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Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 7:54pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
lexiconkabir: What is the punishment for adultery in the quran? 100 lashes, man and woman (Quran 24:2). Imprison till death (Quran 4:15). Stone to death: Ibn Ishaq (970) - "The adulterer must be stoned." These words were a part of Muhammad's farewell address to his people on the occasion of his final pilgrimage to Mecca. Bukhari (6:60:79) Two people guilty of "illegal" intercourse are brought to Muhammad, who orders them both stoned to death. Bukhari (83:37) - Adultery is one of three justifications for killing a person, according to Muhammad. Allah and Muhammad were confused what do to adulterer. What a religion! 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 8:45pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
truthman2012: Rape in the Bible Deuteronomy Chapter 22 verse 25: “25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die” Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days. on says the rapist will die the other says the rapist shall marry the victim Wow! Your assignemt for now Thanks. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 9:10pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: That you THINK there is an error in the Bible is the reason you are not fit to explain the discrepancy in the quran? But you muslims say islam has been perfected, why are there so many discrepancies in the quran? I tell you the truth the quran is full of errors. Looking up at the words I have typed in capital letters in your biblical quotes, I don't think I need much explanation to make again. One is BETROTHED and the other is not BETROTHED, so God said their judgement is not the same. Now, it is your turn to answer my question, why is allahh and Muhammad not sure of what to do to adulterers. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 9:27pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
Muslims, do you notice none of you have addressed the question: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad for allahh to have mercy on him if he has already received mercy ? Do people pray for what they have got ? Why was allahh praying to remove Muhammad from darkness if he was the one to answer the prayer? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 9:46pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
truthman2012: calm.down baba. which discrepancy are u talking about in the Quran because what u were trying to bank on was that the Quran has a law with which the hadith prescribes something else. How has the hadith and the Quran become the same. So many nations has their different laws today. And as per that law it was derived from the nature, conditions and circumstance that warrants it. The law for defamation in Egypt is not thesame as the one in Qatar. So Muhammed isn't contradicting Allah. As there are alternative laws with which the affairs of a state can be governed. So far the law is not against just and fairness it is then permissible. Now to that assignment which I brought out for u. you try as much as possible to cover up your delusion but you can't just go with certain things. vir·gin ˈvərjən noun 1. a person who has never had sexual intercourse. synonyms: chaste woman/man, celibate; More 2. a person who is naive, innocent, or inexperienced, especially in a particular context. "a political virgin" be·trothed bəˈtrōT͟Hd, bəˈtrôTHd noun the person to whom one is engaged. en·gaged inˈɡājd, enˈɡājd/ adjective 1. busy; occupied. "I told him I was otherwise engaged" synonyms: busy, occupied, unavailable; informaltied up "he's otherwise engaged" 2. having formally agreed to marry. synonyms: betrothed, promised in marriage Where here does it mean that a bethrothed lady is not a virgin? does someone engaged translates to someone being married? Engaged is just as simple as being committed to someone that you shall be married to the person not that you're married to the person. also remember that if a lady is found not a Virgin during her marriage the law is that she be stoned to death. Deuteronomy Chapter 22 verses 15 and forward; [b]“15 Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: 16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; 17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. 18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; 19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. 20 But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: 21 Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the LovePeddler in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you. 22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.[/b]. Betherothed or a not. Both are assumed as virgins! so Mr man bring forth more excuses. Thanks. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 10:20pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Firstly, look up and see the latest questions I extracted from the OP, which all of you are looking away from. Why? There is a vital difference between a virgin that is BETROTHED and the one NOT BETROTHED. The person who raped a betrothed virgin cheated the man to whom she is betrothed but the man who raped a virgin who is not betrothed cheated no man, so having defied the virgin he has to marry her. I noticed what you have said tryind to defend allahh's and muhammad's confusion is a lie. Apart from the hadiths, there is a discrepancy between the two quranic verses. One verse says 100 stripes for both man and woman, the other says imprisonment till death. The quran is in conflict with itself. So clear!!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 11:51pm On Oct 29, 2015 |
