bashbabe2:



Then get to work or what are you waiting. You must be a comedian

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riddicle it huh? is that the approach? and there i was, thinking you would be more like an "ignore it and it will go away" person!

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the religion of peace exposed

If Jesus was supposedly never crucified, or never died, or was never buried, we have to ask: WHO WAS THE CRUCIFIED ONE? The Crucifixion and the "chain-of-custody" principle well help us identify.
I received a question about the Crucifixion of Jesus, asking to prove: (1) that anyone saw Jesus dead, and
(2) that anyone removed the dead body of Jesus from the cross, and
(3) that anyone put His dead body in a tomb. These three questions involve the "chain-of- custody" of Jesus and his body. They seem to be best broken down into the following five parts:
(A) Proof of Jesus being arrested, tortured, and hung on cross.
(B) Proof of Jesus remaining on the cross till death.
(C) Proof of the death of Jesus on the cross.
(D) Proof of the removal of the same dead body from the cross.
(E) Proof of the placement of that same dead body in a tomb. This study is from the documentation provided in the Bible by Matthew Levi, the son of Alphaeus, a servant of God and a companion and disciple of Jesus .
The Roman government , the Jewish rulers and the disciples of Jesus were confirming witnesses of these events. If the Jewish people were deceived into thinking that they had killed Jesus, that would have still made it necessary also to deceive the Roman government and the very followers of Jesus; even his mother and closest friends and disciples. All of these would have had to believe a complete falsehood.
(A) Proof of Jesus being arrested, tortured, and hung on the cross The "chain-of-custody" begins with the identification of Jesus by all twelve disciples (apostles) during the eating of the Last Supper at the Feast of Unleavened Bread on the night before the start of the full Passover commemoration. Afterwards, Judas left them (Mt 26:17-20).
Then the group proceeded under a full moon with plenty of moonlight (the 14th day of the lunar month of Nisan) (Exodus 12:18) from the place of the Last Supper going east across the Brook Kidron and to the Garden of Gethsemane at the Mount of Olives (Mt 26:30 & 36).
Judas Iscariot came and identified Jesus for the soldiers. Jesus also identified himself. Jesus healed the ear of the servant of the High Priest (Mt 26:47-56). Later Judas confirmed that he had betrayed an innocent man (Mt 27:3-. Also, the temple chief priests confirmed that the money given by them to Judas by them was "blood money" (Mt 27:6). Jesus went in the custody of the temple soldiers , to the house of Caiaphas. Many leaders were present including the whole great Sanhedrin (the 70 ruling men in the Council). Jesus confirmed that he is the Messiah and the Son of the God. Because of this statement of his, they said Jesus had committed blasphemy and was deserving of death (Mt 26:57-68).
Jesus was transferred into the Roman custody of Governor Pontius Pilate in the morning (Mt 27:1-2). The wife of Pilate stated that she had a dream in the previous night hours that Pilate should have nothing to do with that "righteous man" (Mt 27:19).
The Roman governor, Pilate, delivered Jesus into the custody of his own professional Roman soldiers (Mt 27:26). The Roman soldiers beat Jesus and put a crown of thorns on his head. This distinctively marked his body and the top of his head (Mt 27:27-30). These wounds, caused by the Roman soldiers, would help identify the body of Jesus all the way to the cross, on the cross, and in post-resurrection appearances.
Jesus remained in the custody of Roman soldiers and was taken to the place of crucifixion (Mt 27:31-33). Matthew, who was one of the twelve disciples, records that the Roman soldiers crucified Jesus, which means putting a live person on a cross (Mt 27:35).
(B) Proof of Jesus remaining on the cross till death Jesus remained on the cross under guard by the Roman centurion (Mt 27:54) and soldiers . Some sat down to watch him die (Mt 27:36-37). While hanging on the cross he was identified by:
1. The Roman centurion (officer over about 100 men) (Mt 27:54).
2. The Roman soldiers watching and who knew the wounds he had previously suffered (Mt 27:35-36).
3. The passersby who had heard him preach (Mt 27:39-40).
4. The chief priests (Mt 27:41).
5. The scribes (Mt 27:41).
6. The elders (Mt 27:41).
7. The two robbers who were also being executed (Mt 27:44).
8. The many women who had seen Jesus before (Mt 27:55-56).
9. John, His disciple (John 19:26)
10. Mary, his mother (John 19:26).
