The Trinitarians are in error! Because:

There are two Beings mentioned in John 17:3.

First is " The Only True God".

Second is " Jesus Christ whom God sent".

Jesus Christ is not "The Only True God".

John 17:3
"This is eternal life, that they should know you, the only true God, and him whom you sent, Jesus Christ".

Therefore,
Jesus Christ stated clearly that He has a God over Him.
Jesus Said; "I AM ASCENDING TO MY GOD and your God."
John 20:17.

We tell them dem no go gree

My father left Christianity to Judaism solely because of this reason. The concept doesn't make sense in any way. This is what happens when there is acculturation in a society.


Merging the culture and god concept of the ancient jews with Roman one created this world greatest absurdity and illogical theology believed as fact by many.

So how do you explain the Holy Spirit, the comforter Jesus promised to send to his disciples?who is he?

Jesus is the visible image of God, the word that was made flesh and dwelleth among men, jesus is just a word that had the form of man,

Just like a tree,jesus and the holy spirit are all the branches and parts of the one true God, that's why jesus can say to his disciples, " I and the father are one"
When the father was creating the world

He said let there be light!!
He commanded !!!!!! his word being jesus christ carried out the function ,so all the miracles of the old testament were carried out by jesus christ (the word)
That's why he said heaven and earth will pass away but my word will neva pass away,

Thus you can also say holy spirit is God too,

sanbells:
So how do you explain the Holy Spirit, the comforter Jesus promised to send to his disciples?who is he?

What's holy spirit in your own definition?

I'm my father are one, john 10:30..

And I say, when u pray, Pray and ask in my name, and see if it won't be done. John 14:12

Anyone who have seeen me have seen mmy father;I'm in my Father and my father in me... john14:9




Just a few for u to ponder over

liquidmetall:
Jesus is the visible image of God, the word that was made flesh and dwelleth among men, jesus is just a word that had the form of man,

Just like a tree,jesus and the holy spirit are all the branches and parts of the one true God, that's why jesus can say to his disciples, " I and the father are one"
When the father was creating the world

He said let there be light!!
He commanded !!!!!! his word being jesus christ carried out the function ,so all the miracles of the old testament were carried out by jesus christ (the word)
That's why he said heaven and earth will pass away but my word will neva pass away,

Thus you can also say holy spirit is God too,

We're talking about Christianity as a monotheistic religion. Trying some semantic tricks to conjoin different parts with different characteristics and forms is too implausible to be credible to a critical thinking mind.

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menesheh:



We talking about Christianity as a monotheistic religion. Trying some semantic tricks to conjoin different parts with different characteristics and forms is too implausible to be credible to a critical thinking mind.

He said trinity is blasphemy against God and I corrected that with God's word,dont know what you are saying




Modified:: please you can make use of your critical mind where it will be needed not before God

Whoever that comes to God should get rid of what he/she think they know, get rid of your critical thinking, when before God one should always portray him/herself as nothing so God can open up more about himself to you..

if it has scientific or logical explanation,then it is not faith, why dont you people just keep practising what you believe without negating other peoples' believe?, even free thinkers have rights to follow their beliefs.

menesheh:



What's holy spirit in your own definition?

the Holy spirit is our comforter. He lives in our hearts and tells us what's right and what's wrong.

sanbells:
the Holy spirit is our comforter. He lives in our hearts and tells us what's right and what's wrong.

In human body and in biology, i ve never heard of such thing and its position in our body. The stuff even bear the gender "he". It show that it is a male stuffs occupying a position inside our tiny heart.

How is it like and how did you arrive at the conclusion that it directs you what's right and wrong. And why did trust it?

We can't even trust our own intuition.

Those in delusion keep arguing against the truth.
What is the meaning of 'In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God......and the Word became flesh(John 1)?

The bible talks about the 'mystery of Godliness'.............and great is the mystery of godliness;God was manifest in the flesh...(1Timothy 3:16)Why are you trying to prove God with your mind?

liquidmetall:





He said trinity is blasphemy against God and I corrected that with God's word,dont know what you are saying




Modified:: please you can make use of your critical mind where it will be needed not before God

Whoever that comes to God should get rid of what he/she think they know, get rid of your critical thinking, when before God one should always portray him/herself as nothing so God can open up more about himself to you..

