This thread is dedicated to those who gain joy by causing disharmony and sowing seeds of hatred in people where non exist.


Nigeria is a country located in the African continent, it's located in the west African sub region close to the Equator and lies between latitude and longitude 4 to14 degrees north and 3 to 15 degrees east.
It is a very diverse country with people with different culture, way of lives, religion and tribe.
We have the hausa/fulanis making the majority tribe in the north, the yorubas making the majority tribe in the west and the igbos making the majority tribe in the east, plus other ethilnic groups like Kanuri, nupe, igala, idoma, ijaw, oron, benin, itsekiri etc.
I want to compare between two ethnic groups, its people and there history.
The Great Benin people of the mid west and the Great Igbos of Eastern Nigeria.

following

Me Not drifting far but I want to correct some impressions and some propagandas that has been carried around by some benin elements about igbo people and I want Nigeria and the world to be the judge;
Before independence the Benin empire was one of the most influential in west Africa and Africa as the whole, with the Oba of Benin as its ruler plus his sons and other administrators who assisted him, during the reign of the Benin empire just as every other kingdom as at then was built on the backs of slaves, agriculture and trade. But one thing differentiated the Benin empire from others, its tyranny and wickedness that made British explorers write about Benin with the following statement;
"Naval intelligence officer R.H. Bacon wrote,

The one lasting remembrance of Benin in my mind is its smells. Crucifixions, human sacrifices, and every horror the eye could get accustomed to, to a large extent, but the smells no white man’s internal economy could stand. …

Blood was everywhere; smeared over bronzes, ivory, and even the walls, and spoke the history of that awful city in a clearer way than writing ever could. And this had been going on for centuries! Not the lust of one king, not the climax of a bloody reign, but the religion (save the word!) of the race …

the atrocities of Benin, originating in blood lust and desire to terrorise the neighbouring states, the brutal love of mutilation and torture, and the wholesale manner in which the caprices of the King and Juju were satisfied, could only have been the result of stagnant brutality …

[I saw] a crucifixion tree with a double crucifixion on it, the two poor wretches stretched out facing the west, with their arms bound together in the middle. The construction of this tree was peculiar, being absolutely built for the purpose of crucifixion. At the base were skulls and bones, literally strewn about; the debris of former sacrifices … and down every main road were two or more human sacrifices.

The synoptic reports of two other officers are excerpted in this tome; e.g.,

Seven large sacrifice compounds were found inclosed by walls … [containing earthen] altars [that] were covered with streams of dried human blood … [and] open pits filled with human bodies giving forth the most trying odours."

Ok

"the atrocities of Benin, originating in blood lust and desire to terrorise the neighbouring states, the brutal love of mutilation and torture, and the wholesale manner in which the caprices of the King and Juju were satisfied, could only have been the result of stagnant brutality …"
notice the statement made above this is a people who just because they had a little opportunity and just an upper hand than others they maltreated and oppressed all they could.
There was still records of other atrocities perpetuated by the Benin people much of such tendency which still exist in them, with there only set back being that there new minority role in Nigeria.
Now the Benin Empire has been weakened and this people with there land grabbing tendency began to look for a way to hold sway and subjugate others in the new Nigeria system, what way did they see to do that but by trying to use igbo groups in the southsouth as there new tool, this they have been able to do by;
(1) trying to rewrite there history with the grand plan of making the gullible ones beleive they are from Benin.
(2) looking for a way to make the minorities form a nation along side them, then the moment this nation is formed they launch another invasion in the whole southsouth and instill there benin empire as the sole authority of this there Republic.
(3) the moment they separate the main stream igbos from the coastal igbos(southsouth igbos) they carry out a progrom and ethnic cleansing on them and take over there land.

Let me buttress my number 3 points with some facts before and after the civil war, before the civil war there was some attempts by the Benin people to expel the Igbo territories of the Midwest comprising of the present day anioma in exchange for the eastern Ijaws because of there fear of igbo domination, "now check out this theory if this people were Benin people why such attempts"?.... Not only that it is on record what the Benin people did to the southsouth igbos of delta state when the federal troops entered Benin, they went around pointing out every Igbo person to be killed, there criteria for pointing was as far as ur name is chukwu or Chi or as far as u are not Ijaw, urhobo, itsekiri or Isoko or Benin then u were igbo, in this killing they left behind traiks of dead bodies and husbandless women, and even orphans in there paths it was a bloody period for the Southsouth igbos.