(C) Proof of the death of Jesus on the cross Matthew, a disciple, records that Jesus gave up his spirit, died (Mt 27:50). The Roman centurion (Mt 27:54) who was in charge of keeping guard over Jesus, refers to Jesus' life in the past tense after Jesus had died (Mt 27:54). The dead body of Jesus was later ordered by the Roman governor to be given to Joseph of Arimathea who wrapped it in a clean linen cloth and who laid the body of Jesus in his own tomb (Mt 27:59-60). The chief priests and Pharisees confirmed to the Roman governor that Jesus was dead (Mt 27:63-64). Also the chief priests and Pharisees confirmed to the Roman governor that Jesus' body was actually in a grave (Mt 27:64). Pilate, the Roman governor appointed a guard for the grave of Jesus’ dead body (Mt 27:65-66). An angel of the Lord from Heaven confirmed that Jesus had been crucified, and had been dead (Mt 28:2-7). The women to whom this message was given told it to Matthew and the other disciples (Mt 28:7-10).
(D) Proof of the removal of the same dead body of Jesus from the cross The Roman soldiers had custody of the dead body of Jesus (Mt 27:54).
Notice that not just anyone could remove the dead body Jesus, the executed prisoner, from the custody of the Romans. Permission had to be obtained from the proper authority who had ordered the execution. In this case, it was the Roman governor, Pilate (Mt 27:58). A wealthy Jewish man, Joseph of Arimathea,
who was a disciple and who would recognize Jesus, asked the Roman governor, Pilate, that he, Joseph, be allowed to take custody the dead body of Jesus for the purpose of burial (Mt 27:57-58). More than 700 years before the time of Jesus, the holy Prophet Isaiah, son of Amoz, wrote about this death and the burial in the grave of a rich man (Isaiah 53:9). At the time of Jesus, the holy Prophet John, the Baptizer, son of the Priest Zacharias, told that Jesus was the sacrificial "Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world." (John 1:29 and Isaiah 53).
Pilate gave the order that the dead body of Jesus be given to Joseph (Mt 27:58). Joseph of Arimathea took away the dead body of Jesus which had been ordered to be given to him by the governor, Pilate, and which was identified to him as such by the soldiers who guarded the body and also from his own identification of Jesus, because he was a disciple of Jesus (Mt 27:57 & 59). The chief priests, elders and the soldiers confirmed that the body in the tomb was that of Jesus. It was the same dead body of Jesus that the governor, Pilate, had ordered the soldiers to guard (Mt 28:11-15).
(E) Proof of the placement of that same dead body of Jesus in a tomb Pilate gave the order that the body be given to Joseph (Mt 27:58). There is no evidence that any other body was given to Joseph. Joseph took custody of Jesus’ dead body which had been ordered to be given to him by the governor Pilate and which was identified to him as such by the soldiers who guarded the dead body and which Joseph must have been able to identify himself, because he was a disciple of Jesus (Mt 27:59).
Joseph kept custody of the body of Jesus and wrapped the body of Jesus in a clean linen cloth for burial (Mt 27:59). Joseph laid the wrapped dead body of Jesus in his own new tomb (Mt 27:60). Mary Magdalene and the other Mary who had been at the crucifixion came to that very grave (Mt 27:56 and 28:1).
An angel of the Lord from Heaven confirmed that Jesus had been dead and buried at that very grave. The angel said, "Do not be afraid; for I know that you are looking for Jesus who has been crucified. He is not here, for He has risen, just as He said. Come, see the place where He was laying. And go quickly and tell His disciples that He has risen from the dead ..." (Mt 28:5-7)
The body of Jesus was wounded and marked by the beating and the crown of thorns before the crucifixion and it was further marked by the wounds in the hands, the feet and the side while on the cross. Identifiable marks in his hands and side, made by the Roman soldiers, were still visible on Jesus’ body after his resurrection. He appeared to the apostles "... to whom He also presented Himself alive, after His suffering, by many convincing proofs, being seen by them during forty days, and speaking of the things concerning the Kingdom of God." (Acts 1:3) The details of the miracles, teachings and prophecies made by Jesus are recorded in the Injil, the first four historical Gospels ("Good News" section) of the New Testament of the Holy Bible which are advisable to be diligently studied for great spiritual benefit.
Thus, it becomes clear that the "chain-of- custody" principle affirms the historical fact of Jesus’ crucifixion. Of course, what is most important in all of this is why it was necessary that Jesus the Messiah be crucified. A study of the Scriptures of the Prophets (the Bible) clearly reveals that the Messiah’s death and resurrection was, from the beginning, the center-piece of God’s plan of salvation. Listen to what Jesus told His disciples on the day He arose from the grave ... "Then [Jesus] said to them, ‘These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.’ And He opened their understanding, that they might comprehend the Scriptures. Then He said to them, ‘Thus it is written, and thus it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead the third day, and that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. And you are witnesses of these things!’" (Luke 24:44-48)

