In the wake of the " angry Bear " match against Satans offsprings in Syria, something that have never happened before is now happening. As Putin's iron fist Takwandos the hegemon's sons of perdtion, the unthinkable the US and it's allies in crime could not achieved for four good years, is now a reality. ISIS is now shattering the Olympics and World Records books as the fastest sprinters ever, making Usain Bolt a learner!

Scores of Islamic State militants have reportedly fled Syria in fear of an upcoming large-scale Syrian Army offensive.
© AP PHOTO/ MUZAFFAR SALMAN, FILE
Syrians View Russians as Heroes – British Journalist
More than three thousand militants from the Islamic State, Jabhat Al-Nusra and Jaish al-Yarmouk jihadist groups have left Syria for Jordan, fearing the forthcoming Syrian Army offensive, Russia’s news agency Ria Novosti quoted a military source as saying.
In Deir Ezzor, about 160 militants were reportedly killed during the fighting, while the army’s assault on Holms and Palmyra left at least seventeen militants dead.
The Western media is lamenting as Russia wrecks the nearly-set agreement of the US-led coalition to establish a no-fly zone over Syria based on Jordanian and Turkish plans, despite jihadist groups lacking any aerial strike capabilities, while adding that the US and its allies have begun “preparing to open up a major front in northeastern Syria”.
“The Russian forces now in place make it very, very obvious that any kind of no-fly zone on the Libyan model imposed by the US and allies is now impossible, unless the coalition is actually willing to shoot down Russian aircraft,” The Financial Times quotes Justin Bronk, a research analyst at the Royal United Services Institute as saying.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast /20151005/1028025936/us-syria- no-fly-zone.html#ixzz3ngBhBFJ1

Is Washington willing to shoot down Russian planes?

NaijaTalkTown:
Is Washington willing to shoot down Russian planes?

That is, if they want to trigger WW3.

Meanwhile Mpre bad market for US.

Russia does not discriminate between the different shades of 'crap' (terrorists)
Fort Russ :

Russia does not discriminate between the different shades of 'crap' (terrorists)

