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Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 12:54pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Ground troops loyal to Bashar al-Assad have launched a major offensive in central Syria backed by Russian airstrikes in an escalation in Moscow’s week-long campaign, which has so far been restricted to bombing runs to soften up rebel positions near major loyalist strongholds. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 12:58pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89 I know ya bosses in Fairfax county and Langley won't like this and they're already counting their losses...but you gotta admit that Putin is now the leader of the free world. Worshiped in Russia. Wild celebrations in Europe. Brits calling the great man from Russia the saviour and the strongest world leader since Ronald Reagan. Africans are also jubilating. Only the yanks are yet to get on board. The bear has arrived - it's the Russian century! Emperor Putin! 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Fleshly: 1:19pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
@ Shymex, I feel now is the time for America to show the world a proof of its military might. Alas, it seems there military strength is only good on paper. Honestly, if Putin succeeds in his air campaign in Syria, then he would have restored Russia's leadership in the world. Also, if PUtin succeeds in this air campaign, it will embolden him and that marks the beginning of the end of Saudi Arabia, NATO, and Sanctions. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Lucasbalo(m): 1:22pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x:Hey Buddy, you have to understand that Americans are tired of war especially what we went through with George Bush inIraq and Afghanistan. The economic impact is still being felt here not to talk of thousands of young Americans that died needlessly or tens of thousands that were injured. Putin can get himself bungled down in the Middle East for all I care. That may be the nail that will shut down his (Russian) economy. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Fleshly: 1:23pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x: Please tell me - I've heard so much about this Ronald Reagan, and I can't seem to find any strong achievement he recorded. So I ask what is this fuss about Reagan 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Fleshly: 1:25pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Lucasbalo: Rubbish, One word for this post - jealousy and incompetence! 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Lucasbalo(m): 1:28pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Fleshly:Obviously youu don't know nothing about what you are talking about. Jealousy and incompetence from where. Because americand are tired of war, to u that's incompetence and jealousy. Get a grip. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 1:36pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Lucasbalo: How are the yanks tired of wars when they are responsible for the wars in Syria and Iraq, ISIL, Afghanistan, all kinds of Muslim extremists, and Ukraine? And why are crying when Putin is basically trying to clean up the mess they created? Putin thinks before he acts unlike those at Pentagon. Trust me, the war in Syria would be over in a few months and the Islamists are already running away from the country. Unlike the over four years of deaths and utter destruction the yanks created there which have spilled over to Iraq, Libya, and beyond. This is kinetic power projection with assets that are highly effective and well coordination devoid of ulterior motives associated with the US and utter destruction. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 1:40pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Fleshly: It wasn't really about his achievement on a global scale cos he was a racist who destroyed more than two generations of African Americans with drugs and mass incarceration - and the brain behind the reason why drug trafficking became as big as it is today. However, even his biggest critics will always agree that he projected the US power to greater heights. He made the US more powerful than it actually is - hence he earned the strong leader tag. Reagan was a rough rider. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Lucasbalo(m): 1:52pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x:You are absolutely wrong to say Americans are not tired of war. Remember , that was one of the reasons obama beat John McCain in 2008 election. We have presidential primaries going on now and war is not something americans are eager to get into especially with the economy in slow motion. That's going to be the Achille hills for the Republican nominee comes general election.we have spent trillions of dollars on this worthless wars with nothing to show for it. Putin is getting himself to something that he will regret. I hope Cameron follows Putin into Syria the same way your former PM followed Bush into the mess in Iraq and Afghanistan. No more unnecessary war from this Yankee and overwhelming majority of Yankees. Like the popular movie song says 'War, what's good for, absolutely nothing'. I wish Putin and his Amen corner well. He will find out Middle East is a volatile region. His country people will turn against him when the economy goes south. Time will tell. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 2:44pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x: The cruise missiles was more of a show off. Good for Russia. Too early to tell how effective their intervention will be but so far so good. I don't believe in the "moderate" jihadist idea anyway. A terrorist is a terrorist. That said, if America raise the stakes and give their jihadist missiles to shot down Russian planes, what then? The Russian century part is a big joke. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by ken4jj(m): 2:53pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x:This is a wrong move for Putin on the long run. he is repeating the foolish mistakes of the US in a bid to stand up to the US.The US credibility was lost in the middle east. If not for stupid pride, the US should have no business in the middle east having failed policies all over the region. World leaders just act without thinking about the consequences. The middle east is not europe where people are reasonable, it is a different ball game. They live to fight and die. This whole Syrian problem is still the same struggle between the Shiites and the Sunnis which will never be solved. What will happen now is that even if there is victory now, the war will resurface sooner than later because the sunnis will never allow Shia Iran of dominating the region while Iran is bent on having an upper hand in the region. This is why Putin should have left them to do their shit instead of getting bugged down in sectarian struggle like the Americans. The sunnis are seeing Putin as defendant of the shittes and they shittes are seeing it as a victory, as long as the Sunni Saudi wants to prevent Shitte Iran from being a regional power, trust them, they will keep sponsoring the terrorists and there will never be peace in that region just to out do the other. The middle east is not Ukraine, it is a useless region. For Russia to defeat them, then Russia troops will have to be on ground and not leave ever again else whatever gains they made will mount to nothing. It is not worth the casualty they will suffer and a drain of resources for people who can never agree. One of the foreign policy blunders of the US is to think democracy will work in that region. Pure lie. Dictatorship is the best for that region. If those bad guys were still around, the region will have been safer overall. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Tkester: 2:58pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x: I've heard this cliche severally, but how did he do that? Did he g to war? Explain further, because myself I'm at loss too as to what the man actually accomplished. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Tkester: 3:02pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Lucasbalo: Nonsense! Nonsense!! Nonsense!!! The simple truth is that Russia muscled America outta Syria - accept it so that you may live long. Stop pretending to be what you're not. If it were a third rate power like Nigeria, NATO and America will be falling over themselves with ultimatums and bombs, but here we are presented with all forms of excuses as to why Americans can't even defend their own ally the FSA. Grow up! 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 3:25pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Tkester: Since the atomic age Most great powers are not interested in direct confrontations anymore but project power by raising the stakes. Reagan proposed a star war program ( Thou unsuccessful ) which had a physiological toll on the soviet union. They were so afraid all their nukes will be rendered useless and at the time they were deploying them monthly. When NATO started operation ABLE ARCHER war game in 83, The Russians were so scared they started deploying troops because the felt Reagan was unpredictable and was about to start a war. They even had their spies check if the lights were on late at the pentagon and state department at night ( according to their logic that means the Americans are planning something) Point is, Reagan was ready to raise the stakes unlike weak Obama who is more interested in having a legacy. The same thing Putin is doing right now. Putin doesn't want a confrontation at the same time he is convince the US will rather save face then challenge him. It is sort of like Nixon's MAD MAN THEORY. That is why Reagan was regarded as a strong leader. He is unpredictable and will go all in. No time to restart or negotiations at least not openly. Even when the soviet union is decaying and was Ready to collapse when he meet Gobby in Iceland, He totally refused to scale back or reduce US missile deployment so that the Soviet union can do the same and cut cost. And yes, he invaded few countries. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Nobody: 4:55pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89: Then Russia would respond in kind by giving similar weapons to enemies of the US and its allies to shoot down not just planes, but that can decimate US battle ships as well . Russian forces are only in Syria and probably Ukraine, but US forces are spread across the globe, and have more enemies than Russia would ever have... In such game of tit-for-tat, US and its allies have more to loose. US isn't that stupid and Syria isnt worth the gamble. 5 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Tkester: 5:00pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
@Missy Are you the person on your dp? If so, can we run things? Can I PM you? |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 5:07pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
OTDR: Obama doesn't have to arm anyone . He just need to show he is willing to raise the stakes. Russia is at the point of no return in Syria by escalating. Success is the only acceptable option at this point and the US can make that difficult it decides to. Personally I want Russia to succeed but everything depends on how successful their military will be at this point. Soviet Military leadership told Brezhnev they could win in Afghanistan too. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 5:16pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89: Lol. Missy sounds bitter. I know how it feels when billions wasted to train and fund death squads, terrorists, propaganda and utter destruction are destroyed by the "good guys" loool. You still haven't told what the mood of ya bosses in Fairfax county is right now, after seeing the evil Islamic empire they created get smashed to bits. Yes, cruise missiles are more of a show off despite the effectiveness, no? The whole thing should be over in a matter of months - this isn't Afghanistan of the 90s with a Soviet doctrine that wasn't effective against asymmetry warfare. This is Putin's Russia with tons of servicemen who already fought in Chechnya. And Stinger missiles aren't effective against planes flying in high altitude. 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Nobody: 5:31pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89: Whether you believe it or not, Putin's Russia is more popular and respected now than it ever was by outsmarting US and its allies in Syria. No amount of saber-rattling from the US and its allies can change that fact. The only way US can gain back its respect is by diplomacy, and that means Assad stays. Since the fall of the Soviet Union, US has lobbied Russia (with money) so its weapons dont fall into the hands of its enemies, and Russia has respected that for the most part. I dont think the US would burn that bridge with Russia over, common Syria. If that happens US has more to loose. Thats no brainer. 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 5:32pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Shymm3x: I wasn't talking about shooting down their planes in high altitude. They have been using their helis too for air base patrol. Point is , Let's just hope no Russian pilot or solider fall into captivity. The war is still very far from over. Dont count your eggs yet. I heard yesterday's offensive had minimal success. SAA made little gain despite relentless VKS air support |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Nobody: 5:38pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89: This is not about counting eggs, but weighing of consequences which are already too obvious. You dont throw stones at your glass house neighbor when you live in a far bigger & costlier glass house. That's called double stupid. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by nitlad: 5:41pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Power propagation all these. . . How unfortunate are Syrians? |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 5:45pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