The root cause of islamic terrorism is deeply rooted in the quoran and the sahih hadiths which depicts the cursed life of mohamed. Muslims have been deluded to believe that mohamed is "the best of man kind" and they are encouraged to live their lives the way mohamed lived his to be good muslims. Now the problem is that mohamed was a terrorist, murderer, high way robber, rapist, paedophile, philanderer amongst several other terrible things. A lot of terrorist feel justified in what they are doing cause it's clear to them that they are following the foot steps of mohamed as instructed to them in the quoran.

Bearing the above in mind I believe the best way to stop islamic terrorism is to continually expose the evils of Islam and also expose mohamed for the false prophet he is to discredit him. There should be a global campaign against Islam and muslims should be taught why mohamed is a fraud and encouraged to renounce islam. When strong doubts are established against the credibility of mohamed and islam which he invented, we will have fewer people willing to kill or be killed for the cause of Islam.

Annunaki:
The root cause orf islamic terrorism is deeply rooterd in the quoran and rthe zsahih hadiths which depicts the curzsed lirfe orf mohamed. Muslims have been deluded to believe that mohamed is "the best of man kind" and they are encouraged to live their lives the way mohamed lived his to be good muslims. Now the problem is that mohamed was a terrorist, murderer, high way robber, rapist, paedophile, philanderer amongst several other terrible things. A lot of terrorist feel justified in what they are doing cause it's clear to them that they are following the foot steps of mohamed as instructed to them in the quoran.

Bearing the above in mind I believe the best way to stop islamic terrorism is to continually expose the evils of Islam and also expose mohamed for the false prophet he is to discredit him. There should be a global campaign against Islam and muslims should be taught why mohamed is a fraud and encouraged to renounce islam. When strong doubts are established against the credibility of mohamed and islam which he invented, we will have fewer people willing to kill or be killed for the cause of Islam.

that is what am emphasising on

foxe:
If Jesus was supposedly never crucified, or
never died, or was never buried, we have to
ask:
WHO WAS THE CRUCIFIED ONE?
The Crucifixion and the "chain-of-custody"
principle well help us identify.

I received a question about the Crucifixion
of Jesus, asking to prove:
(1) that anyone saw Jesus dead, and

(2) that anyone removed the dead body of Jesus
from the cross, and

(3) that anyone put His dead body in a tomb.
These three questions involve the "chain-of-
custody" of Jesus and his body. They seem
to be best broken down into the following five
parts:

(A) Proof of Jesus being arrested, tortured, and
hung on cross.

(B) Proof of Jesus remaining on the cross till
death.

(C) Proof of the death of Jesus on the cross.

(D) Proof of the removal of the same dead body
from the cross.

(E) Proof of the placement of that same dead
body in a tomb.
This study is from the documentation
provided in the Bible by Matthew Levi, the
son of Alphaeus, a servant of God and a
companion and disciple of Jesus .

The Roman government , the Jewish rulers
and the disciples of Jesus were confirming
witnesses of these events. If the Jewish
people were deceived into thinking that they
had killed Jesus, that would have still made
it necessary also to deceive the Roman
government and the very followers of Jesus;
even his mother and closest friends and
disciples. All of these would have had to
believe a complete falsehood.

(A) Proof of Jesus being arrested,
tortured, and hung on the cross
The "chain-of-custody" begins with the
identification of Jesus by all twelve disciples
(apostles) during the eating of the Last
Supper at the Feast of Unleavened Bread on
the night before the start of the full Passover
commemoration. Afterwards, Judas left them
(Mt 26:17-20).

Then the group proceeded under a full moon
with plenty of moonlight (the 14th day of the
lunar month of Nisan) (Exodus 12:18) from
the place of the Last Supper going east
across the Brook Kidron and to the Garden of
Gethsemane at the Mount of Olives (Mt
26:30 & 36).