lygn19:
Me Not drifting far but I want to correct some impressions and some propagandas that has been carried around by some benin elements about igbo people and I want Nigeria and the world to be the judge;
Before independence the Benin empire was one of the most influential in west Africa and Africa as the whole, with the Oba of Benin as its ruler plus his sons and other administrators who assisted him, during the reign of the Benin empire just as every other kingdom as at then was built on the backs of slaves, agriculture and trade. But one thing differentiated the Benin empire from others, its tyranny and wickedness that made British explorers write about Benin with the following statement;
"Naval intelligence officer R.H. Bacon wrote,

The one lasting remembrance of Benin in my mind is its smells. Crucifixions, human sacrifices, and every horror the eye could get accustomed to, to a large extent, but the smells no white man’s internal economy could stand. …

Blood was everywhere; smeared over bronzes, ivory, and even the walls, and spoke the history of that awful city in a clearer way than writing ever could. And this had been going on for centuries! Not the lust of one king, not the climax of a bloody reign, but the religion (save the word!) of the race …

the atrocities of Benin, originating in blood lust and desire to terrorise the neighbouring states, the brutal love of mutilation and torture, and the wholesale manner in which the caprices of the King and Juju were satisfied, could only have been the result of stagnant brutality …

[I saw] a crucifixion tree with a double crucifixion on it, the two poor wretches stretched out facing the west, with their arms bound together in the middle. The construction of this tree was peculiar, being absolutely built for the purpose of crucifixion. At the base were skulls and bones, literally strewn about; the debris of former sacrifices … and down every main road were two or more human sacrifices.

The synoptic reports of two other officers are excerpted in this tome; e.g.,

Seven large sacrifice compounds were found inclosed by walls … [containing earthen] altars [that] were covered with streams of dried human blood … [and] open pits filled with human bodies giving forth the most trying odours."

why do you have to quote a white man? like they will ever give a black man his well deserved credit. smh

Now fast forward to 40years later when oil has been discovered in the domain of the igbos and the Benin no longer as rich as it used to be, this set of people then have a rethink and wake up one day only to start saying the people they pointed out to be killed is there brother's and that there fore fathers migrated from Benin but lost there language and culture. Imagine that.
The list continues but now lets have a review of the Great Igbo people.

Ojukwu gave the Binis an opportunity to restore the Benin empire on a better platform by creating the republic of Benin


What Ogbemudia and co did was to throw away that opportunity of working with the Biafrans to secede


Now that the Binis have realise that their destiny can't be fulfilled in Nigeria, they want to join Biafra.



I want to use this medium to advice the binis eshans urhobo isoko ishekiris etc to fight for the Resurrection of a new Benin empire and Biafra


The only way former citizens of the defunct Benin empire can be Biafrans is by doing away with the value system of monarchy and the superiority of one man over another.

Idiataqueen:
following

sammyj:
Ok

Make i mount my hollow tip here before some derailers fall in

lygn19:
Let me buttress my number 3 points with some facts before and after the civil war, before the civil war there was some attempts by the Benin people to expel the Igbo territories of the Midwest comprising of the present day anioma in exchange for the eastern Ijaws because of there fear of igbo domination, "now check out this theory if this people were Benin people why such attempts"?.... Not only that it is on record what the Benin people did to the southsouth igbos of delta state when the federal troops entered Benin, they went around pointing out every Igbo person to be killed, there criteria for pointing was as far as ur name is chukwu or Chi or as far as u are not Ijaw, urhobo, itsekiri or Isoko or Benin then u were igbo, in this killing they left behind traiks of dead bodies and husbandless women, and even orphans in there paths it was a bloody period for the Southsouth igbos.

Do you know that the Igbos who once lived in Benin empire, left the Benin empire after the prince who they supported lost the war


NO HISTORIAN HAS INVESTIGATED THE REASON WHY THE IGBOS SUPPORTED THE DEFEATED PRINCE TILL DATE

The Igbos are a group of hardworking and resilient people, though stubborn at times, the igbos have been known to be highly Republican in nature.
An Igbo man hardly supports injustice and can fight his own brother just because of the right cause, history attests to that; our number one Igbo man in this regard is no other than king Jaja of opobo.
"Jaja of Opobo (full name: Jubo Jubogha; 1821–1891) was a merchant prince and the founder of Opobo city-state in an area that is now part of Nigeria. Born in Umuduruoha,Amaigbo,[citation needed] in Igboland, he was sold at about the age of twelve as a slave inBonny. Jumo Jumofe later took the name "Jaja" for his dealings with the British.