VG-News.ru
Translated by K. Rus
Russia tightly shut the sky over Syria for any aircraft, except its own
American military expert, a former Colonel of the U.S. army Jack Jacobs said that the United States can't interfere with Russians in Syria, as Russia de facto set up a no-fly zone, cutting off access to any aircraft with the help of air defense systems deployed on land and on ships of the Russian navy in the Mediterranean.
In the Saudi paper on Friday, October 2 appeared an interview with former U.S. Colonel Jack Jacobs, who announced that the United States can't stop the Russians in Syria, as Russia has set up a no-fly zone.. This means that any military aircraft entering the combat zone, may be immediately shot down as a threat to the Russian airspace forces.
American sources claim that the Russian Federation with the assistance of deployed land-based air defense systems have established a no-fly zone over the entire airspace of Syria, in addition the approaches to the Russian airbase in Latakia are also closed from the sea to a distance of 100-250 km from the coast by the Russian navy, now conducting exercises in the Mediterranean sea.
Thus, the U.S. and its allies can't even carry out the air reconnaissance of the Russian Federation forces.
A source in military circles of the American military in Turkey reported that NATO aircraft, trying to get close to the forces of the Russian Federation,has been identified by radar, and the source of the radar could not even be traced.
"The Russians have indicated that they can see everything, and getting closer is not worth it, otherwise it will be shot down", - said the American military.
"Frankly we were surprised by the air defense system of Russia, most likely there are the latest systems S-400. I have no other ideas," - said Colonel Jack Jacobs.
About Russians creating a no-fly zone over Syria also writes Bloombeg, citing a senior American military officer. The commander of the NATO forces in Europe General Philip Breedlove said that the new military infrastructure of Russia in Syria, including air defense systems, de facto creates a no-fly zone.
According to Breedlove, Russia has created over Syria,a "sphere of negation", which American planes can't enter.
General Breedlove believes that "very complex air defense system" deployed by Russia in Syria is aimed not against the "Islamic state", which does not have aviation. "They are against someone else," said the commander of the NATO forces in Europe.
"After several years of discussion in the U.S.of plans to create no-fly zones in Syria to protect the rebels and civilians, appeared Vladimir Putin and in a few days established his own no-fly zone.
In the US the two parties argued for a long time and could not agree, about a no-fly zone, and Putin just went ahead and did it," sarcastically said the author of the article on Bloomberg.
The Pentagon has admitted the scale of the Russian no-fly zone in Syria, when it began negotiations with Russia on how to avoid conflicts in the conduct of their air operations.
Discussion between the military of the two countries was conducted on October 1 via a closed video channel, and lasted about an hour. On the American side in the negotiations participated the assistant Secretary of Defense for international security Elyssa Slotkin.
"The discussion was devoted to how the U.S. and Russia can cooperate on the prevention of conflict in Syria. Such discussions will continue," - said following the talks, the official White house spokesman Josh Ernest.
It is also known that Elissa Slotkin expressed in the negotiations concern that Russia is striking not only the militants of the "Islamic state" but other groups of terrorists, which the US considers "moderate opposition to Assad" and supports them.
The response of the representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry is unclear, but apparently, the general sense was that "We can not discriminate between the different shades of 'crap'. So we will hammer everyone who shoots at the soldiers of the legitimate government of Syria, at whose request we are here".
And the Americans had to accept it. Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook said that the U.S. government will not use U.S. air power to protect the "moderate rebels".
Apparently the "goodwill", shown by the United States compromising with Russia, is not exactly "good", but is caused by a complete fiasco of the U.S. armed forces, which in the last 20 years bombed only the 'Papuans' and forgot what it was like to deal with real high-tech adversary armed with modern sea and air defense systems.
And now the Americans are just lost because they do not know how to behave with those who are able to realistically fight back.
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NaijaTalkTown:
Is Washington willing to shoot down Russian planes?

Dey no born dem well,

You think say na film trick we dey so?
A trial will convince them.

Tkester:


Dey no born dem well,

You think say na film trick we dey so?
A trial will convince them.

You have said it all!

No producer for hollywood go gree touch this one.

Appleyard:
You have said it all!

No producer for hollywood go gree touch this one.

hahahaha no show for yankee

Tkester:


Dey no born dem well,

You think say na film trick we dey so?
A trial will convince them.

And what will russia do if america ''mistakenly'' shot down a russian jet?
Invade america?
lol.
Putin would just rave and rant and that would be the end of it.

CSTR2:
And what will russia do if america ''mistakenly'' shot down a russian jet?
Invade america?
lol.
Putin would just rave and rant and that would be the end of it.

Russia too will mistakenly shoot down American jet.

Sveen:
Russia too will mistakenly shoot down American jet.

They cannot.

Nigerdeltaboi:
hahahaha no show for yankee

I dey tell You Their fowl don lay cook egg tire for Warri

CSTR2:
And what will russia do if america ''mistakenly'' shot down a russian jet?
Invade america?
lol.
Putin would just rave and rant and that would be the end of it.

Nonsense!
Let them Just make the mistake of shooting down any Russian jet and thats the day America will know the difference between reality and fiction.

Go and do your research properly before commenting nonsense.

NaijaTalkTown:
Is Washington willing to shoot down Russian planes?

Or will the Israeli Special Ops shoot down Russian or American plane to instigate it?

Chess not checkers.

Appleyard:
I dey tell You Their fowl don lay cook egg tire for Warri

lol

anangboy:


Or will the Israeli Special Ops shoot down Russian or American plane to instigate it?

Chess not checkers.

Isreal are not that crazy to do such a thing.