Judas Iscariot came and identified Jesus for
the soldiers. Jesus also identified himself.
Jesus healed the ear of the servant of the
High Priest (Mt 26:47-56). Later Judas
confirmed that he had betrayed an innocent
man (Mt 27:3-. Also, the temple chief
priests confirmed that the money given by
them to Judas by them was "blood
money" (Mt 27:6).
Jesus went in the custody of the temple
soldiers , to the house of Caiaphas. Many
leaders were present including the whole
great Sanhedrin (the 70 ruling men in the
Council). Jesus confirmed that he is the
Messiah and the Son of the God. Because of
this statement of his, they said Jesus had
committed blasphemy and was deserving of
death (Mt 26:57-68).

Jesus was transferred into the Roman
custody of Governor Pontius Pilate in the
morning (Mt 27:1-2).
The wife of Pilate stated that she had a
dream in the previous night hours that Pilate
should have nothing to do with that
"righteous man" (Mt 27:19).

The Roman governor, Pilate, delivered Jesus
into the custody of his own professional
Roman soldiers (Mt 27:26).
The Roman soldiers beat Jesus and put a
crown of thorns on his head. This
distinctively marked his body and the top of
his head (Mt 27:27-30). These wounds,
caused by the Roman soldiers, would help
identify the body of Jesus all the way to the
cross, on the cross, and in post-resurrection
appearances.

Jesus remained in the custody of Roman
soldiers and was taken to the place of
crucifixion (Mt 27:31-33).
Matthew, who was one of the twelve
disciples, records that the Roman soldiers
crucified Jesus, which means putting a live
person on a cross (Mt 27:35).

(B) Proof of Jesus remaining on the cross
till death
Jesus remained on the cross under guard by
the Roman centurion (Mt 27:54) and
soldiers . Some sat down to watch him die
(Mt 27:36-37).
While hanging on the cross he was identified
by:

1. The Roman centurion (officer over about 100
men) (Mt 27:54).

2. The Roman soldiers watching and who knew
the wounds he had previously suffered (Mt
27:35-36).

3. The passersby who had heard him preach
(Mt 27:39-40).

4. The chief priests (Mt 27:41).

5. The scribes (Mt 27:41).

6. The elders (Mt 27:41).

7. The two robbers who were also being
executed (Mt 27:44).

8. The many women who had seen Jesus before
(Mt 27:55-56).

9. John, His disciple (John 19:26)

10. Mary, his mother (John 19:26).

(C) Proof of the death of Jesus on the
cross
Matthew, a disciple, records that Jesus gave
up his spirit, died (Mt 27:50).
The Roman centurion (Mt 27:54) who was in
charge of keeping guard over Jesus, refers to
Jesus' life in the past tense after Jesus had
died (Mt 27:54).
The dead body of Jesus was later ordered by
the Roman governor to be given to Joseph of
Arimathea who wrapped it in a clean linen
cloth and who laid the body of Jesus in his
own tomb (Mt 27:59-60).
The chief priests and Pharisees confirmed to
the Roman governor that Jesus was dead (Mt
27:63-64).
Also the chief priests and Pharisees
confirmed to the Roman governor that Jesus'
body was actually in a grave (Mt 27:64).
Pilate, the Roman governor appointed a guard
for the grave of Jesus’ dead body (Mt
27:65-66).
An angel of the Lord from Heaven confirmed
that Jesus had been crucified, and had been
dead (Mt 28:2-7). The women to whom this
message was given told it to Matthew and
the other disciples (Mt 28:7-10).

(D) Proof of the removal of the same dead
body of Jesus from the cross
The Roman soldiers had custody of the dead
body of Jesus (Mt 27:54).

Notice that not just anyone could remove the
dead body Jesus, the executed prisoner, from
the custody of the Romans. Permission had
to be obtained from the proper authority who
had ordered the execution. In this case, it
was the Roman governor, Pilate (Mt 27:58).
A wealthy Jewish man, Joseph of Arimathea,

who was a disciple and who would recognize
Jesus, asked the Roman governor, Pilate, that
he, Joseph, be allowed to take custody the
dead body of Jesus for the purpose of burial
(Mt 27:57-58).
More than 700 years before
the time of Jesus, the holy Prophet Isaiah,
son of Amoz, wrote about this death and the
burial in the grave of a rich man (Isaiah
53:9).
At the time of Jesus, the holy Prophet
John, the Baptizer, son of the Priest
Zacharias, told that Jesus was the sacrificial
"Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the
world." (John 1:29 and Isaiah 53).

