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Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by abduljabbar4(m): 6:01pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
johnydon22: Well, you see, as much as i believe there is God, Allah, i have to confess there is no way i or anybody can really convince you about His existence if you are not ready to believe but you can also not prove that He doesnt exist. So its all about belief. Since you dont believe in His existence, its ur own cup of tea na. I see no reason for this argument. The christians think they are always right thats why you frequently end up arguing with christians alone 1 Like |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(m): 6:11pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: As a matter of fact the onus remains on the claimant not the one who doubts the claim.. I might claim to believe or even assert i have a flying blue diamond dog tied to the back of my door now.. You only have to disbelieve me not produce proof that i don't, Because honestly you can''t provide proof that i don't have the flying diamond dog. The weight and responsibility is on me who is claiming to own such a dog to provide proof of it, if i can't then it remains an unfounded claim and so tantamount to nothing in actuality..
Exactly the point and it is also ok to point out to you that BELIEF doesn't make anything true anymore than not believing it makes it a lie. That i believe there is a white tea pot filled with hot coffee orbiting Neptune right now doesn't make it true.
I have always noticed muslims to be quite reserved about engaging atheists on this board, they don't open threads to bash atheists or dabble into threads that takes an atheistic tilt but christians always does that at the end of the day end up crying that they are victims of atheistic attacks. Like Malvisguy who took this thread as an attack on his religion when the thread never mentioned any religion or specific God concept as a basis of point 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by kingkaspa: 6:25pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
malvisguy212:I am not misinterpreting any Christian faith. The OP never mention any specific religion. 1 Like |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by abduljabbar4(m): 6:34pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
johnydon22: You are 100% right 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by UyiIredia(m): 6:50pm On Nov 08, 2015 |
johnydon22: People were right since they rightly saw that there was an invisible realm that governed the physical realm. They were right since ultimately all things in the world were caused (good or bad) by God. Now they were wrong about lot of things eg spontaneous generation but that didn't mean they didn't make inquiries. We are talking about people who established agriculture, civilizations, writing etc. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by Richirich713: 2:20pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
Why should God prove to us he exists, look at the fine tuning of the universe, God created work already proves he exists. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by HCpaul(m): 6:06pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
herald9: The real meaning of athiest is not a disbelief in the existence of God and the supernatural, but a desire or an attempt to be independent of God. Anyone that claim to be independent of God is an athiest. The phrase "Atheism" is just a metaphor for unbelief. Athiest are unbelievers, and no unbelievers shall inherit the kingdom of Heaven. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by BETATRON(m): 6:29pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
HCpaul:what's this one saying?? Address the issue and stop barking,,that's the first sign of defeat |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by HCpaul(m): 7:32pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
BETATRON:by their fruit we shall know them. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by malvisguy212: 8:21pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
kingkaspa:alright. abduljabbar4:can you provide a verse in the bible were God indicate, we are to believe without questions? |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:53pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
UyiIredia: This is why evolution theory is junk ." Cave men" who lacked any sense of reasoning could understand that a being who is eternal is responsible for the creation of life ? They wrote stories figuratively to relate or describe the experiences they encountered . Their "primitive writings" are still very much relevant even till today . Their architectural works -in Greece , India , Egypt name it- are really astounding . As you said they had established agriculture , civilizations , writings . And merchandise across continents . Primitive men ? I think not . 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by tosyne2much(m): 11:10am On Nov 10, 2015 |
An article like this can lure someone into believing there's no God As for me, any article that talks about the inexistence of God, is a bull crap to me 3 Likes |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(m): 11:15am On Nov 10, 2015 |
tosyne2much: Hahahahaha nice and noble sentiment but am sure the post was not about the existence or inexistence of any God.. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by hahn(m): 11:47am On Nov 10, 2015 |