OTDR: US is more concerned about Russia loosing nuclear weapons. that is what they have been helping the Russians with. No one is concerned about Russia shipping arms here or there. The US sells arms illegally too . It is for Russia's own good not the other way around. The Reason why US does this has more to do with the state of Russian military bureaucracy which was utterly corrupt after the soviet Union fell. Many generals who stopped receiving payments saw their arsenal as a source of income. NATO even had a contingency invading Russia and taking control of the nukes in the 90s should the government fall. Putin gaining respect and outsmarting the US might be popular opinion which is very true but has nothing to do with how state decision making works. Thats for the media and the general audience. Few visible political and military maneuvers by Obama can change the course of event thou he is too weak to do it. Russia has more to loose breaking up with the US everybody knows that. The Syria situation will not burn any bride however no matter how it turns out |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 5:47pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
OTDR: My point is Russia's military success is too early to analyze even thou it looks promising so far. I will let the situation plays out for few more weeks. Putin's Fan boys are already declaring victory. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Missy89(f): 5:48pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Tkester: what things do you want to run? |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Sveen: 5:54pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
OTDR:So on point. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Tkester: 5:55pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89: Pardon my choice of words... Poor diction indeed. Nothing much, its just to get to know you and maybe see if we do fit. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 6:03pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Missy89: Falling into captivity is part of war. How many US soldiers and special forces have been killed in Afghanistan? How about the countless number if aircrafts that have been destroyed including brazen attacks on US bases? Once they signed up for the offensive, they know there will be collateral damage, regardless of whatever PR propaganda tool it might be for the US and its media. To Russians: it is better to fight the Islamists in Syria, while protecting their interests and projecting power - than wait for some of them to come knocking on Russia's door. These Islamists are death squads and they're tools for global destabilisation. In case you don't know, a lot of them also fought in Ukraine. Anyway, latest from Pentagon: www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/08/russia-pay-price-syrian-airstrikes-ashton-carter-us-defence-secretary I thought the US was against ISIL - why all the threats and sabre-rattling? At least, now we know the true face of ISIL loool. Yes, minimal success according to US media. But to the rest of the world - a lot of Islamists are leaving Syria en-masse and heading to Europe. The Alpha Group are landing in Syria soon - expect total wipe out. There should be a false flag as well. 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Shymm3x: 6:04pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Tkester: Leave the chic alone and discuss the topic. |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Appleyard(m): 6:05pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Fleshly:There is nothing that can stop him from succeeding, except God wants him to fail, which i doubt. The reputation of the man is growing everyday. His popularity has increased by another 7% back home. Accross Africa, mother Russia is hailed as God's vengeance against those wicked sons of perdition. Many in Europe are raising the thump-up sign of solidarity, while Iraq will soon call in Russia to rain down God's wrath upon ISIS, there are now reports that Afghanistan may solicit Russia's support to tackle the Taliban and Al Qaida insurgency in the country. Who is next on the line for Russia's goodwill? All these taking place while America is awe struck and bewildered at the speed of Russia's achievement, to the extent that the senate committee on Intelligence is Summoning a meeting of the defense and intelligence gathering bodies and policy makers to explain how come the Russians within such a short time is scoring such success with relative speed and ease, and how they have not been able to pre-empt Putin's move in Syria prior to the overt intervention. As you can see, while Putin is bound to succeed, given the moral support both from home and abroad, the US is still busy puzzling over the outcome and the direction current events is taking in Syria. The reson is that US policy makers have this warped and shortsighted believe that Russia lacked the econjomic power to undertake such military excercise far from home, and that in military terms, is nothing other than an old, hag military with capabilities limited to Soviet era, and so can do no sh*t. But right now, they are all learning something new. Putin is bound to succeed, and the worst the Yankees can do is to arm the so-called moderate rebels to shoot down Russian planes, which i can bet, the Russians must have already pre-empt, hence, the move to deploy advance hardwares to adequately prepare for a ground attack that will effectively take out such installations. The US military is as strong as it is, yeah! But in the face of the current show, it can hardly do anything different. Pentagon is still very much unchallangable, but this time, " Only in the Movies ". 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Launches Cruise Missles From Warships In Caspian Sea by Appleyard(m): 6:09pm On Oct 08, 2015 |
Lucasbalo:How is Americans tired of war when their Government is not? |
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