Pilate gave the order that the dead body of
Jesus be given to Joseph (Mt 27:58).
Joseph of Arimathea took away the dead
body of Jesus which had been ordered to be
given to him by the governor, Pilate, and
which was identified to him as such by the
soldiers who guarded the body and also from
his own identification of Jesus, because he
was a disciple of Jesus (Mt 27:57 & 59).
The chief priests, elders and the soldiers
confirmed that the body in the tomb was
that of Jesus. It was the same dead body of
Jesus that the governor, Pilate, had ordered
the soldiers to guard (Mt 28:11-15).

(E) Proof of the placement of that same
dead body of Jesus in a tomb
Pilate gave the order that the body be given
to Joseph (Mt 27:58). There is no evidence
that any other body was given to Joseph.
Joseph took custody of Jesus’ dead body
which had been ordered to be given to him
by the governor Pilate and which was
identified to him as such by the soldiers who
guarded the dead body and which Joseph
must have been able to identify himself,
because he was a disciple of Jesus (Mt
27:59).

Joseph kept custody of the body of Jesus
and wrapped the body of Jesus in a clean
linen cloth for burial (Mt 27:59).
Joseph laid the wrapped dead body of Jesus
in his own new tomb (Mt 27:60).
Mary Magdalene and the other Mary who had
been at the crucifixion came to that very
grave (Mt 27:56 and 28:1).

An angel of the Lord from Heaven confirmed
that Jesus had been dead and buried at that
very grave. The angel said, "Do not be afraid;
for I know that you are looking for Jesus who
has been crucified. He is not here, for He has
risen, just as He said. Come, see the place
where He was laying. And go quickly and tell
His disciples that He has risen from the dead
..." (Mt 28:5-7)

The body of Jesus was wounded and marked
by the beating and the crown of thorns before
the crucifixion and it was further marked by
the wounds in the hands, the feet and the
side while on the cross. Identifiable marks in
his hands and side, made by the Roman
soldiers, were still visible on Jesus’ body
after his resurrection.
He appeared to the apostles "... to whom He
also presented Himself alive, after His
suffering, by many convincing proofs, being
seen by them during forty days, and speaking
of the things concerning the Kingdom of
God." (Acts 1:3) The details of the miracles,
teachings and prophecies made by Jesus are
recorded in the Injil, the first four historical
Gospels ("Good News" section) of the New
Testament of the Holy Bible which are
advisable to be diligently studied for great
spiritual benefit.

Thus, it becomes clear that the "chain-of-
custody" principle affirms the historical fact
of Jesus’ crucifixion. Of course, what is most
important in all of this is why it was
necessary that Jesus the Messiah be
crucified. A study of the Scriptures of the
Prophets (the Bible) clearly reveals that the
Messiah’s death and resurrection was, from
the beginning, the center-piece of God’s plan
of salvation. Listen to what Jesus told His
disciples on the day He arose from the grave
...
"Then [Jesus] said to them, ‘These are the
words which I spoke to you while I was still
with you, that all things must be fulfilled
which were written in the Law of Moses and
the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.’
And He opened their understanding, that they
might comprehend the Scriptures. Then He
said to them, ‘Thus it is written, and thus it
was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to
rise from the dead the third day, and that
repentance and remission of sins should be
preached in His name to all nations,
beginning at Jerusalem. And you are
witnesses of these things!’" (Luke 24:44-48)

Jesus Christ was neither killed nor was he crucified, as alleged by the Christians and the Jews, but that he was alive! because:

1. Jesus was reluctant to die! He had worked out a strategy of defence to repel the Jews. Because he wanted to remain alive!

2. He beseeched God for help. With strong crying and tears for God Almighty to keep him alive!

3. God ‘heard’ his prayers which means that God accepted his prayers to keep him alive!

4. An angel of god came to strengthen him: In the hope and belief that God will save him alive!

5. Pilate finds Jesus not guilty! Good reason to keep Jesus alive!

6. Pilates wife shown a dream in which she was told that - ‘No harm should come to this just man.’ In other words that he should be saved alive!

7. Supposed to be on the cross for only three hours. According to the system in vogue, no man could die by crucifixion in so short a time which means that even if he was fastened to the cross - he was alive!

8. The other two - his ‘crossmates’ on their respective crosses were alive. So Jesus too, for the same period of time must be alive!

9. Encyclopedia biblica under article ‘cross’ - column 960 says: ‘When the spear was thrust - Jesus was alive!

10. ‘Forthwith’ came there out blood and water: ‘Forthwith’ means straightaway, immediately which was a sure sign that Jesus was alive!

