malvisguy212:
who make the rules? You or the Holy spirit?

This thread is for people who want to be able to open their Bibles and be able to comprehend what is written therein. It is not very easy to understand the prophets because they did not speak plainly, they spoke most times figuratively. Your literal Bibles are all fake.

I am showing the people who are interested in the Bible how to read it and understand it.

I am only here to provide guidance and help to the willing and ready.

You want to understand God's mind more? Those rules are for you.

You are satisfied with what you know? Just move on.

MrPresident1:


This thread is for people who want to be able to open their Bibles and be able to comprehend what is written therein. It is not very easy to understand the prophets because they did not speak plainly, they spoke most times figuratively. Your literal Bibles are all fake.

I am showing the people who are interested in the Bible how to read it and understand it.

I am only here to provide guidance and help to the willing and ready.

You want to understand God's mind more? Those rules are for you.

You are satisfied with what you know? Just move on.

alright, carefu what you interpret, it may lead to confusion.

MrPresident1:

What about beastiality?
And before I forget what about the dude who was slain for interuptus? What is hat allegorizing?

MrPresident1:


This thread is for people who want to be able to open their Bibles and be able to comprehend what is written therein. It is not very easy to understand the prophets because they did not speak plainly, they spoke most times figuratively. Your literal Bibles are all fake.

I am showing the people who are interested in the Bible how to read it and understand it.

I am only here to provide guidance and help to the willing and ready.

You want to understand God's mind more? Those rules are for you.

You are satisfied with what you know? Just move on.

M0ron, you are the one who is fake and you can't see it.

malvisguy212:
alright, carefu what you interpret, it may lead to confusion.

Bros, I don't want to create confusion, far be it from me. I just want people to get more juice from what they are reading. One rule I forgot to add is that it is GOD Himself that draws people closer to Himself, if He wants anyone to understand what I am saying, it is a small thing to do. GOD is the one who reveals knowledge.

Your admonition is well taken.

vooks:


M0ron, you are the one who is fake and you can't see it.

The fact that the nation Israel exists today makes your exegetical effort based on generalised allegorism void ab-initio.

urahara:
From the amazing old Testament check this out.

I could not agree more!!! See my reason below.

Ezekiel 26

26 And in the eleventh year, on the first day of the month [after the carrying away of King Jehoiachin], the word of the Lord came to me, saying,

2 Son of man, because Tyre has said against Jerusalem, Aha! She is broken that has been the gate of the people; she is open to me [Tyre]; I shall become full now that she is desolate and a wasteland,

3 Therefore thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Tyre, and will cause many nations to come up against you as the sea mounts up by its waves.

4 And they shall destroy the walls of Tyre and break down her towers; I will also scrape her dust from her and make her bare like the top of a rock.

5 Her island in the midst of the sea shall become a place for the spreading of nets, for I have spoken it, says the Lord God; and she shall become a prey and a spoil to the nations.

6 And Tyre’s daughters [her towns and villages on the mainland] in the level place shall be slain by the sword, and they shall know (understand and realize) that I am the Lord [the Sovereign Ruler, Who calls forth loyalty and obedient service].

7 For thus says the Lord God: Behold, I will bring from the north upon Tyre Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon, a king of kings, with horses and chariots and with horsemen and a host of many people.

8 He shall slay with the sword your daughters [the towns and villages] in the level area [on the mainland], and he shall make a fortified wall against you and cast up a siege mound against you and raise up a roof of bucklers and shields as a defense against you.

9 And he shall set his battering engines in shock against your walls, and with his axes he will break down your towers.

10 Because of the great number of [Nebuchadrezzar’s] horses, their dust will cover you; your walls [O Tyre] will shake at the noise of the horsemen and of the wagon wheels and of the chariots, when he enters into your gates as men enter into the city in whose walls there has been made a breach.

11 With the hoofs of his horses [Nebuchadrezzar] will trample all your streets; he will slay your people with the sword and your strong pillars or obelisks will fall to the ground.

12 And [your adversaries] shall make a spoil of your riches and make booty of your merchandise. And they shall break down your walls and destroy your pleasant houses, and they shall lay the stones and the timber and the very dust from your demolished city out in the midst of the water [between the island and the mainland city site to make a causeway].

