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The Popes And Saint Peter: Separating Facts From Fiction!!! by Nobody: 12:16pm On Oct 06, 2015
[b] “You are Peter and on this rock I shall
build my church and the gates of hell
shall not prevail over it”.

The words of Jesus Christ to Simon Peter and thus the
coronation of the first pope of the
church. But is that what Jesus Christ
really meant? Did Simon Peter hold any
special privilege or primacy over the
other Apostles because of the statement
of Jesus Christ? Was Peter ever a pope?
Did he even set foot in Rome?

All these
have been debated for over 2000 years with
no common ground insight. For many
(myself inclusive), the rise of the bishop
of Rome and thus Roman Catholic
church had more to do with politics than
any special spiritual favours gotten from
Simon Peter.


The early church was divided into
two;Church of the east (the Greek
church) and church of the west (the Latin
church) with four main centres of
Christianity
namely; Rome, Antioch, Alexandra and
Jerusalem. Each of these centres had a
bishop known as Patriarch (like pope), so
invariably there were four popes who
were viewed as Co equals. It should be
noted that the privileges bestowed on
this Patriarch were because of the fact
that the had the largest Christian
populations in the Roman empire and
were also the biggest cities. Rome was
the capital of the empire and thus it was
expected that it’s bishop would
command respect as the leader of
Christians in the most famous city in the
world at that time,the city of Augustus
Caesar. This privilege was therefore
political and had nothing to do with
Simon Peter. The so called “popes" at
those times were okay with that, they
didn’t see they need to remind any one
of the words of Jesus to Peter. At the
same time Antioch,Alexandra and
Jerusalem lost their preeminence in the
empire leaving Rome and thus it’s
bishop unchallenged. Despite this there
was never a universal synod of the
church until over 300 years after Christ
because there was no bishop who was the
absolute leader of the church as later
popes began to claim.


All these changed when in the
year 312 AD, Emperor Constantine
embraced Christian and made it the
empires foremost religion thereby
beginning the illicit union between
church and state. The bishops of Rome as
expected became political figures as well
as spiritual leaders but Constantine did
the unthinkable and shifted the capital
of the empire from Rome to
Constantinople leading to the birth of a
new rival to the bishop of Rome for the
role of most important personality in
Christendom. I mean, if the bishop of
Rome claimed preeminence because he
was bishop of the capital of the empire,
the bishop of Constantinople could also
do same since it (Constantinople)was
the new capital (the new eternal
city).

These events/changes began the
struggle between Rome and
Constantinople for primacy that
culminated in the great schism of 1054
and thus the formal separation of the
church of the east (Constantinople )and
the church of the west (Rome).Yes the
western pope excommunicated the
eastern pope and vice versa. It was at
this point the western popes decided to
abandon their claim of primacy from the
political point of view (because let’s face
it the Roman empire was already
crumbling and stopped being an
attractive angle.) and adopted the talk of
them being heirs to the throne of Peter.
Constantinople on the other hand was
constantly under siege from the
Muslims and thus the Patriarch and the
eastern Christians were more after their
lives and how Islam won’t override
them.

With time Islam conquered
Jerusalem,North Africa,Asia minor
(present day turkey) relegating the once
large eastern church to a small sect
while the western church and the Pope
in Rome sought the help of barbarians
for support and protection (Rome was far
from the reach of the all conquering
Muslims).In 1452 Constantinople was
conquered after a 28 day siege. It was a
bloody day for eastern Christians,many
were killed including the Patriarch of
Constantinople. Many Christians
converted to Islam in the face of torture.
Constantinople is present day Istanbul.
Meanwhile the popes were busy
strengthening their claimed to primacy
over all Christians. Eastern Christians
are presently the Orthodox church,the
are similar to Roman Catholic church
but reject the primacy of the bishop of
Rome over all Christendom. Protestant
disagreement with Catholics is a matter
of doctrines but that is another story of
its own.


In conclusion,Don’t you think the
reverse would have been the case if the
eastern church and the Patriarch of
Constantinople didn’t have the bad luck
of proximity to the heart of Islam?Am
not in any way trying to discredit
Catholics or the papacy, am just stating
facts and driving through history.
[/b]

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Re: The Popes And Saint Peter: Separating Facts From Fiction!!! by FabioPeter: 5:14am On Oct 07, 2015
Good read. Thank you.

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