11. Legs not broken - as a fulfilment of prophecy. ‘Legs’ can be of any use only if Jesus was alive!

12.Thunderstorm, earthquake, and darkening of the sun all within 3 hours! To disperse the sadistic mob to enable his ‘secret disciples’ to help, keep him alive!

13. Jews doubted his death: They suspected that he had escaped death on the cross - that he was alive!

14. Pilate ‘marvels’ to hear that Jesus was dead. He knew from experience that no man can die so soon by crucifixion. He suspected that Jesus was alive!

15. Big roomy chamber: Close at hand, and big and airy for willing hands to come to the rescue. Providence was out to keep Jesus alive!

16. Stone and ‘winding sheets’ had to be removed: Only necessary if Jesus was alive!

17. Report on winding sheets. German Scientists who carried out experiments on the ‘Shroud of Turin’ said that the heart of Jesus had not stopped functioning - that he was alive!

18. Ever in disguise! Disguise not necessary if Jesus was ‘resurrected’. Only necessary if he was alive!

19. Forbade Mary Magdalene to touch him ‘Touch me not’ for this reason that it would hurt; because he was alive!

20. ‘Not yet ascended unto my father’ In the language of the Jews, in the idiom of the Jews, he was saying, ‘I am not dead yet’, in other words, ‘I am alive!’

21. Mary Magdalene not afraid on recognising Jesus. Because she had seen signs of life before. She was looking for a Jesus who was alive!

22. Disciples petrified on seeing Jesus in the upper-room. All their knowledge about the ‘crucifixion’ was from hearsay, therefore, they could not believe that Jesus was alive!

23. Ate food again and again in his post ‘crucifixion’ appearances. Food only necessary if he was alive!

24. Never showed himself to his enemies. Because he had escaped death by the ‘skin of his teeth’. He was alive!

25. Took only short trips. Because he was not resurrected, not spiritualised, but alive!

26. Testimony of men around the tomb “Why seek ye the living among the dead?” (Luke 24:4-5) That he is not dead, but alive!

27. Testimony of angels “angels who had said that he was alive!” (Luke 24:23) Did not say, ‘resurrected’ but the actual word uttered by the angels was ‘Alive!’

28. Mary Magdalene testifies “they heard that he was alive, and had been seen by her, they believed not” (Mark 16-11).

Mary did not vouch for a spook, or ghost or spirit of Jesus but a Live Jesus. What they could not believe was that the Master was alive!

29. Dr. primrose testifies: That the ‘water and the blood’, when Jesus was lanced on the side, was on account of an upset in the nervous vessels because of the scourging by staves. Which was a sure sign that Jesus was alive!

[b]The 30th the last but not the least. You see we can keep arguing from years, so i advise we should leave all what everybody said or quote and let us stick to what the master said (Jesus himself)

In the book of John 38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 for as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [/b][i][/i]

He himself has said that the way Jonah has survived he not will not be killed by anything or anyone. It is either all of you have been mislead of he lied and we in the house of Islam believe that a prophet of God like Jesus has no reason to lie and the words of Jesus himself is more authoritative than the billions of Christian, so we stay on his side that he was not dead like Jonnah was dead for three days and three nights.

mahdino:


Jesus Christ was neither killed nor was he crucified, as alleged by the Christians and the Jews, but that he was alive! because:

1. Jesus was reluctant to die! He had worked out a strategy of defence to repel the Jews. Because he wanted to remain alive!

2. He beseeched God for help. With strong crying and tears for God Almighty to keep him alive!

3. God ‘heard’ his prayers which means that God accepted his prayers to keep him alive!

4. An angel of god came to strengthen him: In the hope and belief that God will save him alive!

5. Pilate finds Jesus not guilty! Good reason to keep Jesus alive!

6. Pilates wife shown a dream in which she was told that - ‘No harm should come to this just man.’ In other words that he should be saved alive!

7. Supposed to be on the cross for only three hours. According to the system in vogue, no man could die by crucifixion in so short a time which means that even if he was fastened to the cross - he was alive!

8. The other two - his ‘crossmates’ on their respective crosses were alive. So Jesus too, for the same period of time must be alive!

9. Encyclopedia biblica under article ‘cross’ - column 960 says: ‘When the spear was thrust - Jesus was alive!

10. ‘Forthwith’ came there out blood and water: ‘Forthwith’ means straightaway, immediately which was a sure sign that Jesus was alive!