THE U.S OF A,RUN RUN THERE IS A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN.ON MANY OCASSIONS WHEN THERE WERE TOPICS LIKE THIS,SO MANY PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM HYPER-VENTILATED ON HOW THE U.S WOULD DO THIS AND DO THAT TO RUSSIA BUT WHERE ARE THEY NOW,THIS AIN'T LIBYA OR IRAQ.BRING THE GAME ON.

Appleyard:
Isreal are not that crazy to do such a thing.

Do you think Israel was crazy enough to plant bombs in American and British owned assets in 'Operation Susannah', so that it would seem that these actions were conducted by Egyptian rebels? Surely the Israelis would have been crazy enough to attack and sink the USS Liberty naval ship in 1967 and so many other subtle attacks that mankind might never know.

Israel considers Obama pro-palestine and the worst president America has had in 30yrs. The nuclear deal with Iran compounded that view and Netanyahu didn't mince words in his UN address. Israel is probably propping for a Republican US president.

Now, Israel is wary of Russia's involvement in Syria. NATO's bluntness in defeating ISIL leads to many conjectures. It is common sense to assume that if the Arab nations are in some sort of peace then Israel's stability could be severly tested and Russia's stay in Syria stunts Israel's regional hegemon and capacity to project power in the Middle East.

This is just a haphazard rundown of events but do you think some paranoid Israeli generals have not thought of using their advanced capability in subterfuge warfare to maintain some sort of western militarisation in the Middle East?

anangboy:


Do you think Israel was crazy enough to plant bombs in American and British owned assets in 'Operation Susannah', so that it would seem that these actions were conducted by Egyptian rebels? Surely the Israelis would have been crazy enough to attack and sink the USS Liberty naval ship in 1967 and so many other subtle attacks that mankind might never know.

Israel considers Obama pro-palestine and the worst president America has had in 30yrs. The nuclear deal with Iran compounded that view and Netanyahu didn't mince words in his UN address. Israel is probably propping for a Republican US president.

Now, Israel is wary of Russia's involvement in Syria. NATO's bluntness in defeating ISIL leads to many conjectures. It is common sense to assume that if the Arab nations are in some sort of peace then Israel's stability could be severly tested and Russia's stay in Syria stunts Israel's regional hegemon and capacity to project power in the Middle East.

This is just a haphazard rundown of events but do you think some paranoid Israeli generals have not thought of using their advanced capability in subterfuge warfare to maintain some sort of western militarisation in the Middle East?

I got your points and the situation Isreal finds itself currently in the wake of the Iranian nuclear deal and the Syrian crisis vis Russian involvement. No doubt about it; Israel has been a regional hegemon for decades, ever since the Camp David accords neutralized Egypt as a significant player in the Levant. Since 1979, Israel has had complete freedom of military movement in this region. It took advantage of its new hegemony to invade Lebanon in 1982 and to occupy 10% of that country for 18 years. But following the quick succession of recent events like the Iranian nuclear deal and Russia entry into the war against ISIS in Syria, the dynamics for Isreal as it relate to its hitherto unchallenged power within the MidEast, has changed drastically and dramatically. For instance, prior to Russia's direct intervention in Syria, Isreal practically had a field day flying in and out of Syrian airspace more than 10 times, bombing targets with relative ease. But because Russia came into Syria, Israel had to come to an agreement with Moscow about Israeli F-16s attacking convoys and other targets of Hizbullah in Syria. This implies that Isreal understands the unintended possibility of killing Russian Advisers in Syria and the undisputable backlash and consequencies that would surely follow. This no Egypt, Syrians or Palestinians you can target at will and nothing will happen. This is RUSSIA - Georgia and Ukraine have the testimonial certificates to this fact! Hence, the need for the Isreali coordination with Russia.
The coordination worked out between Israel and Russia some how clips Israel's wings, denying it the prerogative of entering Syrian airspace at will and striking unilaterally. However, it does not implies that the IDF can not on the long defend it's interest relating to Syria, but such must now take into consideration the presence and positions of the Rujssians. The Russians body language is very clear. They will not take shit from any body. We saw how six Russian fighters confronted their Isreali counterparts last week on Syrian airspace, and the F16s were forced to turn back from their course. So, i don't see Isreal covertly or overtly sabotaging any efforts of the Russians, particularly as it does not directly affect their larger and strategic interest in the Region. Besides, they already knew that Russia is seeing everything and the place is too close to home. Not forgeting also that the Isrealis may have concluded that a prolonged Syrian war will keep Iran deeply involved and Hezbollah bugged down, giving Isreal the breathing space to go about other areas of interest the region.
It is also possible that Russia might also help to tramp down on weapons shipment to Hezbollah, depending on the nature of the coordination Isreal now have with Russia. You never can tell, this is politics. And lastly, Russia's presence and intervention in Syria is strategic and is limited to certain objectives - of which the ultimate is to stand up against American dictatorship, not to challenge Isreal's regional hegemony nor to mentain a permanent foothold in the region.
I believe Isreali policy makers and top strategists might have contemplated such possibilities, hence, i don't see them wanting to start a cowboy riding especially when they know the enemy is more than capable of not just riding but also can shoot as well.

