Olu317:
In strong agreement do I accept the idea that the two names did existed before recoining of these names to suit the English and Returnees Yoruba Brazilians.

First,these two names do fit as having triliteral root, because Aguda and Geesi ; ‘G U D', and G I S' ~ ‘G IY S'. So, it is important to look beyond the attached sentiments to Yoruba Brazilians returnees as being the basis for the names since we know the ancient Yoruba are deeper in thoughts through their language development which are always descriptive in nature to identify anything,thus make them far more astounding than many of us in the modern world. Therefore,these words can be said to have multiple meaning which I intend to make a piece interpretation to each name,which is as follow:

1.Àgùdá

Ag u da

Agu~ one that stab

ùdà ~sword,cutlass

~ one who masters the usage of sword; swordman


2.Gẹ́ẹ́sí

Gẹ́ ~ sit comfortably on a seat

ẹ́ ~ it's/it

Sì~(adv.) slowly

(conj.) and, also,likewise

(,prep.)into,at,against

(pro.) who

(v.i) to be , exist

~ one who sit comfortably on a seat; lord, king,wealthy one, Noble, etc

lawani:
though I don't know the etymology of aguda or geesi but Yoruba language does not flow like you are making out.

RedboneSmith:
The German theory has a very big hole in it. First of all, it is inconceivable that the Catholic church would be associated with Germans, because the Germans were predominantly Protestant (Lutheran), and not Catholic.

The meaning of Aguda is not far-fetched. It derives from the name of the Dahmomeyan port city of Whydah. The French called it Juda and the Portuguese called it Ajuda. It was from the Portuguese version that Aguda was derived. There were a lot of Brazilian traders settled in Whydah/Ajuda in the 18th and especially 19th century. In fact, many of the quarters in the city were founded by Brazilians. Francisco Felix de Souza was the most famous Brazilian settler-trader in Whydah. His influence there was so great he was regarded as the father of the city. So Whydah/Ajuda became so closely associated with Brazilians that in time, people coming from Brazil became known as Aguda among the Yoruba. Many of them passed through Whydah before arriving at Yoruba ports, like Lagos.

Geesi is also probably derived from the Portuguese word for English, which is Ingles.

Olu317:
[s] Whydah,Ouidah is not Judah in Abomey Kingdom. Far from it

The place was a place where the ealier settlers known as Yoruba discovered snake and it was corrupted from oodéayé to Ouida.

A time came when the earlier settlers were driven from there by the later settlement whom were fongbe group. The Abomey groups.

Out of mischievous act do the Europeans thought the place was named Judah which is a tracking name for ancient Hebrew .

Meanwhile, the name of Judah is wrongly spelt because the first alphabet "J" is actually "Y" which falls within "y" and "ee" sound in English language after transliteration.

The Aguda has Pre Brazilian connection with Yorubas, though cognate may either be true or false. There are names borne by Yorubas before contact with newer groups,inwhich some names goes extinct except through invocation or panegyrics[/s].

macof:


Nobody said anything about Hebrew Judah
You see "The French called it Juda" and the next thing is to bring up the kingdom of Judah

Olu317:
[s] Grow up and read books, my dear . So the OOdéayé, Whydah didnt bother you but Judah's part is your problem ? Anyway, read books again to know how the name came to be acquainted with fact.

One of the reason British colonialists, other inquisitive Europeans came was to find the fairytale Hebrews who ought be as white as snow. So part of coming to West Africa was to identify ancient Hebrew.

Well, do you want to read the Ifaodu which posit yoruba have white ancestors or gave birth to some white descendants ?

Paradventure, I am wrong, then I owe you a 4eyed kolanut. What will you give if I am right nkọ ?
[/s]

macof:


[s]Nobody said anything about Hebrew Judah
You see "The French called it Juda" and the next thing is to bring up the kingdom of Judah

Olu317:
[/s]

macof:
. Olu you know its true

Olu317:
What is true to you is false to me. Flow with the ancient while reinvigorating the new era with the advance knowledge of the gods.
Làà
Làá
gbàà
gbàá
wàà
wàá

Olu317:
What is true to you is false to me. Flow with the ancient while reinvigorating the new era with the advance knowledge of the gods.
Làà
Làá
gbàà
gbàá
wàà
wàá

rhektor:


What does this mean?

Olu317:
Give genuine English transliteration and meaning. Solve the riddle.

rhektor:

Transliteration or translation?

Olu317:
I thought you claim you have knowledge of both, since you argue without fact.

But I intentionally stated it when I know you have no knowledge of transliteration which was the reason I mock you with it . So whatever you deem fit,posits .

Meanwhile ọ̀rọ means word in another written book which is same as mine. Proof yours with either dictionary or written books, Mr. professor of diacritics

macof:


This is actually nonsense.

It is ọ̀rọ̀.
Do-do.

It seems you can't speak Yoruba? Because you ought to know both vowels are the same tone

Olu317:
I thought you claim you have knowledge of both, since you argue without fact.

But I intentionally stated it when I know you have no knowledge of transliteration which was the reason I mock you with it . So whatever you deem fit,posits .

Meanwhile ọ̀rọ means word in another written book which is same as mine. Proof yours with either dictionary or written books, Mr. professor of diacritics

Olu317:
do-do ni kan kọ̀ ni ó bá kọ́
o bá pè ni ọminmin ni

Professor macof of school of diacritics , do not teach me slidetackle Yorúbà or is it Yorúbá ? Please ride through the alternative route created for you.

Olu317:
I thought you claim you have knowledge of both, since you argue without fact.

But I intentionally stated it when I know you have no knowledge of transliteration which was the reason I mock you with it . So whatever you deem fit,posits .

Meanwhile ọ̀rọ means word in another written book which is same as mine. Proof yours with either dictionary or written books, Mr. professor of diacritics