Jaja proved his aptitude for business at an early age, earning his way out of slavery; he was enculturated according to Ijaw (Ibani) rituals and eventually established himself as head of the Anna Pepple House. Under Jaja's leadership, Anna Pepple soon absorbed a number of Bonny's other trade houses until an ongoing dispute with the Manilla Pepple House led by Oko Jumbo forced Jaja to break away as Opobo city-state in 1869"
today opobo is a city which still maintains its Ijawness despite being ruled by an Igbo man and all the lies that fky about saying Igbos want to dominate others, Jaja an Igbo man served the Ijaws to a grave extent of even fighting off his fellow igbos that were hinterland.
If the lies flying around about igbos were true, why didn't he go and set up an Ohaneze in opobo and declare opobo as part of igbo land.
Facts can never lie, now compare this to the brothers who are living other pretense from Edo state that the only little opportunity they had they used it to terrorize neighboring states.

EasternLeopard:



Do you know that the Igbos who once lived in Benin empire, left the Benin empire after the prince who they supported lost the war


NO HISTORIAN HAS INVESTIGATED THE REASON WHY THE IGBOS SUPPORTED THE DEFEATED PRINCE TILL DATE

who told u this.

Say

cc: atbu1983, spanishkid, edcure, laudate, enahi, martha89, aim5, sandraokosun and the rest please prove me wrong about the greed of an average Edo person.

lygn19:
The Igbos are a group of hardworking and resilient people, though stubborn at times, the igbos have been known to be highly Republican in nature.
An Igbo man hardly supports injustice and can fight his own brother just because of the right cause, history attests to that; our number one Igbo man in this regard is no other than king Jaja of opobo.
"Jaja of Opobo (full name: Jubo Jubogha; 1821–1891) was a merchant prince and the founder of Opobo city-state in an area that is now part of Nigeria. Born in Umuduruoha,Amaigbo,[citation needed] in Igboland, he was sold at about the age of twelve as a slave inBonny. Jumo Jumofe later took the name "Jaja" for his dealings with the British.

Jaja proved his aptitude for business at an early age, earning his way out of slavery; he was enculturated according to Ijaw (Ibani) rituals and eventually established himself as head of the Anna Pepple House. Under Jaja's leadership, Anna Pepple soon absorbed a number of Bonny's other trade houses until an ongoing dispute with the Manilla Pepple House led by Oko Jumbo forced Jaja to break away as Opobo city-state in 1869"
today opobo is a city which still maintains its Ijawness despite being ruled by an Igbo man and all the lies that fky about saying Igbos want to dominate others, Jaja an Igbo man served the Ijaws to a grave extent of even fighting off his fellow igbos that were hinterland.
If the lies flying around about igbos were true, why didn't he go and set up an Ohaneze in opobo and declare opobo as part of igbo land.
Facts can never lie, now compare this to the brothers who are living other pretense from Edo state that the only little opportunity they had they used it to terrorize neighboring states.

The oil of the Igbos is what makes the lamp of the Ijaws brighter.


Unfortunately people like Tonyebarcanista don't know this fact otherwise he won't have written that trash on Ipob he wrote days ago



I repeat to all who cares to know



We Igbos are the Joseph of Black Africa



Those who love us and accept us shall partake in our divine blessing those who hate us shall never




The great Benin empire flourished when Igbos were accepted into the empire but declined when Igbos left



Binis check your history and you will realise that Benin empire declined after we left.

lygn19:

who told u this.

Check their history

Lol is every Edolite now Benin? Who told you Spanishkid is from there and when have you see me in any Biafra topic.

martha89:
Lol is every Edolite now Benin? Who told you Spanishkid is from there and when have you see me in any Biafra topic.

Edo or not Benin or not one thing connects u all and that is greed.

lygn19:
This thread is dedicated to those who gain joy by causing disharmony and sowing seeds of hatred in people where non exist.