Fleshly:


Nonsense!
Let them Just make the mistake of shooting down any Russian jet and thats the day America will know the difference between reality and fiction.

Go and do your research properly before commenting nonsense.

There is nothing russia can do aside raving and ranting.
They are thugs dosen't mean they are stupidd.

CSTR2:
There is nothing russia can do aside raving and ranting.
They are thugs dosen't mean they are stupidd.

Yes. Infact the Russians have not been doing anything in Syria for the past 2 weeks. Lol

CSTR2:
And what will russia do if america ''mistakenly'' shot down a russian jet?
Invade america?
lol.
Putin would just rave and rant and that would be the end of it.

the America government understand and believe that the Russia air defence is formidable considering latest s-400 Russia surface to air missile. American jet will shivering in sky

The response of the representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry is unclear, but apparently, the general sense was that "We can not discriminate between the different shades of 'crap'. So we will hammer everyone who shoots at the soldiers of the legitimate government of Syria, at whose request we are here ".

Putin is the real "New sheriff in Town" not some crap an 'image-shiner' was talking about.

Appleyard,

I found an article you will probably like

https://ninabyzantina./2015/10/06/state-propaganda-realities-of-the-russian-media-landscape/

Missy89:
Appleyard,

I found an article you will probably like

https://ninabyzantina./2015/10/06/state-propaganda-realities-of-the-russian-media-landscape/

Well, i must thank you for this wonderful link. Initially when i started goinjg through, i thought this is just another line of propaganda. But when i got to the end, i discovered the true intent of the article.

The truth is both sides of the fence are guilty of propaganda, but when it comes to that, Russia is still learning. The West is simply nothing to write home about when it comes to critical journalism. That cencorship of Putin's ISIS talk is a clear indication of that line of that line of thought. And if any one (like the article opioned somewhere) thinks that the Government particularly in the west is not involved in media control, then am afraid to say that such person is still understanding or the dept of information slavery.

A leading journalist who was grabbling with the conscience of his soul came out and confessed how the CIA was bribing and controlling most Media houses and papers, including himself.
http://justice4germans.com/2014/11/19/leading-german-journalist-admits-cia-routinely-bribed-him-germany-is-a-colony-of-the-usa/
We are also aware of how BBS-in (sorry, BBC) was caught reporting the 9/11 attack " 27 minutes before it actually happened ". What does that entails? " that somebody went off script up there ". Thats right.

My dear, propaganda is a weapon in hands of the enemy, just that you don't need to be propagandized before you can tell certain things by themselves. E.g, the Creation of ISIS, the US behaviour towards it, the invation of Iraq under false pretext, etc, etc.