13 And I will cause the noise of your songs to cease, and the sound of your lyres shall be no more heard.

14 And I will make you [Tyre] abare rock; you shall be a place upon which to spread nets; you shall never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken it, says the Lord God.

15 Thus says the Lord God to Tyre: Shall not the isles and coastlands shake at the sound of your fall when the wounded groan, when the slaughter is made in the midst of you?

16 Then all the princes of the sea shall come down from their thrones and lay aside their robes and strip off their embroidered garments; they shall clothe themselves with tremblings; they shall sit upon the ground and shall tremble every moment and be astonished at youand appalled.

17 They shall take up a lamentation over you and say to you, How you are destroyed and vanished, O renowned city that was won from the seas and inhabited by seafaring men, renowned city that was mighty on the sea, she and her inhabitants who caused their terror to fall upon all who dwell there!

18 Now the isles and coastlands tremble in the day of your fall; yes, the isles that are in the sea are troubled and dismayed at your departure.

19 For thus says the Lord God: When I make you a desolate city like the cities that are not inhabited, when I bring up the deep over you and great waters cover you,

20 Then I will thrust you down with those who descend into the pit (the place of the dead) to the people of olden times, and I will make you [Tyre] to dwell in the lower world like the places that were desolate of old, with those who go down to the pit, that you be not inhabited or shed forth your glory and renown in the land of the living.

21 I will make you a terror [bring you to a dreadful end] and you shall be no more. Though you be sought, yet you shall never be found again, says the Lord God.




......tyre is still existing with people living on it and nebucadnezzar is dead.
Nebucadnezzar failed to destroy tyre.

Ezekiel 26:14 According to Herodotus, Tyre’s history began in 2750 b.c. It was a fortified city in Joshua’s time (Josh. 19:29), and later became a great maritime commercial center (Isa. 23:. Yet Jeremiah (27:2-7; 47:4) and Ezekiel (26:3-21; 28:6-10) foretold utter destruction for Tyre, naming not less than twenty-five separate details, each of which in the following centuries came true literally.


Mathematicians have estimated, according to the “Law of Compound Probabilities,” that if a prophecy concerning a person, place, or event has twenty-five details beyond the possibility of human collusion, calculation, coincidence, and comprehension, there is only one chance in more than thirty-three and one-half million of its accidental fulfillment.

Yet Tyre’s history at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar, and then more than two centuries later at the hands of Alexander the Great, and centuries after that at the hands of the Crusaders, was the striking fulfillment of each detail of the prophets’ forecasts. No other city in the world’s history could have fulfilled them.

(Ezekiel 26:4 To prevent Nebuchadnezzar from getting her valuables, Tyre transported herself to an island a half mile out in the sea. The conqueror destroyed the city on the mainland and left. But more than two centuries later, Alexander the Great took the ruins of the old city, even scraping up the dust, and made a causeway to the island, thus fulfilling the prophecy exactly.)

The authenticity and credibility of God’s Word leaves no chance for sane denial. See footnote on Zeph. 2:7 for information about a similar fulfillment of details of Bible prophecy with regard to Palestine and to the end of Christ’s life.
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)

14. He concludes in nearly the same words as he began (Eze 26:4, 5).

built no more—fulfilled as to the mainland Tyre, under Nebuchadnezzar. The insular Tyre recovered partly, after seventy years (Isa 23:17, 18), but again suffered under Alexander, then under Antigonus, then under the Saracens at the beginning of the fourteenth century. Now its harbors are choked with sand, precluding all hope of future restoration, "not one entire house is left, and only a few fishermen take shelter in the vaults" [Maundrell]. So accurately has God's word come to pass.
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Scholar8200:
The fact that the nation Israel exists today makes your exegetical effort based on generalised allegorism void ab-initio.

You are breaking Rule Number 2.
Get this very clear, the Israelis are not the Israelites of the Bible, THE ISRAELIS ARE NOT THE ISRAELITES OF THE BIBLE! How many times do you want to be told this? You call yourself scholar and you cannot do your own personal research on the internet to connect all the dots?