truthman2012: listen. Quran 24:2 says The [unmarried] woman or [unmarried] man found guilty of sexual intercourse - lash each one of them with a hundred lashes, and do not be taken by pity for them in the religion of Allah , if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment. Quran 4:15 says as for those of your women who commit unlawful sexual intercourse - bring against them four [witnesses] from among you. And if they testify, confine the guilty women to houses until death takes them or Allah ordains for them [another] way. were you blind to see the first was Unmarried Women and Men and the latter is for "women" that are married. Your haste to paint Islam in the bad light has blinded you hence you couldn't see that. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by madjnr: 6:32am On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:Thumbs up 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by ProfessorPeter(m): 7:11am On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi:but your quran says Jesus didn't die. Why a person that did not die go to hell? You are contradicting yourself 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 7:51am On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Why must you lie to defend islam? Which translation of the quran 24:2 did you see ''unmarried'' man and unmarried woman? [ Pickthal 24:2 ] The adulterer and the adulteress, scourge ye each one of them (with) a hundred stripes. And let not pity for the twain withhold you from obedience to Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day. And let a party of believers witness their punishment. [ Yusufali 24:2 ] The woman and the man guilty of adultery or fornication,- flog each of them with a hundred stripes: Let not compassion move you in their case, in a matter prescribed by Allah, if ye believe in Allah and the Last Day: STOP LYING! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 11:57am On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: you have a big problem. who's the lier here me or u?? smh lieman2012. Quran 24:2 case refers to an unmarried man or woman. Lieman!!!! [url]corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=24&verse=2[/url] 1 Like
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Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 1:04pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Okay, back to the real issue in the OP: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad for allahh to have mercy on him if he has already received mercy ? Do people pray for what they have got ? Why was allahh praying to remove Muhammad from darkness if he was the one to answer the prayer? Answer the questions. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 1:52pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: 1- Muhammad has received mercy and we praying for him doesn't anyway means he hasn't received mercy. this is only done to Honour and respect and Actually it is a way of getting blessing from Allah. simply because whoever says S.A.W.S (sallalahu àlayhi Wa sallam) which means peace be upon him to the prophet, the angels shall pray for the person in return. so the favour is actually on us if nobody prays for him, it doesnt stop him from being forever blessed. Mind you this honour is for all the prophets of Islam. not only Muhammad. All prophets of Islam. so your point of focusing on Muhammad only shows your bias attitude towards Islam. Just as we praise God and Hail him, is God not Great or Mighty at first? how does our praises make him less mighty? Mind you it is Peace be upon him not Mercy be upon him. Correct your goof there. Also, why does the xtians bless Jesus name?? Was his name not blessed before ? because with your negative way of reason if i have to take the approach which u took. Jesus name was then not blessed for xtians to be blessing his name. 2- are you okay?? where in the Quran or Hadith was it written that Muhammad will answer any prayer Just show me. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 3:03pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Friend, you are mixing up things here. SAW (sallalahu àlayhi Wa sallam) is blessing Muhammad, a copy of Christians blessing Jesus. But the difference is that it is a MUST to bless Muhammad in islam, not just a respect, in fact Muhammad cursed anyone that mentions his name without blessing him. Therefore blessing him is as a result of a CURSE. "The Messenger of Allah ﷺ said, May he be humiliated, the man in whose presence I am mentioned and he does not send Salah upon me; Fiqh Us Sunnah 4.138 and Tirmidhi , Tuhfat al Ahwadhi 9:531 The concluding part of islamic routine (solat) has nothing to do with blessing or praising Muhammad, it is actually BEGING allahh to have mercy on him: O god! Have mercy on Muhammad and on his descendants, as you had mercy on Abraham and on his descendants.” The simple interpretation of that is, Abraham and his descendants (excluding Muhammad) had mercy and praying for Muhammad to come into their category. If Muhammad had gotten mercy already you will not be beging for allahh's mercy on him in your solat five times in a day and everyday. Period. Beging for mercy for Muhammad is a serious thing in islam and that is why it forms a part of solat (i.e islamic prayer). 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 4:42pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: we dont beg mercy for him. We pray that peace be upon him. and we do it to all our prohpets! how may time will I say this?? are you that daft and have not the sense to reason see my early post on that.. |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 6:19pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Jihadist (terrorist), how can you say you don't beg for mercy for him when it is so clear you do? O god! Have MERCY on Muhammad and on his descendants, as you had MERCY on Abraham and on his descendants.” Are you denying you don't recite that in your solat? 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 6:33pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: Allahummo salli alaa Muhammad kamaa sollayta alaa seyyidnaa Ibrahim Wa alaa aali seyyidnaa Ibrahim. Oh Allah make thy BLESSING be upon Muhammad just as you BLESSED Abraham and his companions. Blessing not Mercy! Daft oldfool. why do u like lying na. you kept changing everything all these while. Lieman oshi |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 7:22pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Why are you so much annoyed na? Look at this again: [Quran 33:43] ''He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the DEPTH OF DARKNES into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the believers'' This shows the blessing you bless Muhammad is not for respect but a prayer to save him from trouble (DARKNESS). Both allahh and his angels bless (pray) to remove him from DARKNESS. As he is in darkness so, doesn't he need MERCY? If your greatest prophet is in DARKNESS and needs prayer (blessing) to remove him, no doubt all muslims are also in total darkness unless yout want to claim you are better than him. HOW COULD GOD'S TRUE PROPHET BE IN DEPTH OF DARKNESS? HOW WAS HE DIFFERENT FROM THE PEOPLE HE WAS SUPPOSED TO GUIDE? 