tosyne2much: Apparently, you don't understand what was written there. That is if you even read it |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by tosyne2much(m): 1:13pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22:Hahaha You won't believe I didn't even read before commenting |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by tosyne2much(m): 1:13pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:Make I no lie, I no read the write-up |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by hahn(m): 1:19pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(m): 2:00pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
tosyne2much: hahn: Lol.. It's not a surprise, many people on Niaraland don't read the post before commenting, they just read the topic and the comments.. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by hahn(m): 2:10pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22: Tell me about it Some don't even read their own comments |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by tosyne2much(m): 2:11pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
johnydon22:no mind me jawe You know the write-up is voluminous |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(m): 2:17pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
tosyne2much: Am sure it's worth reading, you can give it a try and if you have an argument against it worth discussing. i'd really love to hear it and possibly engage ... 1 Like |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by hahn(m): 2:19pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
tosyne2much: Typical of johnydon22. His comments on some threads are enough to start another thread entirely Fortunately, he makes sense |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by Feraz(m): 2:40pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
HCpaul: HCpaul:You know, it is responses like these that make people tag Christians like us fanatics. Let us not use our ignorance as a butter to eat unfounded assumptions.... - Johnydon22 5 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by HCpaul(m): 2:50pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
Feraz:But sometimes, we have to rebuke this people before they listen. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by tosyne2much(m): 5:05pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
hahn:I will stop commenting on threads then |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by Nobody: 5:38pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
This is ishhhhh |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by byteHead(m): 6:36pm On Nov 10, 2015 |
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Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by ValentineMary(m): 8:49pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
KingEbukasBlog:I would have ignored u but I can't stand seeing such ignorance due to religion. Evolution is not a person that does things, it is a gradual process of adaptation and modification. If we were arguing on evolution 50 years ago, I would tell u that I have no proof of it but in 2015, there is more than enough proof to show that Darwin was right. First of all archeological findings of animals inbetween apes and humans (either homo erectus, homo nadalis) but these animals are no longer in existence and moreover they are neither ape nor man. So where did they go? "Evolution did it". Have u ever wondered why penicilin no longer kills malaria? let me explain 4 u. Penicilin desrupts the enzyme serine protease glycopeptide transferase which is essential in cell plasma synthesis of Plasmodium Falciparium. But after some years, the plasmodium Falciparium discovered an altrnative pathway to making plasma membrane thus passing this procedure to their offspring through DNA. This is a good example of modification and adoration. So my dear u obviously have a lot of reading to do before u assume that ur deity did it. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by KingEbukasBlog(m): 8:52pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
ValentineMary: Evolution of the gaps ? We can't explain why but we are sure evolution did it - DOGMA . Thanks for confirming that |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by Joshthefirst(m): 11:32pm On Nov 15, 2015 |
abduljabbar4:No body needs to provide any sort of evidence of whether God exists, because its encoded in our consciousness that he exists. it is also encoded in us that he is the one who created what we see around us. the creator is proof of the creation. simple. I now firmly believe it is a useless endeavor to go around trying to prove God's existence. Let us focus on other issues, like exposing the flaws and illogic idiosyncrasies of irrational beliefs instead of chasing our tails on the obvious issues of Gods existence. |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by donnffd(m): 6:49am On Nov 18, 2015 |
johnydon22: Hi johnydon22, nice writeup but I think u ar confused about evolution. Evolution is a scientific fact, all manner of studies says so including genetics, what is the theory is the mechanisms of evolution... That's why it's called the theory of evolution BY Natural selection and that is the best explanation so far of how organisms evolved from other organisms |
Re: God(s) And Our Ignorance by johnydon22(m): 7:16am On Nov 18, 2015 |
donnffd: Maybe you should have checked the meaning of Theory.. Theories are accepted principles or set of principles that explains an observed fact or facts.. evolution theory is a theory that explains the facts of natural selection, mutation and adaptation mechanism in the development of biological organisms..
Evolutionary mechanisms or should i say trend is far more complex than people make it out to be. Here people make it out to be a form of chain-like pattern of transition which it is not, it entails a complex more like a web-like pattern of biological distinctions and development.. Good.. 1 Like 1 Share |
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