus and Muhammad lived and both came with a MESSAGE. Then you are to make finding on what really there message was. And why Islam believes in both and some religion are making differences.

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Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:48pm On Sep 20, 2015
onetrack:
I'm an atheist so I don't really have anything to prove, but, according to the Quran itself, God sent the angel Gabriel (Djibril) to blow into Mary's vagina in order to get her pregnant with Jesus. So my question is this: who is the biological father of Jesus if even the Quran admits that he has no earthly father?

I personally think this was something Muhammad created in order to get Christians to accept him as a prophet, but without admitting that Jesus was the son of God.

Jesus doesn't have a father. It some people who said Joseph was his earthly father. IT IS A MIRACLE FROM GOD TO SHOW TO MANKIND THAT THIS MAN IS FROM GOD.
We believe that ‘Eesa was born from the
Virgin Maryam with no father, and that is not
impossible for Allaah Who, when He wills a
thing, says “Be!” and it is.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]
“(Remember) when the angels said: ‘O
Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the
glad tidings of a Word [‘Be!’ — and he was!
i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)]
from Him, his name will be the Messiah
‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary),
held in honour in this world and in the
Hereafter, and will be one of those who are
near to Allaah.”
He will speak to the people, in the cradle
and in manhood, and he will be one of the
righteous.’
She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son
when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So
(it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills.
When He has decreed something, He says to
it only: “Be!” and it is’”
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 10:49pm On Sep 20, 2015
Ruuhh:


maybe if you state your premise, you'll be directed/guided to the document you seek.
Well I feel Jesus was a Jew (by religion) and not a Christian or muslim.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by onetrack(m): 10:49pm On Sep 20, 2015
ibnmonsur:


Jesus doesn't have a father. It some people who said Joseph was his earthly father. IT IS A MIRACLE FROM GOD TO SHOW TO MANKIND THAT THIS MAN IS FROM GOD.
We believe that ‘Eesa was born from the
Virgin Maryam with no father, and that is not
impossible for Allaah Who, when He wills a
thing, says “Be!” and it is.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]
“(Remember) when the angels said: ‘O
Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allaah gives you the
glad tidings of a Word [‘Be!’ — and he was!
i.e. ‘Eesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)]
from Him, his name will be the Messiah
‘Eesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary),
held in honour in this world and in the
Hereafter, and will be one of those who are
near to Allaah.”
He will speak to the people, in the cradle
and in manhood, and he will be one of the
righteous.’
She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son
when no man has touched me.’ He said: ‘So
(it will be) for Allaah creates what He wills.
When He has decreed something, He says to
it only: “Be!” and it is’”

Which would seem to validate the Christians' claim that Jesus had a 'heavenly father', and not a biological one.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:54pm On Sep 20, 2015
5~~ We believe that he will disavow himself on the Day of Resurrection of the claims that he was a god. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “And (remember) when Allaah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): 'O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allaah?’ He will say: ‘Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner‑self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All‑Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen). Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allaah) did command me to say: Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things’” [al-Maa'idah 5:116-117] “ ‘Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allaah) did command me to say: Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things’” [al-Maa'idah 5:116-117] This is what the Muslims believe about the Messiah ‘Eesa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him). Al-Bukhaari (3435) and Muslim (28) narrated from ‘Ubaadah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever bears witness that there is no god but Allaah alone, with no partner or associate, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger, and that ‘Eesa is His slave and Messenger, a word which Allaah bestowed upon Maryam and a spirit created by Him, and that Paradise is real, and Hell is real, Allaah will admit him through whichever of the eight gates of Paradise he wishes.”
PLS THINK OH MANKIND We ask Allaah to make us steadfast in faith and to cause us to die as believers. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:55pm On Sep 20, 2015
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Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 10:57pm On Sep 20, 2015
onetrack:


Which would seem to validate the Christians' claim that Jesus had a 'heavenly father', and not a biological one.

NO
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“Verily, the likeness of ‘Eesa (Jesus) before
Allaah is the likeness of Adam. He created
him from dust, then (He) said to him: ‘Be!’ —
and he was”
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:59]
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by Medicis(m): 10:59pm On Sep 20, 2015
When will Muslims realise that their gnostic eesa is not THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.

Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by Demmzy15(m): 11:00pm On Sep 20, 2015
onetrack:
[s]I'm an atheist so I don't really have anything to prove, but, according to the Quran itself, God sent the angel Gabriel (Djibril) to blow into Mary's vagina in order to get her pregnant with Jesus. So my question is this: who is the biological father of Jesus if even the Quran admits that he has no earthly father?

I personally think this was something Muhammad created in order to get Christians to accept him as a prophet, but without admitting that Jesus was the son of God.[/s]
Guy na wa for you o, I'm beginning to think you're a Christian(imposter) who uses the Atheist "cover up" to say gibberish about Islam. So whenever a Muslim attacks you in return thinking you're a Christian, you'll quickly say "I'm an Atheist",therefore you think your immune to any attacks from Muslims. Nevertheless, I'm watching you closely, I don't think you're an atheist. Sha continu o!
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 11:03pm On Sep 20, 2015
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

Well I feel Jesus was a Jew (by religion) and not a Christian or muslim.

He was neither a Jews or christian he was MUSLIM.( someone who worshipped God alone )

He came to preach the oneness of God

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]
“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]


He neither was a CHRISTIAN NOR JEW
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by onetrack(m): 11:09pm On Sep 20, 2015
Demmzy15:

Guy na wa for you o, I'm beginning to think you're a Christian(imposter) who uses the Atheist "cover up" to say gibberish about Islam. So whenever a Muslim attacks you in return thinking you're a Christian, you'll quickly say "I'm an Atheist",therefore you think your immune to any attacks from Muslims. Nevertheless, I'm watching you closely, I don't think you're an atheist. Sha continu o!

And If I don't criticise Islam then I get accused of attacking only Christians. I can't win either way. However I affirm that I am atheist, and you can look through my posts for proof. Jesus was not a prophet nor the son of god. Period.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 11:11pm On Sep 20, 2015
Medicis:
When will Muslims realise that their gnostic eesa is not THE LION OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH.

why trying to play ignorance here
Issa is not an Arabic name, some people call him esus , Yoruba people call him Jesu while to the English its called Jesus. all still referring to the same individual.

leave religious book, read historical books. the story is still the Same. Whether the name is different is not the point but the MESSAGE IS THE CONCERN.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 11:15pm On Sep 20, 2015
ibnmonsur:


He was neither a Jews or christian he was MUSLIM.( someone who worshipped God alone )

He came to preach the oneness of God

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]
“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]


He neither was a CHRISTIAN NOR JEW
No. He was not a Muslim. He worshipped in the sanctuary and preached there too using Jewish scrolls. Jewish historian Josephus showed in his works about the life and times of Christ and showed he was a Jew all along. 'Christian' is a word that was coined by non Christians to refer to christ's followers and Islam came about 600 years after the death of Christ
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by minifuworld: 11:19pm On Sep 20, 2015
onetrack:
I'm an atheist so I don't really have anything to prove, but, according to the Quran itself, God sent the angel Gabriel (Djibril) to blow into Mary's vagina in order to get her pregnant with Jesus. So my question is this: who is the biological father of Jesus if even the Quran admits that he has no earthly father?

I personally think this was something Muhammad created in order to get Christians to accept him as a prophet, but without admitting that Jesus was the son of God.
firstly if we need to ask of biological father of jesus christ (peace be upon him) it means we will also ask of biological parents of adam. Secondly muhammed (saw) never disregards the teaching of jesus christ(peace be upon him) and even jesus doesn't no anything about the christianity. Almighty Allah do things the way He likes. Even in bible there is a man called Melchisedec who did not have genealogy hebrew 7 v 1-4. What can we say about that. God is great
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 11:25pm On Sep 20, 2015
onetrack:


And If I don't criticise Islam then I get accused of attacking only Christians. I can't win either way. However I affirm that I am atheist, and you can look through my posts for proof. Jesus was not a prophet nor the son of god. Period.