3 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 8:16pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: your problem is that when a verse is beyond your level of comprehension you're in haste to think that you have point If I may ask you, by your level of intelligence. Darkness as used in that verse means what? the Midst, problems, troubles of the Disbelievers! give me your own understanding of the word Darkness as Used in that verse and then I will know my next decision. This is meant to make the Muslims realize this: The jealousy and malice of the disbelievers and hypocrites towards us is only due to the mercy that Allah has shown us through His Messenger (peace be upon him). It is through him that we have been blessed with the faith, that we have come out from the darkness of unbelief and ignorance of the disbelievers into the light of Islam, that we have developed the high moral and social qualities by virtue of which we stand distinguished above others. It is this which has filled the jealous people with malice and rage against the Messenger (peace be upon him) of Allah. However, in this state we should not adopt any unbecoming attitude which might alienate us from the mercy of Allah. The word Salat when used with the preposition ala by Allah in respect of the servants, it means mercy and kindness and compassion and when used by the angels in respect of the human beings, it means the prayer for mercy. That is, the angels pray to Allah to bless the human beings with His bounty and favors. Another meaning of yusalli alaikum is: Allah blesses Muhammad with renown among the people and exalts him to a high rank so that the people begin to pray for blessings on him and the angels begin to eulogize him. Quran 21:108 And We have sent thee not but as a mercy for all peoples. Quran 33:57 Allah and His angels send blessings on the Prophet. O ye who believe! you also should invoke blessings on him and salute him with the salutation of peace The favour is ours Ultimately. By the way. I have a question for you. Why do chriatains always bless Jesus name. If Jesus name has to be blessed too, Jesus is definitely on misfortune for Christians to be blessing his name. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 8:50pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Total trash!! All you have stated is the quran contradicting itself. The Devil is very tricky and clever and it is a pity that muslims have been hypnotized. THE QURAN WOULD SAY SOMETHING IS BLACK IN ONE VERSE AND STILL SAY THE SAME THING IS WHITE IN ANOTHER. The character of the Devil is deception. Quran 33:43] ''He it is Who sends blessings on you, as do His angels, that He may bring you out from the DEPTH OF DARKNES into Light: and He is Full of Mercy to the believers'' No matter what definition you give to DARKNESS, the TRUTH remains Muhammad was in it and allahh and his angels are praying to remove him. Darkness cannot mean anything good by any definition. If it is anything good allahh would not be praying to remove him from it. HOW COULD A TRUE PROPHET BE IN DEPTH OF DARKNESS? 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by mubarakopeyemi(m): 8:58pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: I have wondered why my people has decided to ignore you. Your ignorance is Legendary. Bred by your hate for Islam. At this juncture i cant waste more energy explaining and explaining again tou you because youre programmed to disagree. No amount of explanation can make you agree. That's how deep you are in the delusion. You can continue to wallow in it Do I seem Fazed?? But this is for u. My last Legacy on this.
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Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by plappville(f): 10:31pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: This means muhammed is not even Abraham's descendant. See how they persistently contradict themselves. ... . As you had merci on his descendants. ... waoh.. thank God Muhammad was never Abraham's Descendant. So much Problem in the koran... 4 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by plappville(f): 10:35pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: As usual, when the bone hocked his throat. All he does is throw insults. Why don't you look for boko harm and join them..? You must be a good tool for them... 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by plappville(f): 10:44pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Come back here where you dey run go abo.ki malam salut. ..? . The OP has asked you crucial questions you are even dulging them. See how we get new contradictions each day in NL... so the koran that claimed Muhammad (sbuh) is a descendant of Ishmael is now saying Muhammad is from a different Descendant ? If he is Truely a Descendant of Abraham through Ishmael according to coran. Why is Abraham's blessings not ascribed to him? Waoh....OP you are doing a good job. BRAVO!! 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by plappville(f): 10:55pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: Ask me ooo, they keep blind eyes. Muhammad is the man Satan has used to fight against the Gospel of Jesus Christ. But he is going to fail. Because Jesus has promised this will fail. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 11:03pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
plappville: You are very correct, Muhammad was not a descendant of Abraham. Islam is total FALSEHOOD. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by plappville(f): 11:10pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: They rush in creating thread without proper research of their. Most of thier thread s reveal more contradictions. When they see its beyond thier power, they throw insults.. just look at this Grave errors. .. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 11:10pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
mubarakopeyemi: Your people didn't ignore me, it is just that they couldn't come up with your type of lies. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by truthman2012(m): 11:17pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
plappville: They cannot but throw insults because inside their heart dwells the spirit of terrorism. There are ample evidences that muhammad was the chief terrorist. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by Kudducini(m): 11:22pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
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Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by parisbookaddict(f): 11:23pm On Oct 30, 2015 |
truthman2012: Excellent reply.. the muslim mubarakopeyemi will always throw distractions rather than face the questions in his unholy filthy quran 2 Likes |
Re: Why Do Muslims Pray For Muhammad's Salvation? by plappville(f): 1:35am On Oct 31, 2015 |
truthman2012: They ran from your tough questions. @Empiree couldnt answer éd why allah cannot save pilgrims in the safest and holiest site of Islam. Yet the coran claimed. .they are safe. In security. I see, in death means safty. ... 2 Likes |
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