johnydon22:

Oh so did Nostradamus and the bible too.. these events said to be prophesized have all being happening even before your prophets.. You are just linking events to mean prophecy of your prophet to instigate correctness.. Thats another claim.

Let me make my own prophecy now.:
" Soon a great ram will fight another ram and the world will hear about it"

Sometimes two countries will fight, then surely my prophecy of two great rams fighting must be said to have come to pass..



Oh the enlarged is so so true and is a very good one at that. . . there are many things we cannot provide proof for or against their existentiality and i see no reason why we should assume since we don't know..

You cannot prove if a flying diamond horned Cow exists or if there is a house of clear cut diamond somewhere, neither can you disprove there is..

I absolutely see no reason why you should then assume there is...

But if you ever assert there is then you must be ready to provide empirical substantiation for your claim

abduljabbar4:


Well, you see, as much as i believe there is God, Allah, i have to confess there is no way i or anybody can really convince you about His existence if you are not ready to believe but you can also not prove that He doesnt exist.

So its all about belief.

Since you dont believe in His existence, its ur own cup of tea na. I see no reason for this argument. The christians think they are always right thats why you frequently end up arguing with christians alone

malvisguy212:
alright. So please stop misinterpreting the christian faith. Ask questions what you do not know, if I cannot answer , some of my christians brethren may answer. Peace!

johnydon22:


As a matter of fact the onus remains on the claimant not the one who doubts the claim..

I might claim to believe or even assert i have a flying blue diamond dog tied to the back of my door now..

You only have to disbelieve me not produce proof that i don't, Because honestly you can''t provide proof that i don't have the flying diamond dog.

The weight and responsibility is on me who is claiming to own such a dog to provide proof of it, if i can't then it remains an unfounded claim and so tantamount to nothing in actuality..



Exactly the point and it is also ok to point out to you that BELIEF doesn't make anything true anymore than not believing it makes it a lie.

That i believe there is a white tea pot filled with hot coffee orbiting Neptune right now doesn't make it true.



I have always noticed muslims to be quite reserved about engaging atheists on this board, they don't open threads to bash atheists or dabble into threads that takes an atheistic tilt but christians always does that at the end of the day end up crying that they are victims of atheistic attacks.

Like Malvisguy who took this thread as an attack on his religion when the thread never mentioned any religion or specific God concept as a basis of point

johnydon22:

I have many times discussed with theistic people both religious and irreligious and many times have been about the existence of God or Gods.

One thing is very clear, all the arguments i have seen from the believers side is always banked on "IGNORANCE of men"

This line of argument not only is it shallow has also betrayed a sort of incuriosity in ascertaining empirically the actuality of these events of phenomenas man has not yet known or explained.

You see something like.

- How was the world created? Since you can't explain it then God did it..

herald9:

shooo! This is ridiculous!

Satan have been reported many times in the bible to have sat over a bottle of beer with your god in heaven, discussing the fate of humans... Such as in the story of Job.

So if Satan could see your god, see all his acclaimed glories and communicated one on one with him but still became an atheist... YOU HAVE EVERY REASON TO BE WORRIED!

HCpaul:
I believe that you are independent of God, but i don't think that you are independent of the devil.

At some level, satan is also an athiest.

Jonnydon! Why did you believe what the bible says and you still claim that there is no God.

The bible talked about the earth and you believed it.

The bible talked about death and you believed in it because you see people dying.


Keep decieving yourself. You are not an athiest but a backslider.

Have never seen bill gate quoting the scripture, and yet he is an athiest.

Challenging the saints with the scripture is a manifestation of loosing one salvation.
You was once found but lost.

BETATRON:
what's this one saying?? Address the issue and stop barking,,that's the first sign of defeat

kingkaspa:
I am not misinterpreting any Christian faith. The OP never mention any specific religion.

abduljabbar4:

What air did you clear in that stup!d post?

