salz01:
Yeah but religion is more to that being born as a Muslim or Christian doesn't really matter but what really matters most is for you to investigate every matter and know which is true as the bible says your God is not an author of confusion and Quran also says surely the religion from Allah (God) is Islam but when go through the bible verses very well you meet a lot of contradictions variations and so many unlike Quran because Allah(God) said if not that this book is from us you will have found a lot of contradictions in it.
There is more to this if wanna know you can reply me

urahara:
In the Hadith, Muhammad was given a revelation from the
angel Gabriel as to why a child resembles the father
sometimes, and other times the mother. The angel told him
that it depends on which parent reaches their sexual climax
first during conception (Bukhari 4:546). This has been
disproved by genetics.

urahara:
In the Hadith, Muhammad was given a revelation from the
angel Gabriel as to why a child resembles the father
sometimes, and other times the mother. The angel told him
that it depends on which parent reaches their sexual climax
first during conception (Bukhari 4:546). This has been
disproved by genetics.

salz01:



That is not contradiction cause science at times even get things wrong

tartar9:

the hadith didn't say which parents that reaches climax first causes the resemblance.

[b]
Bukari 4: 546

When 'Abdullah bin Salam heard the arrival of the Prophet at Medina, he came
to him and said, "I am going to ask you about three things which nobody
knows except a prophet: What is the first portent of the Hour? What will be the
first meal taken by the people of Paradise? Why does a child resemble its father, and why does it resemble its maternal uncle"

Allah's Apostle said,
]"Gabriel has just now told me of their answers." 'Abdullah said,

"He (i.e.Gabriel), from amongst all the angels, is the enemy of the Jews." Allah's Apostle said, "The first portent of the Hour will be a fire that will bring togetherthe people from the east to the west; the first meal of the people of Paradise
will be Extra-lobe (caudate lobe) of fish-liver.

As for the resemblance of the child to its parents: If a man has sexual intercourse with his wife and gets discharge first, the child will resemble the father, and if the woman gets discharge first, the child will resemble her."


On that 'Abdullah bin Salam said, "I testify that you are the Apostle of Allah."

johnydon22:

This is the cheapest weak ass defence i have seen this year... So this angel that told muhammed this somehow had only the exact amount of assumption men of that century had.

One should have expected what an angel revealed to Muhammed from God himself to be correct..

Turns out both this angel and God needs to go to school and learn.. they need it

johnydon22:

This is the cheapest weak ass defence i have seen this year... So this angel that told muhammed this somehow had only the exact amount of assumption men of that century had.

One should have expected what an angel revealed to Muhammed from God himself to be correct..

Turns out both this angel and God needs to go to school and learn.. they need it

urahara:


Solution to the problem

It is metaphorical or it has been mistranslated.


But if a Muslim will see scientific blunders in the Bible they don't bother to think of whether it is "metaphorical"

salz01:
Yeah but religion is more to that being born as a Muslim or Christian doesn't really matter but what really matters most is for you to investigate every matter and know which is true as the bible says your God is not an author of confusion and Quran also says surely the religion from Allah (God) is Islam but when go through the bible verses very well you meet a lot of contradictions variations and so many unlike Quran because Allah(God) said if not that this book is from us you will have found a lot of contradictions in it.
There is more to this if wanna know you can reply me

johnydon22:
Both the bible and Quran believers are all guilty of this blunder when defending the glaring inconsistencies in such primitive books that belongs in a museum.

- First they will argue that the scientific finding is wrong and their holy book is right.

-Then they will tell you the holy book was misinterpreted

-then they will tell you their own interpretation trying to convince you that what science said was exactly the actual interpretation "Like Circle means round" who in the world does that... Just take a look at one there claiming "sexual discharge" as found in the hadiths actually means "Gene"

-then they tell you it was not literal but allegorical or metaphor ..

This is what you get when a book written by men in an era we are more civilized than is the basis of your deductions on matters than require study (science)

johnydon22:


Oh yes he did and the mumu man who asked the questions even rejoiced thinking the answers were correct..

Both the prophet, the man, the angel Gabriel and the God that gave the revelation are illiterates. they need at least a secondary diploma..