There are lots of dull minded assertions here. That we should suspend our critical thinking aptness to unsubstantiated and near implausible myths created by our past forefathers because of their incapability to discern the reality of things we and them witness together. Besides, today is always similar with yesterday.


If there is really a god somewhere, i buy the idea of the OP that trinity is a Blasphemy against such a god especially with the advocate of one and only true god(monotheism).

menesheh:


There are lots of dull minded assertions here. That we should suspend our critical thinking aptness to unsubstantiated and near implausible myths created by our past forefathers because of their incapability to discern the reality of things we and them witness together. Besides, today is always similar with yesterday.


If there is really a god somewhere, i buy the idea of the op that trinity it is a Blasphemy against such a god especially with the advocate of one and only true god(monotheism).

If you buy the idea that there is a God somewhere, then buy the idea to take up his manual and get to know him(the bible). And lean not to your own understanding...
Read the bible then you would understand or mayb even better than the op that jesus is God,

liquidmetall:





He said trinity is blasphemy against God and I corrected that with God's word,dont know what you are saying




Modified:: please you can make use of your critical mind where it will be needed not before God

Whoever that comes to God should get rid of what he/she think they know, get rid of your critical thinking, when before God one should always portray him/herself as nothing so God can open up more about himself to you..

damn it..why did God give us the ability to reason??

Raymondenyi:
I'm my father are one, john 10:30..

And I say, when u pray, Pray and ask in my name, and see if it won't be done. John 14:12

Anyone who have seeen me have seen mmy father;I'm in my Father and my father in me... john14:9




Just a few for u to ponder over

how contradictory with what the op quoted

BETATRON:
damn it..why did God give us the ability to reason??

Yes you have the ability think

But he also gave you conditions if you wanna follow him, he told the disciples take up the cross and follow me,they didn't question him

liquidmetall:





Yes you have the ability think

But he also gave you conditions if you wanna follow him, he told the disciples take up the cross and follow me,they didn't question him

Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of
knowledge ...
See this verse makes it clear that blind following will only lead to destruction,,your major purpose here is to worship God and he gave you the brain as one of your greatest assets don't you think it should play a greater role in your course??

BETATRON:
Hosea 4:6 my people are destroyed from lack of
knowledge ...
See this verse makes it clear that blind following will only lead to destruction,,your major purpose here is to worship God and he gave you the brain as one of your greatest assets don't you think it should play a greater role in your course??

Hosea that you quoted has nothing to do with following God
John 10: 11>14

The lord said I am the good shepherd, he is our shepherd, he directs us as our shepherd, the sheep does not question the shepherd instead the shepherd trusts and obeys the command of the shepherd knowing that the shepherd cannot lead him astray

While all this is happening, remember the sheep has a brain

Guys is it not crazy to believe? Jesus is the same as his father whom he prays to.

Listen to this prayer:

Jesus: Father it is me, you!

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Una dey believe shaa!

I hate to do this,.

But i will go with this examples.
In a presidential govt,how many president do we ve? 1, but how many arms of govt? Mmmmm 3. Does it means we ve 3 president, or 1 president, when the president send a request for budget to the senate ,does that make him less ?

Another one, u as a man is made up of 3 seperate but united beigns, yet u are one person.

If u want more explanation let me know.

Parisbookaddict what do u think

Blackfire:
I hate to do this,.

But i will go with this examples.
In a presidential govt,how many president do we ve? 1, but how many arms of govt? Mmmmm 3. Does it means we ve 3 president, or 1 president, when the president send a request for budget to the senate ,does that make him less ?

Another one, u as a man is made up of 3 seperate but united beigns, yet u are one person.

If u want more explanation let me know.

Parisbookaddict what do u think

Pls ask them if its one nigerian governemnt or 3 nigerian governments.. muslims like the empirees of nairaland are ridiculously closeminded. .