KnowAll:

I know a lot of diasporas can identify with this bit up here, except if they wan form.[/color]

Kobojunkie:

I find it fascinating that to this day, 99% of the time, when we speak of OPPORTUNITIES In Africa, we speak in terms of money to be made . But then when I listen to people elsewhere opportunity[b] is defined more in terms of services they can offer and lives they can better by offering their service of choice in an area[/b]. Any wonder why even with the new breed of leaders, we still get loads of those who consider money to be prime for them and will do most all they can to get more and more of it at the expense of the people?

Kobojunkie:

I find it fascinating that to this day, 99% of the time, when we speak of OPPORTUNITIES In Africa, we speak in terms of [b]money to be made ; moving back to Nigeria is about going there to make more money with less effort[/b]. But then when I listen to people speak of opportunities, they defined it more in terms of services they can offer, and[b] lives they can better [/b] as a result. Any wonder why even with the new breed of leaders, we still get loads of those who consider money to be prime for them and will do most all they can to get more and more of it at the expense of the people?

asha 80:

Actually those people have making money at the back of their mind.

@post

It depends on what you see as quality life.

MrCrackles:

Quality of life means a lot to me and at the moment, Nigeria cant offer that!

Living a quality life doesnt mean having millions in my bank account though

asha 80:

@kobojunkie

remember this

Most nigerians see nigeria as an enterpise to make money from and not a country to build and serve because there is no sense of nationhood amongst its people.

Kobojunkie:

I find it fascinating that to this day, 99% of the time, when we speak of OPPORTUNITIES In Africa, we speak in terms of money to be made ; moving back to Nigeria is about going there to make more money with less effort. But then when I listen to people speak of opportunities, they defined it more in terms of services they can offer, and[b] lives they can better [/b] as a result. Any wonder why even with the new breed of leaders, we still get loads of those who consider money to be prime for them and will do most all they can to get more and more of it at the expense of the people?

KnowAll:

This thread is really not about Naija is better than Abroad or Abroad is better than Naija, but it is about making people re-focus and re-addressing the issues that made them left Naija in the first place, Questions like are they in a position today to effect and make that dream they had b4 they left Naija become a reality, if yes why not go for it.

KnowAll:

For some people capital to start a business was the main issue others have their own personal reason. We all know our banks will not provide funds to the common man on the street so going abroad to work and raise capital should be seen as complementing our tight fisted banks, however I don’t blame our banks, that is actually a discuss for another day. The important thing to note is we have an alternative way to raise funds if the banks are not willing to lend. If capital is no more an issue what are we waiting for why not revitalised that dream.

Kobojunkie:

Lol @Asha80

Don’t get me wrong @JJYou ! I am not against people setting up enterprises in Nigeria. But it seems most who do, do so in order to make money and not necessarily to inject something that would potentially better their community. I am not in any way calling for folks to dig pumps and all that (personally, I think we do not need more boreholes in that country). To better explain what I mean here, let me use an example here.

I am all for Mr X moving to Nigeria to set up a business. Looking around Mr X can see that the country is already filled with low quality goods and services, and not a lot of affordable high quality opportunities for people out there. He could decide that his business would be to go out to China to get only high quality products and sell them at fair prices and maybe offer his customers’ free service for one year should be product breakdown within that period.

This is not even close to what we have happening with the many so called Nigerian business men I see and know of to date.

I heard the other day that McDonalds makes about 3cents for a mcMac burger sold and that made me sort of understand why the company seems to sell for so little yet make billions at the end of the day. You can still make a lot of money, if you do business fairly or at least close. Not going down to get an 87million contract, using low quality equipment and tools and then at the end of the day pocketing so much and then going around trying to make yourself believe you are better because you have more money in your pocket than most.

For me, economic growth and development is not about looking at GDP and interest rates. At the end of the day, we have 150 million Nigerians. When I ask whether Nigeria is improving economically or not, the question is how many Nigerians, who did not have three-square meal a day, now have three-square meal a day?

?How many Nigerians, who did not have roofs over their heads, now have roofs over their heads? How many Nigerians, who did not have education, now have education? That is economic development. If your GDP is growing by 20 per cent and 90 per cent of your population is living in poverty, I do not see that as development.
?So, economics does not give you one answer; it gives you a variety of options. The choice of options is often not driven by economics but by political ideology. Whose interests are you interested in protecting first?

JJYOU:

i get you but dont you think we are just replacing the oyinbo man with the chineese? the more we go to china the more we cvcle the dependency culture. when are we going to start doing our thing? they are now even fishing and farming for us sad.

KnowAll:

Just imagine those motor cycles they use for okada, they all have the same name, I said to myself definaetly some guy has made a killing here bringing this motor cycle to naija.

KnowAll:

2 years ago I told my brother that I want to invest N2 million in Nigeria; I will start with stocks then move into other things that will be my widow’s mite to my nation. This investment was based on the premise that someone gave me a couple of month’s b4. He said if I am prudent enough and wise in my investment that I will be surprise how fast N2 million will become N100 million in no time. I said omo!!! I game oh, that is how poured N2 million into stocks, as a launching pad into the Nigerian market. You all know what happened afterwards, I stop looking at the value of my stocks when it fell below N300,000.00 January 2009. Thank God things have started are picking up ago.

KnowAll:

2 years ago I told my brother that I want to invest N2 million in Nigeria; I will start with stocks then move into other things that will be my widow’s mite to my nation. This investment was based on the premise that someone gave me a couple of month’s b4. He said if I am prudent enough and wise in my investment that I will be surprise how fast N2 million will become N100 million in no time. I said omo!!! I game oh, that is how poured N2 million into stocks, as a launching pad into the Nigerian market. You all know what happened afterwards, I stop looking at the value of my stocks when it fell below N300,000.00 January 2009. Thank God things have started are picking up ago.

Moves:

@ Kobo;
I think you are missing the point of the thread; In going into Business; the First Aim is to make "Profit" which comes ahead of CSR, Also I believe that most nigerians business man I have met --though into small scale businesses do some sort of CSR, Especially if they use to be a diasporian, as they have loads of both Extended families and Non Family requesting they be helped out, so technically they are affecting other lives around however miniscule, There is absolute nothing wrong in being enterprising with the mindset of going to naija to make a killing as long as within legal means.

blacksta:

Na wa o - Sombody advised u that tomato was selling more than onions  u then decided to sell all yr onions to invest in tomato - What about to your brain and all your foreign educational background - what happen to  research, annual reports and co.  lol

Lolz!

Moves:

@ Kobo;
I think you are missing the point of the thread; In going into Business; the First Aim is to make "Profit" which comes ahead of CSR, Also I believe that most nigerians business man I have met --though into small scale businesses do some sort of CSR, Especially if they use to be a diasporian, as they have loads of both Extended families and Non Family requesting they be helped out, so technically they are affecting other lives around however miniscule, There is absolute nothing wrong in being enterprising with the mindset of going to naija to make a killing as long as within legal means.

blacksta:

Na wa o - Sombody advised u that tomato was selling more than onions u then decided to sell all yr onions to invest in tomato - What about to your brain and all your foreign educational background - what happen to research, annual reports and co. lol

Kobojunkie:

Please tell me you are joking!