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Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 6:32am On Jun 28, 2009 |
In the Bible 2 Corinthians 6:14 says: the above came from a debate on a muslim marrying a christian attached is an interpretation by no2atheism based on the above, by my own interpretation, the faith of christians across the world is in serious danger how can a christian be an employee of a company run/founded by atheists/muslims - examples abound zain in nigeria(based in the middle east), microsoft (bill gates is an atheist), apple (steve jobs subscribes to some eastern philosopy if i recall correctly), toyota, honda kia (run by asians), there is probably no company today outside of TBN and er nigerian churches that can be termed as christian businesses the workplace today is multi ethnic, multi racial - in my department we have both muslims and christians. incidentally, the current HOD is an indian. is that not 'unequal yoking' employment is only part of it. purchasing an item can be construed as business deal. in this globalized world where products have so many components from all corners - when you buy petrol you are ulimately doing a buisness deal with a middle eastern country when you buy an electronic good, you are engaging in a business deal with a japanese/taiwnese company you buy a pc, you are entering into a business deal with a chinese company so , how does one reconcile the mandate "Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord" with living in the modern world ? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Generica(m): 12:56am On Jun 29, 2009 |
In the olden days, people used a yoke of oxen to plow their field. Now a yoke is that thick rod tied to each of the cows or oxen that the farmer used. The yoke makes them move together in the same direction, at the same pace and without any of the cows going farther than the other. Now concerning the issue raised , using the reality of the above explanation, a christian who yokes together with an unbeliever is that christian who moves with unbelievers as best friends(life-long friendship), moves in the same direction of fashion, desires, taste, the same desperate pursuit for the things of the world. Infact that christian moves when unbelievers move, buys the latest when they buy, rest when they do, and remains there until the owner (farmer) of life and death comes for deliverance(that is when the person's conscience is touched by the Spirit of God during prayers, preaching, special crusades,etc). |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Tudor6(f): 6:20am On Jun 29, 2009 |
If a christian should wan't to adhere strictly to the archaic instructions in the bible, he'd definately end up living under a rock. In other words, the bible is outdated and isn't releavant in the 21st century. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Tudor6(f): 6:22am On Jun 29, 2009 |
If a christian should wan't to adhere strictly to the archaic instructions in the bible, he'd definately end up living under a rock. In other words, the bible is outdated and isn't releavant in the 21st century. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Generica(m): 12:07am On Jun 30, 2009 |
Tudór: The bible should be strictly adhered to. Without that no christian will ever fully realise the enormous blessings of God. Many christians are perishing for want of "the joy of the Lord," they complain that they don't enjoy their christian life and yet they are oblivious of the fact that they hadn't followed all the counsels of God. I put it to you that there's no shame in christianity. It's only those who don't study the word of God that call it outdated. What God expects christians to do in the case at hand are these: first of all to pure in heart towards Him and towards our fellow men, especially the opplosite sex. Secondly, one must realise that the real life of a christian stems from the kind of spirit he/she has. Heaven, we believe, is pure and holy and what other mindset could be better accepted, my good friend? Most importantly is the fact that we must be free from the evil desires that have been the bane of the society at any time we live in. Inasmuch as we love people, we also know that not all will contributetowards our kind of mindset: some may attempt to rob of it. We are to wear good clothes, buy good cars, marry wives, travel abroad, etc, but in the absece and delay of these, how do we feel or react? This is the essence of christianity. People lie, cheat, fight.kill, blackmail in order to progress in life. A christian is one who feels contented with what he/she has at present. Yet if a good and sin-free opportunity comes, he utilises it(1 corinthians 7:17-21). Furthermore since it is expected that a man who believes in an idea, let alone the ultimate reality, show it we live in a way that will not corrupt others or give them the impression thsat we are living in affectation. There are modern modest clothes in the markets, aren't they? There are cool businesses as well and I strongly believe that God will never allow evil to totally prevail over the earth. So dear one, we live by example; to show others the right way in which there's peace, frrdom of conscience towards God and men,and fulfilment both in this world and in the world to come. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by kolaoloye(m): 11:36am On Jun 30, 2009 |
Tudór:The Bible says: wisdom is the principal thing, with all thy getting get understanding. May the Good Lord open your eyes of understanding . |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Tudor6(f): 12:26pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
How does that help my situation now? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by JeSoul(f): 2:46pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
