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Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by PastorAIO: 7:30am On Jul 30, 2022 |
But you can serve the Ori of other. people. Ifa. can. tell a man that if he wants to. prosper he should go and feed the Ori of his wife. This happens a lot. or the ori of a. child. Meanwhile Babalawo. can help a devotee to serve his Ori. A person that wants to feed his Ori can call his friends to help him to do so. I don't even know what you. mean when you say 'worship'. Do you mean offering of ębo? FOLYKAZE: 1 Like |
Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by PastorAIO: 7:33am On Jul 30, 2022 |
lawani: There is a distinction between Egungun Ara Orun. and Egungun Alaso. |
Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by lawani: 7:36am On Jul 30, 2022 |
FOLYKAZE: If you want to say Olodumare is also a mere irunmale, you may be right but I will still insist he belongs to the highest species of irunmale just like we are the highest specie of living things. There are all sorts of irunmales. Ants, trees, dogs horses and etc just like all sorts of living things but Olodumare is special by chairing a council of 401 irunmales totalling 401 highest ranking irunmale. A king does not rank as other people and the fact that Olodumare does not need to rise from his throne to do anything by himself does not mean he is the same as an orisa, eegun and etc. What do you now want to call that personnel if not God?. The residual attribute that separates Olodumare from Orisa or Egungun is that Olodumare will never be incarnated on Earth. If he is incarnated, then another irunmale obviously has taken the title. Isn't it?. 1 Like |
Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by lawani: 7:44am On Jul 30, 2022 |
PastorAIO: Yes I wanted to say that because if you offer sacrifice to a specific Ogun, then you are worshipping or propitiating the head of that individual. The worship of any Orisa is the worship of Ori since that is a person that existed. It is the Oris that become exceptional that emerge as orisa or prominent Egungun. All ancestors are Egungun and the Egungun institution is to communicate with the ancestors. |
Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by lawani: 7:49am On Jul 30, 2022 |
PastorAIO: Okay it will be the Egungun Alaso that was introduced by Alaafin Sango. Would it be of the type that perform all sorts of magic, used for ceremonies and etc?. Even the first Oba of the Oyotunji claim he invented a new way of communicating with the ancestors using Ifa. I myself do not use the ikin or opele to generate odu. I use other means, so innovation is without limit. |
Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by PastorAIO: 9:55am On Jul 30, 2022 |
lawani: Innovation is not bad per se but we should supplement hypothesising with practical experiments. When you come up with a theory, first try it out and if you do and it works then you can report the results to the rest of the world. However if you are going to just theorise blindly then there is no end to human imagination. You'll end up saying the most outlandish things and if anyone follows your theories in practice they may end up hurting themselves seriously. |
Re: Traditional Monotheism-The Yoruba example by lawani: 10:53am On Jul 30, 2022 |
PastorAIO: That is how I work and everything I say I practice. Everything I say or believe is also in.progress, in motion, not cast in stone and etc and will be discarded immediately I find something better. I have discarded a few notions in the past ten years that were not adequate. No one gets it all together at once. |
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