This is a typical example of Con-tricks.. People deceiving other gullible simpletons with the claims of revelations. [/i][/b]

tartar9:

it kind of plays on translation.my hadith says if the man's discharge dominates that of the woman.how best could He(SAW) have explained such concepts 1400 years ago to desert bedouins

tartar9:

it kind of plays on translation.my hadith says if the man's discharge dominates that of the woman.how best could He(SAW) have explained such concepts 1400 years ago to desert bedouins

dalaman:


The Koran very clearly says that the sun sets in a muddy spring(Which was actually the prevailing belief of the Arabs of that time). Muslims apologist have told all kinds of ridiculous lies to defend this laughably myth

It is absurd to think that Modern 21st century men are revolving their thinking around these ridiculous books and try tooth and nail to defend it..

One guy once told me Circle means Round (Because someone brought up where the bible said "Circle of the earth which means flat earth"..

Someone born in the 21st century doesn't know Circle is entirely a different thing from round..beats me

urahara:
Muslims in the house

Pls answer this question

Do you think Isaiah was talking about Jesus in this passage

Prelude - Isaiah 7:1-10
Judah is faced with invasion by its northern neighbours,
the Kingdom of Israel (also called Ephraim) and Aram-
Damascus (Syria), but God instructs the prophet Isaiah to
tell king Ahaz that God will destroy Judah's enemies
(Isaiah 7:1-10):
When Ahaz ... was king of Judah, Rezin, king of
Syria, and Pekah ... king of Israel, marched on
Jerusalem, they were unable to prevail against it.
When the House of David was told that Syria had
allied itself with Ephraim, their hearts and the
hearts of their people trembled ... But the Lord said
to Isaiah, "Go out to meet Ahaz, you and
Shearjushab your son, ... and say to him, 'Be firm
and keep calm, ... The Lord has said, 'It will not
happen...' [3]
The prophecy - Isaiah 7:11-16
Isaiah delivers God's message to Ahaz and tells him to
ask for a sign to confirm that this is a true prophecy
(verse 7:11). Ahaz refuses, saying he will not test God
(7:12). Isaiah replies that Ahaz will have a sign whether
he asks for it or not, and the sign will be the birth of a
child, and the child's mother will call it Immanuel,
meaning "God-with-us" (7:13-14); by the time the infant
"learns to reject the bad and choose the good" (i.e., is old
enough to know right from wrong) he will be eating curds
and honey, and Ephraim and Syria will be destroyed
(7:15-16):
7:11 יא שְׁאַל- לְךָ אוֹת , מֵעִם יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ ; הַעְמֵק
שְׁאָלָה , אוֹ הַגְבֵּהַּ לְמָעְלָה .
"Ask a sign from the Lord your God, from
lowest Sheol or from highest heaven."
7:12 יב וַיֹּאמֶר, אָחָז : לֹא- אֶשְׁאַל וְלֹא - אֲנַסֶּה, אֶת-
יְהוָה .
But Ahaz said, "I will not ask, and I will not
test the Lord."
7:13 יג וַיֹּאמֶר, שִׁמְעוּ- נָא בֵּית דָּוִד : הַמְעַט מִכֶּם
הַלְאוֹת אֲנָשִׁים, כִּי תַלְאוּ גַּם אֶת- אֱלֹהָי .
Then he retorted: "Listen, house of David! Is it
not enough to try the patience of men? Will
you also try the patience of my God?
7:14 יד לָכֵן יִתֵּן אֲדֹנָי הוּא, לָכֶם --אוֹת : הִנֵּה
הָעַלְמָה, הָרָה וְיֹלֶדֶת בֵּן, וְקָרָאת שְׁמוֹ, עִמָּנוּ אֵל .
therefore the Lord himself shall give you a
sign: a maiden is with child and she will bear
a son, and will call his name Immanuel.
7:15 טו חֶמְאָה וּדְבַשׁ , יֹאכֵל -- לְדַעְתּוֹ מָאוֹס בָּרָע,
וּבָחוֹר בַּטּוֹב .
By the time he learns to reject the bad and
choose the good, he will be eating curds and
honey.
7:16 טז כִּי בְּטֶרֶם יֵדַע הַנַּעַר, מָאֹס בָּרָע -- וּבָחֹר
בַּטּוֹב : תֵּעָזֵב הָאֲדָמָה אֲשֶׁר אַתָּה קָץ, מִפְּנֵי שְׁנֵי
מְלָכֶיהָ .
For before the child knows to reject the bad
and choose the good, desolation will come
upon the land of the two kings before whom
you now cower."