AN ATHEIST? PLS MY BROTHER I HAVE A SINCERE ADVICE FOR YOU

THINK UPON THE FOLLOWING VERSES

Surah At-tur, Verse 35:36: 43
أَمْ خُلِقُوا مِنْ غَيْرِ شَيْءٍ أَمْ هُمُ الْخَالِقُونَ

Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?

Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay,
they have no firm belief.

Or have they a god other than Allah. Exalted is
Allah far above the things they associate with Him!
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by minifuworld: 11:27pm On Sep 20, 2015
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

No. He was not a Muslim. He worshipped in the sanctuary and preached there too using Jewish scrolls. Jewish historian Josephus showed in his works about the life and times of Christ and showed he was a Jew all along. 'Christian' is a word that was coined by non Christians to refer to christ's followers and Islam came about 600 years after the death of Christ
what you don't understand is that islam is a religion that portray the way we can worship Almighty God
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by Ruuhh(m): 11:40pm On Sep 20, 2015
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

Well I feel Jesus was a Jew (by religion) and not a Christian or muslim.

your opinion though
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 11:41pm On Sep 20, 2015
ADAMUdaCOWBOY:

No. He was not a Muslim. He worshipped in the sanctuary and preached there too using Jewish scrolls. Jewish historian Josephus showed in his works about the life and times of Christ and showed he was a Jew all along. 'Christian' is a word that was coined by non Christians to refer to christ's followers and Islam came about 600 years after the death of Christ

Thank you, may Allaah guide you. The main misconception is that All this prophet came with the same thing they were neither call Jews during the time of moses nor were they called Christians during the time of jesus . it was after them that people start calling them names. if this people were neither called Christians born Jew , then the question should be what then were they then preaching.

They call to worship of God only (ISLAM)
“But the Messiah [‘Eesa (Jesus)] said: ‘O
Children of Israel! Worship Allaah, my Lord
and your Lord.’ Verily, whosoever sets up
partners (in worship) with Allaah, then
Allaah has forbidden Paradise to him, and
the Fire will be his abode. And for the
Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)
there are no helpers”
[al-Maa’idah 5:72]

All the messengers from Noah to Muhammad all are calling to the WORSHIP OF ONLY ONE GOD.

THERE US NO DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM BUT THEIR METHODS IS WHAT DIFFERS
as Jesus also says " he will tell the father to send another comforter that will talk about him and guide you to all truth.

We believe that ‘Eesa (peace be upon him)
was one of the slaves of Allaah, and one of
His noble Messengers. Allaah sent him to the
Children of Israel to call them to believe in
Allaah alone and worship Him alone.

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And (remember) when ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of
Maryam (Mary), said: ‘O Children of Israel! I
am the Messenger of Allaah unto you,
confirming the Tawraat [(Torah) which came]
before me, and giving glad tidings of a
Messenger to come after me, whose name
shall be Ahmad.’ But when he (Ahmad, i.e.
Muhammad) came to them with clear proofs,
they said: ‘This is plain magic’”
[al-Saff 61:6]

It was after this people that people start changing their messages.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by David0(m): 1:31am On Sep 21, 2015
The God I serve is not allah. How come Jesus performed such miracles but Mohammed never did, but dey r both prophets according to ur Quran.
Jesus is the son of God.
He's d only way, truth n life.
If u wanna make heaven, then stop whatever ur doing n follow Him.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by Demmzy15(m): 5:06am On Sep 21, 2015
onetrack:


And If I don't criticise Islam then I get accused of attacking only Christians. I can't win either way. However I affirm that I am atheist, and you can look through my posts for proof. Jesus was not a prophet nor the son of god. Period.
OK my eyes are on you sha, stop the misinformation.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by onetrack(m): 7:35am On Sep 21, 2015
ibnmonsur:



AN ATHEIST? PLS MY BROTHER I HAVE A SINCERE ADVICE FOR YOU

THINK UPON THE FOLLOWING VERSES

Surah At-tur, Verse 35:36: 43
أَمْ خُلِقُوا مِنْ غَيْرِ شَيْءٍ أَمْ هُمُ الْخَالِقُونَ

Were they created of nothing, or were they themselves the creators?

Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay,
they have no firm belief.