oyb:No2A is right & I am so glad you used those words "by my own interpretation". You're not a christian, which is why you're trying and failing to understand christian values using your own 'interpretation' of our tenets. 1 John 4: Those people belong to this world, so they speak from the world’s viewpoint, and the world listens to them. so , how does one reconcile the mandate "Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord" with living in the modern world ?Its easy. As easy as the difference between the words "YOKED" and "ASSOCIATE". I love my friends who are not christian, I occasionally spend time with them, I treat my co-workers with respect and compassion, we talk and have lunch and collab on projects together. My previous boss is gay - we still call each other every now and then just to say hi. Infact he was instrumental in helping reach where I am today. Now the above is me associating with the world. If I were to say I wanted to marry or start a business with etc one of my non-christian friends - that would be 'yoking' myself to them - this is what the bible forbids. The scriptures do not advocate cutting oneself off from the world and not associating with non-believers, on the contrary it encourages us to love people and treat them as we would ourselves. 1Cor 5: I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by divineson: 2:56pm On Jun 30, 2009 |
Jesoul ur right ]I have written you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. [/color] Dont follow them to commot sin, since anyone that coomit sin is a slave of sin |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 9:00pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
Now the above is me associating with the world. If I were to say I wanted to marry or start a business with etc one of my non-christian friends - that would be 'yoking' myself to them - this is what the bible forbids. but there is the catch. several christians today are employed by companies that are not Christian in nature or origin microsoft founded by atheists apple founded by steve jobs who subscribes to some eastern philosphy or are you not 'yoked' when a company is responsible for your welfare, etal? what about the directors of companies like zain? what are you implying for the 90% of christians that rea directors in multinationals etal? I treat my co-workers with respect and compassion, we talk and have lunch and collab on projects together. My previous boss is gay - we still call each other every now and then just to say hi. Infact he was instrumental in helping reach where I am today. what you've said contradicts this: "Do not be teamed with those who do not love the Lord, for what do the people of God have in common with the people of sin? How can light live with darkness? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 9:17pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
to start with the OP is trying too desperately to avoid answering the over-riding question . . . what does it exactly mean to be "yoked"? In fact the KJV tries to answer that question when it uses TWO CRITICAL WORDS - 2 Corinthians 6:14 "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" Does working for my boss connote a "fellowship" or a "communion"? This is simply the same thing over and over again . . . deliberate misinterpretation of the scriptures to support a pre-concieved idea. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 9:45pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness?" (KJV) three different translations , wonder why christians are taking chances on the correct interpretation? even here you lot are contradicting yourselves as usual this is what no2atheism said - Hence a christian who goes into business partnership with a non-christian would either end up changing them or they would end up changing him.. and this is what jesoul said
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Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 9:46pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: have you understood the meaning of "YOKED" just yet? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:01pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: Because . . . those who interpreted the bible are not infallible robots. Each man interpretes as he sees fit. The beauty of the bible is in one striking fact - in the mouth of 2 or 3 witnesses let a matter be established. Confused about whether 2 Cor 6:14 expressly commanded the christian NOT to work in a company that has an atheist boss? Then read this: Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God; 23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men; Note . . . colossians didnt say obey only your christian masters! oyb: I dont see any contradiction in what either of them said . . . except the one you are desperately trying to impose. Christ ate with sinners and publicans but we are not told that 100% of them became His followers . . . infact at a point in John 6 we learn that some of His followers even went back from following Him after hearing His hard doctrines. N2A's position is valid . . . as a christian we are supposed to be light on a hill . . . or salt of the earth. That simply means . . . wherever you are, whoever you are friends with - let your profession of faith STAND OUT. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:08pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oh my gawd - enter the contradictions i posted this, but the spambot hit it , you can check my profile or just go here and see what CHRISTIANS sorry 'christians' have to say http://thirdmill.org/newfiles/aw_pink/aw_pink.Separation.html Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers; for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? (2 Cor. 6:14-18) This passage gives utterance to a Divine exhortation for those belonging to Christ to hold aloof from[b] all intimate associations with the Ungodly[/b]. It expressly forbids them entering into alliances with the unconverted. It definitely prohibits the children of God walking arm-in-arm with worldlings. It is an admonition applying to every phase and department of our lives—religious, domestic social, commercial. And