walemoney007:
why is alhaji shekarau fighting for allah



Why did muhammed fvcked aisha a 9years old girl?

Emusan:



Firstly, the phrase ORIGINAL SIN never appeared in the Holy Scripture but it's a theological word to describe the consequence of what man is passing through today just because of what Adam lost which is HIS UNCORRUPTED NATURE.

Secondly, since we're in the body of Adam when Adam's nature got polluted that's prone to sin and death, that's why MAN DIED TODAY AND CAN SIN.

Thirdly, even your brother agreed that had it been that Adam didn't sin he wouldn't have experienced DEATH and continue to live in Paradise. Now man KNOWS DEATH because Adam sinned.

Lastly, when Adam sinned God provided a way out for man which I may elaborate more as we go on.

walemoney007:
are you telling me that alfa shekarau is not allah prophet?

there are many allah followers online , go and ask them if shekrau is Allah's prophet


And let me ask you too : where did King David go when he died ?

MizJanet:


there are many allah followers online , go and ask them if shekrau is Allah's prophet


And let me ask you too : where did King David go when he died ?

Repentance96:
This contains the crux of our difference. Yes, the term "original sin" means different things to different people. If it means the forgiven sin of Adam that was predestined as a pretext to have him equal to Iblis,then yes. We all are on earth because God wants to test each and one of us, and make us our own witness to our works. Adam rose above Iblis, because he repented and thus was forgiven for his sin. [size=14pt]His sin was not passed down, but the consequences were...[/size] So we the children of Adam must passed through earth and hell to Paradise. If God did not forgive Adam, then he would have destroyed Adam - but that would make it all a wasted effort. So God gave the chance for us all to prove to ourselves that we deserve everlasting life.

But how?

By accepting God and His guidance when it comes and being in a state of submission to God. We can fall in sin, but God would purify us and forgive us. God is Most Merciful

This doctrine is more universal in the sense that our salvation does not hang in belief of any historical event like a crucifiction. Earth was corrupted with death and bloodshed even before Adam was created and God had to purify earth. This doctrine of salvation has remained the same throughout time, and it is not intended unfair to those who have not heard about it. God could have many earths with many intelligent creations all over the universe and not merely one earth (needing one lamb of sacrifice).

It's true that we have inherited our DNA from our parents but where have we got our souls/spirit?

"O mankind! Be conscious of your Lord, who has created you from one soul (Adam), and out of it created its mate (Eve), and out of the two spread many men and women. And remain conscious of God, in whose name you demand [your rights] from one another, and of these ties of kinship. Verily, God is ever watchful over you!" (Quran 4:1)

Has this being tainted? No.

"When your Lord drew forth from the loins of the children of Adam their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves: ‘Am I not your Lord?’. They said, ‘Yes, we do testify.’ This lest you should say on the Day of Judgement: ‘We were not aware of this.’ "
(Al A’raaf :272)

There's a hadith to make this explicitly clear:


The Prophet (PBUH) reported that Allah said, "I created my servants in the right religion but devils made them go astray". The Prophet (PBUH) also said, "Each child is born in a state of "Fitrah", then his parents make him a Jew, Christian or a Zoroastrian, the way an animal gives birth to a normal offspring. Have you noticed any that were born mutilated?"
(Bukhari and Muslim).

Our natures are all pure and in fact comes from that of God, like an image.

"Then He fashioned him and breathed into him from His ruh; and He gave you (the faculties) of hearing, sight, and feeling. Little thanks you give." (As-Sajdah 32:9)

"When I have fashioned him and breathed into him from My ruh" (Al-Hijr 15:29)

MizJanet:



Point 1 : the original sin is so baseless that it did not prevent David from making heaven , right ? You are actually mocking youselfs.

Point 2 : David achieve eternal life in heaven without Jesus dying for his sin ? Ooops ! That automatically render Jesus sacrifice useless .

