MzPecs:
Can't read that..

INTROVERT:
op kindly explain this...


According to what was reported, the Army
had tried to 'talk with them' but their reluctance to
clear way made the army to open fire(the first shot)
on those on procession. The open of fire and killing on
members of the sect led to provocations and a second
round of exchange of bullets was reported in Zaria
where the army went to arrest the leader of the
movement, Sheikh El-Zakzaky.

1... agreed the army shot first but were did the first and second exchange of bullets come from as exchange of bullets means a group shooting and another responding in like manner.

2. if your use of exchange is correct then it follows that they were an armed group.

INTROVERT:
op kindly explain this...


According to what was reported, the Army
had tried to 'talk with them' but their reluctance to
clear way made the army to open fire(the first shot)
on those on procession. The open of fire and killing on
members of the sect led to provocations and a second
round of exchange of bullets was reported in Zaria
where the army went to arrest the leader of the
movement, Sheikh El-Zakzaky.

1... agreed the army shot first but were did the first and second exchange of bullets come from as exchange of bullets means a group shooting and another responding in like manner.

2. if your use of exchange is correct then it follows that they were an armed group.

TonyeBarcanista:

You have to try miss... Readers are Leaders!

philips70:
The problem we have in Nigeria is lack of proper investigative journalism which leads to lack of proper documentation of events and also leading to lots of facts distortion. In a single incident you hear up to 100 different accounts all unsubstantiated. From lots of firsthand information I got from people in Kaduna and Zaria, most of the deaths recorded by Shiites were products of clash with another rival sects which equally have casualties on the same night of the incident.

Until Nigerian media will shun brown envelopes and do proper investigation in the vicinity of incidents we will continue to be receiving junks as accounts of incidents and form our opinion around them.

TonyeBarcanista:

Oga, so far the army hasn't denied responsibility for the attack on the shiites. Why push it to a phantom and non-existing group when the whole world know that the army perpetrated it?

TonyeBarcanista:

Firstly, I used the words 'according to what was reported' to start the whole thing.

To answer your question, if the army shot first, that alone is enough to provoke even the meek. Nobody love to lose a friend, family or comrade in cold blood. Now who says they exchanged fire? Did any soldier sustain bullet injury or die? That's to tell you that the gunshot came from the army end.

So far, there is yet proof to show that the army was shot at BEFORE the massacre. Like I said, the sect have never been linked with ANY violence.

jakiedudu:
Funy enough the president is yet to comment on what happened between his army officers and the shia group. What the military did over the weekend was highly condemnable. Totally babaric.

philips70:


I just sent u a video, watch it. No army anywhere in the world will tolerated that. They even made several entreaties to the idiots which they rebuffed. All because they have the backing of a foreign country. PMB will not tolerate that nonsense. To me they are potential terrorists.

INTROVERT:
op kindly explain this...


According to what was reported, the Army
had tried to 'talk with them' but their reluctance to
clear way made the army to open fire(the first shot)
on those on procession. The open of fire and killing on
members of the sect led to provocations and a second
round of exchange of bullets was reported in Zaria
where the army went to arrest the leader of the
movement, Sheikh El-Zakzaky.

1... agreed the army shot first but were did the first and second exchange of bullets come from as exchange of bullets means a group shooting and another responding in like manner.

2. if your use of exchange is correct then it follows that they were an armed group.

TonyeBarcanista:

That's the height of insensitivity. The Ministers of Interior and Defence need to address this.

philips70:


I just sent u a video, watch it. No army anywhere in the world will tolerated that. They even made several entreaties to the idiots which they rebuffed. All because they have the backing of a foreign country. PMB will not tolerate that nonsense. To me they are potential terrorists.

Secondly, if the Army Chief claimed to justify their action on the blockade by the marching members of the Islamic sect, is it the gun that should disperse the crowd? What stops the army from calling on the Kaduna state Police Commissioner to direct the Police Area Commander and Divisional Police Officer in the affected area to deploy men of the force that will disperse the crowd while men of the army stay vigilant to ensure that there is no breakdown of law and order pending the arrival of men of the Police force? A police action simply require firing of teargas and mass arrest of sect members that will be prosecuted for disturbance of public peace. Why should the men of the army disregard the Nigeria Police just to take laws into their hands by opening fire on civilians?

GspotAngela:
Substantiate your claim that we returned fire. The Nigerian establishment is just irked that the Islamic Movement in Nigeria is growing rapidly. They always have a problem anytime we embark on our procession during the Ashura day, Quds day etc, but they turn a blind eye to the menace of those churches that also obstruct traffic in three south west state Lagos-Ogun-Oyo, during their own koly ghost programme.
Thirty million people converged at Karbala, Iraq for the Arba'een and there was no issue but our own government still find it difficult to wean themself off the distrust they have for the Shi'a

zizytd:
I don't support violence, both pple supporting the army and those supporting the shites don't know , is that anyway if the violence continues pple die, and these pple r somepples' breadwinners. Peace is the key tins in our lives.

GspotAngela:
You are a swine. The darkest part of Hades shall be your final abode

AkinDavid2:

TonyeBarcanista:

You have to try miss... Readers are Leaders!

philips70:


Idiot, if you belong to such violent sect you will die a miserable death.

jakiedudu:
That's why Nigeria's military establsihment must be humane and civil when dealing with civil matters. You can't go about shooting unarmed people in the name of they refused to give way to COAS. Of couse some people will be very unrully and stuborn to authorities, which is why the police is there to handle civil matters and maintain law and order. What the military on that day should have done is call the police. They should have reported the development to the police cause they are enpowered by law to maintain law and order. Am sure you must have seen videos of violent confrontations between civilians and the police in other parts of the world. I have seen very violent confrontations were people were seen on video throwing rocks and firebombs at police but the police never retaliated with firearms. They just maintain their positions with their shields to prevent injury on themselves while other personel spray tear gas on the violent people. That is standard practice worldwide. You dont use fire arms on people on the excuse that they were unrully and stuborn to give way. What is more important to the COAS than human life