never, perhaps, was there a time when it more needed pressing on Christians than now. The days in which we are living are marked by the spirit of compromise. On every side we behold unholy mixtures, ungodly alliances, unequal yokes. Many professing Christians appear to be trying how near to the world they may walk and yet go to Heaven. "For what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols?" How explicit and emphatic are the terms used there! No excuse whatever is there for failing to understand the terms of this exhortation, and the reason with which it is supported. "Fellowship, communion, concord, part, agreement" are so plain they require no interpreter. All unions, alliances, partnerships, entanglements, with unbelievers are expressly forbidden to the Christian. It is impossible to find within the whole range of Holy Scripture plainer language on any subject than we have here. "Righteousness, unrighteousness; light, darkness; Christ, Belial"—what have they in common? What bond is there between them? that is the most relevant excerpt
i no fit talk do you realise what you are saying |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:16pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: more uneducated rubbish. Again you're simply guilty of laziness and dishonesty . . . the bible is VERY CLEAR on this issue. That you need to trawl through the internet simply cherrypicking ONLY those alleged "christian" comments that legitimise your own pre-concieved bias is telling. That is why each time i have made a point here i have backed it up with biblical verses. Now the first excerpt you posted talking about 2 Cor 6:14 prohibiting christians from even walking arm in arm with worldlings . . . but that would contradict colossians 3 which states that we shld serve our masters (Note again! It didnt say ONLY CHRISTIAN MASTERS) like unto the Lord. 1 timothy 2: 1-4 even admonishes us to PRAY for KINGS and those in authority over us! It didnt say oh just pray for your christian masters and ignore the rest. oyb: I'm not sure you understood it yourself . . . you simply saw another dishonest and fraudulent opportunity to expose your one-track bias. Those who translated the original bible to KJV so many centuries ago where not speaking the same english as we speak now. If i were to translate the bible again to english of course i wouldnt be using stuff like "thou wert" . . . does that mean the bible is itself flawed? The level of deciet from muslims is appalling. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
offtopic - offtopic - Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God; good to know that the germans who gassed the jews were fearing god when they followed instruction to the letter even admonishes us to PRAY for KINGS and those in authority over us! It didnt say oh just pray for your christian masters and ignore the rest. oh my gawd - oya, will you pray for yaradua do you see how ridiculous you sound in your efforts would you have prayed for herod? or pharoah? or hitler? or the russian government? if you were working in the middle east, would you pray for king fahd? davidylan, please tell me truthfully, did you ever pray for any of those nasty muslim rulers who you are always blaming for the state of nigeria? stop these duplicituos arguments this is what you said: Each man interpretes as he sees fit. so don't give me any 'translation' B.S. going by this all those freaks the Aryans, the KKK and all those other horrors are perfectly in order, since [b]they interprete as they see [/b]fit. you're the one who said it all hail, davidylan, the world's only true christian. all who have views different from his anointed views are er 'christians' |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:23pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
This passage gives utterance to a Divine exhortation for those belonging to Christ to hold aloof from all intimate associations with the Ungodly. It expressly forbids them entering into alliances with the unconverted. It definitely prohibits the children of God walking arm-in-arm with worldlings. It is an admonition applying to every phase and department of our lives—religious, domestic social, commercial. And never, perhaps, was there a time when it more needed pressing on Christians than now. The days in which we are living are marked by the spirit of compromise. On every side we behold unholy mixtures, ungodly alliances, unequal yokes. Many professing Christians appear to be trying how near to the world they may walk and yet go to Heaven. This article does not address the point of the thread AT ALL. Infact is has absolutely NOTHING to do with whether an individual shld work with a non-christian boss or not. One then wonders whether the OP even read AND understood the article or simply pasted it in a fit of dishonest glee. Lets assume the writer of the article ACTUALLY BELIEVED that all christians shld not touch anything ungodly . . . why would they have a website? Was the web created by christians alone? why have your site accessible by google? Are the inventors of google christians? Why bother to see a doctor if he's atheist? Why even drive a car? Are the car manufacturers bible-thumping christians? No this article addresses a more salient point which was the reason why i asked the OP TWICE if he understood the meaning of THREE pertinent words used in the KJV . . . 1. yoke 2. Fellowship 3. communion. Of course i got no answer but a barrage of senseless copying and pasting of irrelevancies. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:26pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: Again more myopic nonsense. Read that verse again - Col 3:22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, [size=14pt]fearing God[/size]; 23 And whatsoever ye do, [size=14pt]do it heartily, as to the Lord[/size], and not unto men; I deliberately enlarged those portions just in-case the OP was blind. We are to obey our masters AS UNTO THE LORD. If your master told you to kill someone which is definitely NOT UNTO THE LORD . . . you have the option of quitting. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