11. Legs not broken - as a fulfilment of prophecy. ‘Legs’ can be of any use only if Jesus was alive!

12.Thunderstorm, earthquake, and darkening of the sun all within 3 hours! To disperse the sadistic mob to enable his ‘secret disciples’ to help, keep him alive!

13. Jews doubted his death: They suspected that he had escaped death on the cross - that he was alive!

14. Pilate ‘marvels’ to hear that Jesus was dead. He knew from experience that no man can die so soon by crucifixion. He suspected that Jesus was alive!

15. Big roomy chamber: Close at hand, and big and airy for willing hands to come to the rescue. Providence was out to keep Jesus alive!

16. Stone and ‘winding sheets’ had to be removed: Only necessary if Jesus was alive!

17. Report on winding sheets. German Scientists who carried out experiments on the ‘Shroud of Turin’ said that the heart of Jesus had not stopped functioning - that he was alive!

18. Ever in disguise! Disguise not necessary if Jesus was ‘resurrected’. Only necessary if he was alive!

19. Forbade Mary Magdalene to touch him ‘Touch me not’ for this reason that it would hurt; because he was alive!

20. ‘Not yet ascended unto my father’ In the language of the Jews, in the idiom of the Jews, he was saying, ‘I am not dead yet’, in other words, ‘I am alive!’

21. Mary Magdalene not afraid on recognising Jesus. Because she had seen signs of life before. She was looking for a Jesus who was alive!

22. Disciples petrified on seeing Jesus in the upper-room. All their knowledge about the ‘crucifixion’ was from hearsay, therefore, they could not believe that Jesus was alive!

23. Ate food again and again in his post ‘crucifixion’ appearances. Food only necessary if he was alive!

24. Never showed himself to his enemies. Because he had escaped death by the ‘skin of his teeth’. He was alive!

25. Took only short trips. Because he was not resurrected, not spiritualised, but alive!

26. Testimony of men around the tomb “Why seek ye the living among the dead?” (Luke 24:4-5) That he is not dead, but alive!

27. Testimony of angels “angels who had said that he was alive!” (Luke 24:23) Did not say, ‘resurrected’ but the actual word uttered by the angels was ‘Alive!’

28. Mary Magdalene testifies “they heard that he was alive, and had been seen by her, they believed not” (Mark 16-11).

Mary did not vouch for a spook, or ghost or spirit of Jesus but a Live Jesus. What they could not believe was that the Master was alive!

29. Dr. primrose testifies: That the ‘water and the blood’, when Jesus was lanced on the side, was on account of an upset in the nervous vessels because of the scourging by staves. Which was a sure sign that Jesus was alive!

[b]The 30th the last but not the least. You see we can keep arguing from years, so i advise we should leave all what everybody said or quote and let us stick to what the master said (Jesus himself)

In the book of John 38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 for as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale’s belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. [/b][i][/i]

He himself has said that the way Jonah has survived he not will not be killed by anything or anyone. It is either all of you have been mislead of he lied and we in the house of Islam believe that a prophet of God like Jesus has no reason to lie and the words of Jesus himself is more authoritative than the billions of Christian, so we stay on his side that he was not dead like Jonnah was dead for three days and three nights.

look at what you wrote' mine I give you with reference.. you still doubt. you should cap your argument with evidence...words are cheap..

phyllosilicate:
They want to extinguish the light of Allah (Islam) with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light, although the disbelievers dislike it- Qur'an 6 verse 32

He who wrote this should first read the history of those who attempted to wipe out islam. The City state of Mecca tried, the jews of Medina tried, the Persia and Eastern Roman empire tried at the same time but were engulfed. Presently Islam is one of the fastest growing religion in europe and the US.

If these are what you think would stop Islam, you are an ingorant fellow.

Quran 40:82.
Have they not travelled through the earth and seen what was the end of those before them? They were more numerous than them and mightier in strength, and in the traces (they have left behind them) in the land, yet all that they used to earn availed them not.