Sit there and continue to blow grammar, I am sure one or two persons have started reading, making good progress deciphering the mind of God. Sit there you hear, Mr. Negro scholar.

Start reading!

MrPresident1:


You are breaking Rule Number 2.
Get this very clear, the Israelis are not the Israelites of the Bible, THE ISRAELIS ARE NOT THE ISRAELITES OF THE BIBLE! How many times do you want to be told this? You call yourself scholar and you cannot do your own personal research on the internet to connect all the dots?

Sit there and continue to blow grammar, I am sure one or two persons have started reading, making good progress deciphering the mind of God. Sit there you hear, Mr. Negro scholar.

Start reading!

And what would you say about the places in the Bible that still exist as such today having the very history in agreement to what was chronicled in the Bible? And why do the rabbis of modern day Israel refer to these things? Besides, what does the 'allegory' teach in the long list of genealogies? Google should not replace our ability to think and access situations as intelligent beings!!!

Scholar8200:

I could not agree more!!! See my reason below.


Ezekiel 26:14 According to Herodotus, Tyre’s history began in 2750 b.c. It was a fortified city in Joshua’s time (Josh. 19:29), and later became a great maritime commercial center (Isa. 23:. Yet Jeremiah (27:2-7; 47:4) and Ezekiel (26:3-21; 28:6-10) foretold utter destruction for Tyre, naming not less than twenty-five separate details, each of which in the following centuries came true literally.


Mathematicians have estimated, according to the “Law of Compound Probabilities,” that if a prophecy concerning a person, place, or event has twenty-five details beyond the possibility of human collusion, calculation, coincidence, and comprehension, there is only one chance in more than thirty-three and one-half million of its accidental fulfillment.

Yet Tyre’s history at the hands of Nebuchadnezzar, and then more than two centuries later at the hands of Alexander the Great, and centuries after that at the hands of the Crusaders, was the striking fulfillment of each detail of the prophets’ forecasts. No other city in the world’s history could have fulfilled them.

(Ezekiel 26:4 To prevent Nebuchadnezzar from getting her valuables, Tyre transported herself to an island a half mile out in the sea. The conqueror destroyed the city on the mainland and left. But more than two centuries later, Alexander the Great took the ruins of the old city, even scraping up the dust, and made a causeway to the island, thus fulfilling the prophecy exactly.)

The authenticity and credibility of God’s Word leaves no chance for sane denial. See footnote on Zeph. 2:7 for information about a similar fulfillment of details of Bible prophecy with regard to Palestine and to the end of Christ’s life.
Amplified Bible, Classic Edition (AMPC)

14. He concludes in nearly the same words as he began (Eze 26:4, 5).

built no more—fulfilled as to the mainland Tyre, under Nebuchadnezzar. The insular Tyre recovered partly, after seventy years (Isa 23:17, 18), but again suffered under Alexander, then under Antigonus, then under the Saracens at the beginning of the fourteenth century. Now its harbors are choked with sand, precluding all hope of future restoration, "not one entire house is left, and only a few fishermen take shelter in the vaults" [Maundrell]. So accurately has God's word come to pass.
biblehub.com

Tyrus is the codename for the city that is so prosperous that she gave herself to immorality. She started forming God, so God sent Nebu of Babylon to her to teach her a lesson.

Tyrus exists, the Tyrus of today, this time around, it is God Himself that will destroy this Tyrus.
Read Ezekiel 28.

Scholar8200:
And what would you say about the places in the Bible that still exist as such today having the very history in agreement to what was chronicled in the Bible? And why do the rabbis of modern day Israel refer to these things? Besides, what does the 'allegory' teach in the long list of genealogies? Google should not replace our ability to think and access situations as intelligent beings!!!

Break your words down and stop being excitable. I do not want to misunderstand you, so cool down and come across clearly.

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Jeremiah is very easy to understand using the rules I provided in the OP.

Is anyone reading?

I believe the end is here.

If you are interested in understanding Jeremiah Isaiah, Daniel etc, just indicate here and we can go through this study together

Mathew 7:7