davidylan and confusion - I deliberately enlarged those portions just in-case the OP was blind. We are to obey our masters AS UNTO THE LORD. If your master told you to kill someone which is definitely NOT UNTO THE LORD . . . you have the option of quitting. i will just take your simple example - is execution via gas chamber unto the lord? is attacking a sovereign nation unto the lord? is a sniper unto the lord? since they all involve killing, which according to you is not unto the lord since conventional business practices did not exist then, all this servant master business is bull. you do realise that servant really means slave, don't you? so all your master servant is moot. we are not talking about people who happen to be other's property. we are talking about employees. read the entire link, i only posted two excerpts because the spam bot deleted the rest |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:43pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: when are you delusional people going to ever stay on-topic? Is offtopic not the usual excuse to yank off any thread that threatens to expose islam? oyb: This is irresponsible . . . i know thousands of churches in nigeria and here who devote tremendous time to praying for government leaders. Go back and read 1 timothy 2:2 again . . . it gives us one reason why we need to pray for our leaders in authority - For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. oyb: My prayer life is no business of yours and has no relevance to the topic. oyb: That again is more dishonest rubbish . . . i made that statement in reaction to your CONSTANT and DELIBERATELY CONFUSIONIST use of 3 translations of the bible at once. Your aim being to show that neither one agreed in the wordings used. This was why i said - each translation of the bible is different depending on the era the translation was done and those who did the translating. Which was why i gave a pertinent example, if i were to do my own translation of the bible now . . . i wouldnt use KJV style of english, would that make the bible a fraud then? And this coming from this same dishonest charlatan whose english version of the quran also consists of myriads of translations with so many different spins. Allah's slaves . . . objectivity and the truth is not to be found in them. Note how the thread is completely offtopic . . . had it been one pointing out mohammad's numerous follies it would long have been locked for "offtopic". |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:48pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
again we are completely offtopic. What this has to do with the main topic is left to anyone's guesses but lets just keep stringing these blind slaves of satan along. oyb: Murder is not the same as being a soldier or carrying out government-sanctioned murder as part of your job. That is why there is always room to seek the face of God before you take up a job . . . even Paul spoke about it, if EVEN YOUR EATING would cause you to be evil spoken of or cause your brother to stumble then it is better to abstain. Of all the jobs in the world and even the ones you stated when you started the thread, these were the only ones that you could think of? Have you wondered what allah's reaction is to suicide bombers? Nah you're simply interested in christian members of the US armed forces. Again the confusion here is the one you are desperately struggling in vain to kick up. I cant see it. oyb: they involve killing but do not involve malicious murder. oyb: What dishonest and false rubbish. There were no markets then? No vineyards that hired workers? Was the prodigal son not hired to look after a pig farm? Was Paul of Tarsus not a tent maker? Was Matthew not a tax collector? From whom was he collecting taxes? Slaves only? You read stuff from these delusional folks and you just want to shake your head in wonder. oyb: so because KJV used the term "servants" you just assumed it was talking about paid servants? Are you not a servant to he who hires you? oyb: i'm not interested in reading what you brainless trolls just copy and paste from wherever. I would rather read the bible. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 10:56pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
i know thousands of churches in nigeria and here who devote tremendous time to praying for government leaders someone in the US know thousands of churches in nigeria what , no comments on killing? if anyone took this thread offtopic, it was you That again is more dishonest rubbish . . . i made that statement in reaction to[b] your CONSTANT and DELIBERATELY CONFUSIONIST use of 3 translations of the bible at once[/b]. Your aim being to show that neither one agreed in the wordings used. it is osisi you are calling a dishonest liar . i copied her post exactly from the thread on a christian dating a muslim . perhaps as you so often say she is also a 'christian' ? you did not say, each man translates as he see fit, you said each man interprets as he sees fit This was why i said - each translation of the bible is different depending on the era the translation was done and those who did the translating. so what you're really saying is that the bible said a different thing in each era, and that if you translated it, it would say yet something else |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 11:07pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