Churchman , see how Your answer mock the death of jesus again .

bible said : ' because of one man , ALL have sinned' - Romans 5:12 , it further describes it has been " SOLD under sin " says Roman 7:14 .

To release man from the grip of sin , bible further said : God " sent his son to be the atoning sacrifice for our sins" - 1joh 4:10

Yet David made heaven without the sacrifice made for his sin , right ?

Emusan:



The anti-type sacrificial lamb started the very day Adam's sinned by God Himself in the Garden of Eden.
For your information, The Word of God (which came to earth as the true type and was given the name Jesus Christ) has been in action from ages even before David was born. that's why Jesus is THE way..., and THE life no ONE comes to the Father without passing through Him.

Wow ! Wow ! Wow ! True type and anti - type theories . And David had made heaven before the TRUE type gave his life as a sacrifice to take away the sin of mankind ? Reference : john 1:29 .

"For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Heb 10:14

Kindly check what you quote , " for by one offering " but Before that offering was made for sins , David made heaven ,aM i ryt ?

Emusan:
I'll use the stone of this surah to kill two birds but I want the readers to have the following in mind as s/he reads through this article.
1) That Quran itself testifies that before Adam and Eve sinned they were living in PARADISE not on Earth.
2) That this conversation between Allah and Satan (Iblis) took place BEFORE Adam and Eve eventually SINNED.

Now in Allah’s command to the angels to bow down to Adam shortly after Adam was created, and what happened after that, is very interested to consider. This story was repeated at least seven times in the Qu’ran which can be found in Surah 2, 7, 15, 17, 18, 20, and 38.

But let me quote only Surah 15:35-37, 39.

35 "And the curse shall be on thee till the Day of Judgment."
36 (Iblis) said: "O my Lord! Give me then respite till the Day the (dead) are raised."
37 (Allah) said: "Respite is granted thee…
39 “…I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong Y. Ali

Satan seems to know the unseen!
Here we see Allah talking about "The Day of Judgement," (When Adam and Eve were just created without sin or ever sinned) though one can say well it’s because Allah is All-knowing but the next statement by Satan is alarming, why? We see Satan talking about “The Day the (DEAD) are raised”, really!
How come Satan knows that there will be RESURRECTION of the dead when DEATH has not even occurred nor the event that leads to death had happened? In fact Satan reinforced his statement by saying “I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to THEM ON EARTH”. ON EARTH!!! How come? Does Satan actually know that Adam and Eve will sin and cast out from PARADISE to EARTH? Whereas Allah said this angels don't know what he knows.

Satan was led astray by Allah
In the same Surah I quoted above verse 39 reads “(Iblis) said: ‘O my Lord! Because Thou hast put me in the wrong,…’” Y. Ali

We see here that Allah led Satan astray.
Well if this translation seems not be cleared enough let’s see how other translations rendered this particular statement.

“He said: My Lord! Because Thou hast made life evil to me,...” M. Habib Shakir
“He said: My Lord! Because Thou hast sent me astray,…” M. Pickthall
“Iblis (Satan)] said: "O my Lord! Because you misled me,…” Mohsin Khan.
“He said 'O my Lord, I swear of that. You led me astray,…” Ahadees

The question one can ask is, how did Allah mislead Satan? Well Quran itself seems to have the answer when it says ONLY ALLAH should be bowing to NO other being, so Satan actually obeying the word of Allah but unfortunately Satan has to get the reward for his obedient by being cast out from paradise.

(Satan be like, since we’re being told that NO Being should be bowing to except Allah, this one now to bow for Adam again might be a test from Allah to know who will fall victim let me quickly obey the first instruction.)

MizJanet:



Wow ! Wow ! Wow ! True type and anti - type theories . And David had made heaven before the TRUE type gave his life as a sacrifice to take away the sin of mankind ? Reference : john 1:29 .





Kindly check what you quote , " for by one offering " but Before that offering was made for sins , David made heaven ,aM i ryt ?