UyiIredia:


People were right since they rightly saw that there was an invisible realm that governed the physical realm. They were right since ultimately all things in the world were caused (good or bad) by God. Now they were wrong about lot of things eg spontaneous generation but that didn't mean they didn't make inquiries. We are talking about people who established agriculture, civilizations, writing etc.

tosyne2much:
An article like this can lure someone into believing there's no God


As for me, any article that talks about the inexistence of God, is a bull crap to me

tosyne2much:
An article like this can lure someone into believing there's no God



As for me, any article that talks about the inexistence of God, is a bull crap to me

johnydon22:


Hahahahaha nice and noble sentiment but am sure the post was not about the existence or inexistence of any God..

hahn:


Apparently, you don't understand what was written there. That is if you even read it

tosyne2much:
Make I no lie, I no read the write-up

tosyne2much:
Hahaha


You won't believe I didn't even read before commenting

hahn:

Obviously
Cc: johnnydon22

johnydon22:


Lol..

It's not a surprise, many people on Niaraland don't read the post before commenting, they just read the topic and the comments..

johnydon22:


Lol..

It's not a surprise, many people on Niaraland don't read the post before commenting, they just read the topic and the comments..

tosyne2much:
no mind me jawe


You know the write-up is voluminous

Am sure it's worth reading, you can give it a try and if you have an argument against it worth discussing. i'd really love to hear it and possibly engage ...

tosyne2much:
no mind me jawe


You know the write-up is voluminous

HCpaul:


Animals of the same mentality.
What is nice about the write up? Silly...

HCpaul:


You may call me a fool, but i know what am doing.

The bible said that God uses the foolish things of this world to comfound the wise.

Your wisdom can still send you to hell.

Let us not use our ignorance as a butter to eat unfounded assumptions.... - Johnydon22

Feraz:

You know, it is responses like these that make people tag Christians like us fanatics.

hahn:


Typical of johnydon22. His comments on some threads are enough to start another thread entirely

Fortunately, he makes sense

I will stop commenting on threads then

KingEbukasBlog:


Some atheists peddle Evolution as science and cannot explain why we evolved certain features instead it is seen or described as an 'evolutionary need' - evolution-of-the-gaps also known as "evolution did it ". Should we call them ignorant too ?

Please I need an honest "yes" or "no" answer and then your reason . Thanks bro

ValentineMary:
I would have ignored u but I can't stand seeing such ignorance due to religion. Evolution is not a person that does things, it is a gradual process of adaptation and modification. If we were arguing on evolution 50 years ago, I would tell u that I have no proof of it but in 2015, there is more than enough proof to show that Darwin was right. First of all archeological findings of animals inbetween apes and humans (either homo erectus, homo nadalis) but these animals are no longer in existence and moreover they are neither ape nor man. So where did they go? "Evolution did it".
Have u ever wondered why penicilin no longer kills malaria? let me explain 4 u. Penicilin desrupts the enzyme serine protease glycopeptide transferase which is essential in cell plasma synthesis of Plasmodium Falciparium. But after some years, the plasmodium Falciparium discovered an altrnative pathway to making plasma membrane thus passing this procedure to their offspring through DNA. This is a good example of modification and adoration. So my dear u obviously have a lot of reading to do before u assume that ur deity did it.

abduljabbar4:
Even though im a Muslim, i think the op won this argument. But take for example, prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) gave us signs of end time and many other things that were not existing during his time and now we are seeing it and many other things. Both the christians and the op are only wasting their time. None of you can provide a clear evidence of whether God exists or not. Its all about belief

johnydon22:

First evolution is a Scientific theory..



I have read the evolutionary mechanism and find it to be quite drastically different from what both you and most atheists on this board make it out to be.

Many have taken evolutionary theory as an immutable dogma that must be believed in the explanation of human development and therefore tend to lean towards evolution as a form of belief instead of a scientific enquiry...



On the part of many on this board "Yes" it is used as another dogma to replace religious dogmas and distanced from what it actually is which is Subject of scientific enquiry..

donnffd:


Hi johnydon22, nice writeup but I think u ar confused about evolution. Evolution is a scientific fact, all manner of studies says so including genetics,

what is the theory is the mechanisms of evolution...

That's why it's called the theory of evolution BY Natural selection and that is the best explanation so far of how organisms evolved from other organisms