lets follow the bastard child of the incestuous diety in his game go and read - i referenced it when i discussed how jesus condoned slavery. the word servant/maid is simply used to replace/ polish up slave i'm not interested in reading what you brainless trolls just copy and paste from wherever. I would rather read the bible. see the hypocrite who has no problem with copying and pasting thighing - ps which version so because KJV used the term "servants" you just assumed it was talking about paid servants? Are you not a servant to he who hires you? are you really trying to equate 'being a servant' then to working now? perhaps its because you are in grad school. they do say the grad students are slaves of professors. there is no way you can refer to an employee, who has health benefits, who is part of a union, who is a skilled worker as a servant. stop being stupid. there is no way you can reconcile servants from that time with workers today. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 11:08pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: you understand my point very clearly but you pretend not to because its your only leg to stand on at the moment. I said quite CLEARLY - Which was why i gave a pertinent example, if i were to do my own translation of the bible now . . . i wouldnt use KJV style of english, would that make the bible a fraud then? what has "style of english" got to do with the central message of the bible? Do these folks have to lie so much for allah? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by noetic2: 11:09pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: what EXACTLY are u drilling around? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 11:12pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: Again more unintelligible gibberish. So because the bible uses the term "servant" EVERY SINGLE person in the biblical era was either a house servant or owner of a servant? Who then was employed by the carpenter? who were the temple masons? who were the tax collectors? Was the prodigal son a servant? What about the shepherd boys? The temple and royal scribes where what? Who were those working in the vineyards? who were those employed by the fishermen? Was paul of tarsus also a servant to his tent maker bosses? The soldiers were also servants of who? The priest was a servant of whom? the levites were servants to whom? The market traders were servants to whom? So you expected the bible to use terms like "employee, clerk, secretary, speech writer" before you could understand what it meant? Sometimes you wonder if these folks can reason. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 11:30pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
my my my Christians are wonderful davidylan and confusion What dishonest and false rubbish. There were no markets then? No vineyards that hired workers? Was the prodigal son not hired to look after a pig farm? Was Paul of Tarsus not a tent maker? Was Matthew not a tax collector? From whom was he collecting taxes? Slaves only? so because KJV used the term "servants" you just assumed it was talking about paid servants? Are you not a servant to he who hires you?
i cannot see where the guy is referred to as a servant - perhaps you can help me out? |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by GEW: 11:39pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
davidylan:you know he knows what you are talking about. that argumentative spirit that troubles most mole people is what you see at work hre. there is that satanic veil covering all thier eyes that wont let them see truth let alone accept. look at Job 42}2 for instance in difference translation. notice how it change the word withholden to unstoppable, thwarted, restrained, hindered or withheld. it is one word that means same thing. oyb hope you get it?
oyb:you can never understand the bible becos you obviously dont have the Spirit of Christ. to you the letters of the bibl are just words that is why it is confusing you, what is confusing you now is a small matter wait till you get to the weightier matters of scriptures. may God have mercy on you and remove that religious scale in your eyes in Jesus Christ name. may He give you an understanding heart to know the love of Christ for you and your kind. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 11:42pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
oyb: Ridiculous. Just plainly uneducated drivel. I ask again . . . when the bible uses the term "servant" was it using it in literal terms in Col 3:22? What is the convincing proof of this? So you expected the bible to say - servants, clerks, engineers, masons, soldiers . . . etc serve your teachers, priests, pastors, masters . . . etc? Here are a few examples of where the term "servant" is also used . . . [size=13pt]SERVANT sur'-vant ('ebhedh; doulos): A very common word with a variety of meanings, all implying a greater or less degree of inferiority and want of freedom: (1) The most frequent usage is as the equivalent of "slave" (which see), with its various shades in position (Gen 9:25; 24:9; Ex 21:5; Mt 10:24; Lk 17:7, and often); but also a hired workman where "hired servant" translates Hebrew and Greek expressions which differ from the above. (2) An attendant in the service of someone, as Joshua was the "servant" the Revised Version (British and American) "minister" of Moses (Nu 11:28). (3) As a 'term of respectful self-depreciation referring to one's self, "thy servant." or "your servant" is used in place of the personal pronoun of the first person: (a) in the presence of superiors (Gen 19:2; 32:18, and often); (b) in addressing the Supreme Being (1 Sam 3:9; Ps 19:11; 27:9; Lk 2:29, and often). (4) Officials of every grade are called the "servants" of kings, princes, etc. (1 Sam 29:3; 2 Sam 16:1; 1 Ki 11:26; Prov 14:35, and often). (5) The position of a king in relation to his people (1 Ki 12:7). (6) One who is distinguished as obedient and faithful to God or Christ (Josh 1:2; 2 Ki 8:19; Dan 6:20; Col 4:12; 2 Tim 2:24). (7) One who is enslaved by sin (Jn 8:34).[/size] So we know from the bible that the term "servant" also applied to hired laborers. but of course oyb would rather this inconvenient fact isnt pointed out. |
Re: Do Not Be Yoked Together With Unbelievers by Nobody: 11:43pm On Jul 11, 2009 |
GEW: dont expect oyb to understand such mundane things. GEW: thank you. |
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