They don't have better things at hand. Hence this fruitless thread.

foxe:
Our least favorite question is unfortunately
one that we see quite a bit. Readers who
understand Islamic history and teaching, and
thus realize the danger that it poses to our
future naturally want to know what can be
done to prevent this from happening.
Our conclusion is that educating oneself,
educating others, and speaking truthfully
about "the Religion of Peace" is the best
start. Islam is its own worst enemy in that
the more that is known about it, the less
attractive it becomes... to everyone.
Islam spreads like a virus. It radiates from
Muslim countries that are too diseased to
support it and into healthy systems that are
that way because they have had the luxury of
developing apart from Islam. Once in the
host system, the Islam virus uses the existing
machinery to make replicas of itself. Over
time, the host makes unilateral concessions
to the religion, feeding and appeasing it in the
vain hope that this supremacist ideology can
be tamed.
Vital organs are co-opted and eventually shut
down as Islam advances. In a matter of
time, the entire system groans to an
agonizing death and assumes the condition
of the diseased nations from which Muslims
originally fled. The virus then looks for new
hosts to cannibalize.
Some Westerners, particularly those with
children (and an investment in the future),
are far-sighted enough to trace the eventual
end game of current trends. Though many
Muslims are decent people, the religion itself
always has a way of bringing the radicals
along with it. The radicals then infest and
influence the mainstream - and the rest of
society pays the cost.
A question that we often hear is, “What can
we do about it?”
First, let’s go over what shouldn’t be done
about it.

1) Do NOT hurt Muslims. Westerners generally
don’t have a problem with this, having
shown remarkable restraint in the wake of
horrendous terror attacks. Bottom line: You
don’t know any terrorists. The Muslims that
you know in your private life are not
terrorists. Don’t harm them or protect
anyone who does.

2) Do NOT hate or harass Muslims. The
Muslims that you know personally are
probably not much different than you are.
They have the same concerns for their
children’s future and the same interests in
getting ahead in life. They do not deserve to
be harassed on account of a religion that
they may not understand very well or take all
that seriously.

3) Do NOT vandalize the property of Muslims .
Same reasons; Grow up.

4) Do NOT publicly abuse copies of the Quran
It doesn’t accomplish anything other than
giving radicals another reason to play the
victim, get angry, and perhaps hurt someone.
It’s also juvenile and offensive. Treat the
Quran with the same respect that you would
prefer Muslims treat whatever book that you
consider sacred.

If you want to confront Islam, then you must
be truthful and objective, rather than rude
and slanderous. Don’t exaggerate or use
absolutes. Don’t say that all Muslims are
bad people (they aren't), or that everything
about Islam is bad.

The key to stopping Islam is education
because the more that is known about this
7 th century religion the less appeal it will
have in today’s world. Muslim defenders
know this, which is why they hide behind
censorship and book banning in the Islamic
world and desperate but comical appeals to
political correctness and multiculturalism in
the West. Muslim organizations, such as
CAIR, often rely on outright falsehood to
deceive others into dropping their defenses.
Non-Muslim Westerners should understand
that there is no reason to place Islam beyond
critical analysis or Muslims above offense
merely on that basis. In fact, there is every
reason not to do this. Islamic law poses a
threat to nearly every liberal value that the
West holds dear.

Learn as much as you can about why Islam
is dangerous. Understand its history. Learn
how thousands of people can do brutal things
each year explicitly in the name of Islam and
Allah, while a billion others never seem to be
terribly bothered about it.

In short, educate yourself. Then you can
educate others. And they can educate others
as well. Remember, Islam is not just a
religion, but also a political system.
Write to political leaders. Inform them.
Make them accountable for each
compromised standard and every freedom
lost in the name of appeasement to Islam.
Expose the lies and double-standards .
Denounce the hypocrisy of Muslim nations.
Speak truthfully. Speak tactfully .
If Islam wins, then civilization loses... but at
least we will have gone down with a fight.
source- http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/WhatToDo.htm

Lol..see clueless pple abeg...if only u knw how much effort n money were spent by some developed countries just to get rid of this true religion that you are seeing as disease the only outcome was having many people embracing the religion after further research to know more about it, it's only in nigeria and some african countries u can find all these hypocrites of religion like what we are having here who don't even know there own religion but plotting to destroy other religion strategically lol. Despite the proofs and sign makes no changes in them unlike other races out there that are open minded and ready to accept the truth. You should ask yourself this, why are people embracing this religion at a higher rate than any other religion despite the terrorism that's hiding under the umbrella of islam ??

educate about what teachings foxe

foxe:
look at what you wrote' mine I give you with reference.. you still doubt. you should cap your argument with evidence...words are cheap..

you can give a billion references, but that of Jesus alone carry's more weight. H e said in Matthew 12:38-40 that he is not going to be crucified.