600 years after the death of the prophet and Isaiah and the destruction of the two kingdoms he feared and King ahaz Matthew says this:

18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ took
place in this way. When his mother
Mary had been betrothed to Joseph,
before they came together she was
found to be with child from the Holy
Spirit. 19 And her husband Joseph,
being a just man and unwilling to put
her to shame, resolved to divorce her
quietly. 20 But as he considered these
things, behold, an angel of the Lord
appeared to him in a dream, saying,
"Joseph, son of David, do not fear to
take Mary as your wife, for that which
is conceived in her is from the Holy
Spirit. 21 She will bear a son, and you
shall call his name Jesus, for he will
save his people from their sins." 22
All this took place to fulfill what the
Lord had spoken by the prophet: 23
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and
bear a son, and they shall call his
name Immanuel" (which means, God
with us). 24 When Joseph woke from
sleep, he did as the angel of the Lord
commanded him: he took his wife, 25
but knew her not until she had given
birth to a son. And he called his name
Jesus.
—  Matthew 1:18-25
“
Muslims what do you think about this

johnydon22:
It is absurd to think that Modern 21st century men are revolving their thinking around these ridiculous books and try tooth and nail to defend it..

One guy once told me Circle means Round (Because someone brought up where the bible said "Circle of the earth which means flat earth"..

Someone born in the 21st century doesn't know Circle is entirely a different thing from round..beats me

dalaman:

Have you read the story of the Gog and Magog lost tirbes in the Koran?

johnydon22:
Lmao.. No regale me the thrilling details

johnydon22:
He too was also one of these bedouins..

And such assumptions is expected from such medieval mind...Just like Dalaman pointed out, it is just a result of ignorance so don't pull this weak excuse.

Plato conceived the world to be spherical thousands of years back while your quran written in a more recent time time thinks the earth is spread like a mat

tartar9:

what am saying is that you can't say his explanation to be wrong and the Quran never said the earth is flat

johnydon22:
It is absurd to think that Modern 21st century men are revolving their thinking around these ridiculous books and try tooth and nail to defend it..

One guy once told me Circle means Round (Because someone brought up where the bible said "Circle of the earth which means flat earth"..

Someone born in the 21st century doesn't know Circle is entirely a different thing from round..beats me

dalaman:


How couldn't he? People like Aristotle and Galen for example explain more complex things to peoplelving around them that lived over a thousand year before Mohammed. It's simply his ignorance and lack of knowledge, after all the same Mohammed we are told, instructed people to drink camel urine as cure for diseases.

dalaman:


Like everything else in the Koran, the story of the Gog and Magog is another plagiarized legend with an Arabic twist. Gog and Magog also appears in the bible in the book of revelations. The summary of the story goes like this:

There was a man with two horns called Zulqarnain who found the sun setting into a muddy spring somewhere on earth and later after seeing the sun setting in a muddy spring, he saw the sun rising in the east near some people who had no shelter from it. After witnessing that, he took another route where he meet some people that could hardly understand what he was saying. The people he meet there reported the people of Gog and Magog to him saying they are evil and are always making mischief in the land. They said he should make a barrier between them. So he told them to help him with workers so that he will build a fortified barrier between the two of them which they did, after which he built a wall with blocks of iron between two mountains separating the two people. He built the wall separating the people of Gog and Magog and the other people, the people of Gog and Magog were trapped behind the wall he built and could not scale the wall or dig a hole through it.

The Koran now says that they people of Gog and Magog will not be trapped for ever, some day the people of Gog and Magog will break through the wall, come out into the world an cause utter chaos that will eventually lead to the end of the world. Their breaking through the iron barrier is one of the 10 signs of the things that will happen before the day of judgement according to Islamic narration.

So the main stream Islamic narration is that the people of Gog and Magog have been trapped somewhere here on earth behind this iron wall that was built by Zulqarnain for thousands of years and will remain there until when we reach the final days of the end time. What makes the story more absurd is that these people of Gog and Magog are here on earth trapped behind a mountain with a metal barrier. What makes it more absurd is that the population of the people of Gog and Magog is more than the population of the people on earth. So we are to believe that somewhere around the world there are people who are trapped behind two mountains with an iron barrier whose number is by far more than the population of the people on earth, people who will some day break through their iron barrier, come into the world and cause utter havoc. How can any body believe this trash when we have used google earth to map the whole world and have failed to see any group of people that actually number more than the population of the earth trapped any where. The crazy things that religion makes people to believe and accept.