Nigeria is a country located in the African continent, it's located in the west African sub region close to the Equator and lies between latitude and longitude 4 to14 degrees north and 3 to 15 degrees east.
It is a very diverse country with people with different culture, way of lives, religion and tribe.
We have the hausa/fulanis making the majority tribe in the north, the yorubas making the majority tribe in the west and the igbos making the majority tribe in the east, plus other ethilnic groups like Kanuri, nupe, igala, idoma, ijaw, oron, benin, itsekiri etc.
I want to compare between two ethnic groups, its people and there history.
The Great Benin people of the mid west and the Great Igbos of Eastern Nigeria.

Igbos are not nigerians
They are Biafrans
They also have nothing in common with benin people

theDEVILisHERE:


Igbos are not nigerians
They are Biafrans
They also have nothing in common with benin people

am igbo and am not Biafran, do u have a problem with that?

EasternLeopard:
Ojukwu gave the Binis an opportunity to restore the Benin empire on a better platform by creating the republic of Benin


What Ogbemudia and co did was to throw away that opportunity of working with the Biafrans to secede


Now that the Binis have realise that their destiny can't be fulfilled in Nigeria, they want to join Biafra.



I want to use this medium to advice the binis eshans urhobo isoko ishekiris etc to fight for the Resurrection of a new Benin empire and Biafra


The only way former citizens of the defunct Benin empire can be Biafrans is by doing away with the value system of monarchy and the superiority of one man over another.

The benin empire cannot and should never be
Biafrans
They can be close alies to Biafra but cannot. Be Biafrans
The biafra should be for Biafrans (we all know who they are) as well as individuals (not groups) that have been accepted to be biafrans

This is very important

lygn19:

am igbo and am not Biafran, do u have a problem with that?

No
No one has a problem with you if you choose not to be a Biafra
But
Igbos are Biafrans not "Nigga slaves within an area" aka Nigerians

lygn19:
cc: atbu1983, spanishkid, edcure, laudate, enahi, martha89, aim5, sandraokosun and the rest please prove me wrong about the greed of an average Edo person.

You're not well at all.

lygn19:

Edo or not Benin or not one thing connects u all and that is greed.

You're talking about Edos being greedy? Well there are greedy people in every ethnic group. You're Igbo and you're telling that Edos are greedy when Edo people have been accommodating towards all ethnic groups who reside in Edo. Talking about greed when Igbos are arguably the most vain, shallow and domineering group in Nigeria. SMH.

aim5:


You're talking about Edos being greedy? Well there are greedy people in every ethnic group. You're Igbo and you're telling that Edos are greedy when Edo people have been accommodating towards all ethnic groups who reside in Edo. Talking about greed when Igbos are arguably the most vain, shallow and domineering group in Nigeria. SMH.

keep giving urself false hope.

I am more interested in the history of esan people because those people look so much like igbos, except that they don't speak the language.

When I see a Bini person, I easily identify the person. Likewise, ijaw, urhobo, itshekiri, Yoruba or Hausa. But once I see esans, I mistake them for Igbo's. It has happened to me severally.

So, I will like to read a clear history of esans.

Uniben4sure:
I am more interested in the history of esan people because those people look so much like igbos, except that they don't speak the language.

When I see a Bini person, I easily identify the person. Likewise, ijaw, urhobo, itshekiri, Yoruba or Hausa. But once I see esans, I mistake them for Igbo's. It has happened to me severally.

So, I will like to read a clear history of esans.

all are d same...

lygn19:
(1) trying to rewrite there history with the grand plan of making the gullible ones beleive they are from Benin.

No Benin person is telling any apparent Igbo person they are from Benin, it is the so called Igbo people themselves from Onitsha to Agbor that point at least some of their ancestry to Benin, which is partly true, while another minority deny being Igbo entirely which is without any Benin or Bini intervention whatsoever. So called 'Igbo deniers' should accept responsibility for themselves.

lygn19:

all are d same...

I doubt because they don't look alike.

Sometimes I feel that those esans are displaced igbos. I stand to be corrected though.

Uniben4sure:
I am more interested in the history of esan people because those people look so much like igbos, except that they don't speak the language.

When I see a Bini person, I easily identify the person. Likewise, ijaw, urhobo, itshekiri, Yoruba or Hausa. But once I see esans, I mistake them for Igbo's. It has happened to me severally.

So, I will like to read a clear history of esans.

I am Esan. we share boundary with Anioma people of Delta state. You even have Ekpon who are both Esan and Anioma at d same time. They are bilingual. Most of the migrant from Benin Empire that form most of d today Anioma are esan. That is why Esan, ika, ukwuani and other Anioma people look alike.

Esan are descendant of Bini.