Or have they a god other than Allah. Exalted is
Allah far above the things they associate with Him!

Who created your god? Did he create himself?
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by onetrack(m): 7:42am On Sep 21, 2015
Demmzy15:

OK my eyes are on you sha, stop the misinformation.

Good. Maybe you will learn something! smiley
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 9:11am On Sep 21, 2015
David0:
The God I serve is not allah. How come Jesus performed such miracles but Mohammed never did, but dey r both prophets according to ur Quran.
Jesus is the son of God.
He's d only way, truth n life.
If u wanna make heaven, then stop whatever ur doing n follow Him.

Every prophet of God brought miracles . they only performed this miracle when their people denied them and ask them to bring evidence that they are from Allaah.
As Muslim, we know and believes in many miracles of Jesus not known to you Christians. Do you know that when Jesus was in cradle he spoke to defend his mother? and that he made bird living bird from clay?

We believe that Allaah supported him with
miracles that proved he was speaking the
truth.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“(Remember) when Allaah will say (on the
Day of Resurrection). ‘O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son
of Maryam (Mary)! Remember My Favour to
you and to your mother when I supported
you with Rooh‑ul‑Qudus [Jibreel (Gabriel)] so
that you spoke to the people in the cradle
and in maturity; and when I taught you
writing, Al‑Hikmah (the power of
understanding), the Tawraat (Torah) and the
Injeel (Gospel); and when you made out of
the clay, a figure like that of a bird, by My
Permission, and you breathed into it, and it
became a bird by My Permission, and you
healed those born blind, and the lepers by
My Permission, and when you brought forth
the dead by My Permission; and when I
restrained the Children of Israel from you
(when they resolved to kill you) as you came
unto them with clear proofs, and the
disbelievers among them said: This is
nothing but evident magic’”

So Jesus performed miracles as also the prophets before him. miracle is not something new in matters with the prophet.

Muhammad also cane with his when his people denied him.
I will only inform of some of it and I will implore you to make mor finding.


just go to Wikipedia and see yourself. even historian record his miracles .. splitting of the moon.etc

And the greatest of all the miracles is Quran.
None of the miracles of all other prophet still present till date. But the miracle of the QUR'AN ( word s of God) STILL PRESENT TILL THE END TIME.


TRY READING IT WITH A SINCERE HEARTH THEN YOU WILL THE MIRACLE OF YOUR LORD SPEAKING TO YOU
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ibnmonsur: 9:29am On Sep 21, 2015
onetrack:


Who created your god? Did he create himself?
Thanks, may Allaah guide you, if you understand the fact that your creation and the creation of everything in the heavens and the earth must be by someone. It cant be by nothing and you didn't create uourself nor all this things. Then it must be by someone a SUPERNATURAL BEING WHO IS THE GOD ALLAH
THE WHO CREATED ALL THINGS BUT NOT CREATED

HE SAYS

surah iklas
Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
Allah , the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."


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Go
Chapter (24) sūrat l-nūr (The Light)
Sahih International : Allah has created
every [living] creature from water. And of
them are those that move on their bellies,
and of them are those that walk on two
legs, and of them are those that walk on
four. Allah creates what He wills. Indeed,
Allah is over all things competent.

"Allah created
all things, and
he is the agent,
upon which, all
things depend."
— [ Al-Qur'an
39:62]


Praise be to Allaah.
This question which the non Muslims have
asked you is inherently false and self-
contradictory. If we were to say – for the
sake of argument – that someone created
Allaah, then they would ask you, Who
created the creator of the Creator? Then,
who created the creator of the creator of the
creator?! And so on, ad infinitum. This is
irrational and impossible.
All of creation goes back to the Creator Who
created all things. No one created Him; He
created everything other than Himself. This
is what makes sense and is logical. This
Creator is Allaah, may He be glorified and
exalted.
Re: The Muslims’ Beliefs Concerning The Messiah ‘eesa Ibn Maryam by ADAMUdaCOWBOY: 11:34am On Sep 21, 2015
Ruuhh:


your opinion though
And my opinion is backed by historical data written by non christians, what about yours?

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