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Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 7:55pm On Oct 18, 2017
Understanding the meaning of "Amen".

(Copied from our Whatsaap spiritual forum @Light House Of Wisdom)


[10/18, 07:15] Odogwuakataaka: Most times I do pray for people and they replied "Amen". Now I ask, what is Amen?


[10/18, 07:35] Osita Apapa: Amen is heavenly language ( let it be). Good morning my GM.


[10/18, 07:41] Rotimi Akwa Ibom: In Africa, we have our own way of affirming to prayers. The Igbos say Iseeee while d Yorubas say Aseeeee





([10/18, 07:35] Osita Apapa: Amen is heavenly language ( let it be). Good morning my GM.).......
[10/18, 07:42] Odogwuakataaka: Ok
[10/18, 07:43] Odogwuakataaka: @Osita So Amen is heavenly language right? Sounds interesting but unconvincing!
[10/18, 07:44] Odogwuakataaka: Do you convince me to share same belief that amen is heavenly language?
[10/18, 07:45] Odogwuakataaka: So now, you (can) speak heavenly language even though we leave here on earth? Waoo!
[10/18, 07:45] Odogwuakataaka: Church emebie obodo


[10/18, 07:45] Osita Apapa: No u're the GM, we follow ur foot step


[10/18, 07:46] Odogwuakataaka: So you wanna know about Amen which you often use?
[10/18, 07:46] Odogwuakataaka: Ok


[10/18, 07:47] Osita Apapa: Yes


[10/18, 07:47] Odogwuakataaka: Welcome to light house of wisdom where knowledge rules
[10/18, 07:48] Odogwuakataaka: Amen as it interest you to know is not a heavenly language neither is it a spiritual language but a Hebrew language "ei men" meaning truth.
[10/18, 07:50] Odogwuakataaka: This word was adopted by earlier Christians to which they affirm to prayer standing for "truthfully".
[10/18, 07:51] Odogwuakataaka: Since we are not Hebrews, now I ask, how wise is it we adopt Hebrews language for positive affirmations especially while we pray in our mother tongues or different language?
[10/18, 07:53] Odogwuakataaka: In occult we have words like "so mote it be"" which stands for positive affirmations, more powerful and meaningful than "Amen".
[10/18, 07:53] Odogwuakataaka: "So mote it be" is as same as "so shall it be"!
[10/18, 07:54] Odogwuakataaka: As a man, an image of god, a demi god, we have the power to mote a word and it be!
[10/18, 07:56] Odogwuakataaka: This is why we say "So I mote it be"! Which you read often as I normally affirm
[10/18, 07:57] Odogwuakataaka: In Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa or another language human can speak, we have better words greater than Amen


[10/18, 07:58] Osita Apapa: Ok the Grand Master. What's Occult?


[10/18, 07:59] Odogwuakataaka: "Iseee" is an Igbo affirmations generally accepted
[10/18, 08:01] Odogwuakataaka: Iseeee is an Igbo word standing for positive affirmations such like "otua". Otua ka o ga_adi_ so shall it be!
[10/18, 08:01] Odogwuakataaka: I still belief same for Yoruba "Aseeeee".
[10/18, 08:03] Odogwuakataaka: I often hear general public with "asee uuu" affirmations whenever am in their midst (talking about Yoruba's).
[10/18, 08:06] Odogwuakataaka: If this is the case, why must an Africa, Igbo, Yoruba, afik, urhorobo, ijaw, Ashanti, Afrikana, wolof, Hausa, Fulani, speak Hebrew in the name and belief for heavenly language?
[10/18, 08:06] Odogwuakataaka: You see how far Christian deceived us?
[10/18, 08:08] Odogwuakataaka: The most high gave us these languages and by his power we happen to speak and understand. Why can't we speak our language and be proud of our language? What is wrong with us?
[10/18, 08:08] Odogwuakataaka: Do you know I write, speak and understand French?
[10/18, 08:10] Odogwuakataaka: Do you know I still hear so many language and understand them, but of what use is it to me making use of it in spiritual cases whereas I have a mother tongue known and well understand by me and my angels (when it comes to spiritual matters)?
[10/18, 08:31] Odogwuakataaka: Therefore, I hereby make this public plea, from now henceforth, do not respond to me with the word "Amen". Say " Iseeee" or "So mote it be" or So shall it be. I can accept and understand it better.
[10/18, 08:31] Odogwuakataaka: Do respond "Aseeee" if you are Yoruba
[10/18, 08:32] Odogwuakataaka: Or any other form of positive affirmations in your dialect
[10/18, 08:32] Odogwuakataaka: It's high time we learn to speak our nature giving languages for better spiritual values
[10/18, 08:33] Odogwuakataaka: We are all Africans and must value our true origin in all form and formation
[10/18, 08:33] Odogwuakataaka: This is all I have to say
[10/18, 08:33] Odogwuakataaka: Let him who have ear hear!


[10/18, 08:44] Lawrence Ph: Interesting...thanks dear...we r blessed wit a beautiful day....ISEEEEEE!!!!!


[10/18, 08:47] Osita Apapa: So mote it be

Wao, this is an eye opener. I am voting for Aseeeeee going forward

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Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by Nbote(m): 8:03pm On Oct 18, 2017
Dis looks like a discussion carried out under d influence of something, most likely weed...
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by Hemcy1(m): 9:10pm On Oct 18, 2017
The OP and his WhatsApp friends are high on expired dog food.


Awon omo esu gbogbo. grin

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Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 8:48am On Oct 19, 2017
[10/18, 19:36] Umunna Christian Imo: Good-evening my very enlightened and wise Gm.. sir u gave us this assignment, which I decided to take it personal. Now I've came up with this result with a prv (i.e) *mthw 5:22* from *_KJV_* which says
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[10/18, 19:37] Umunna Christian Imo: Matthew 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.



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@Christian, As a young practitioner, do understand the Bible ( you read today) was not written in English. What we read in English today are
"translations" from other languages. The "New Testament" (where you cited Matthew: 5:22 .....hell fire) was written in Greek. We have so many mistranslations in the bible which includes Sheol, Hades, Tartarus and Gehenna (mistranslated to mean hell fire).

The concept of ‘eternal punishment in hell or hell fire’ is an unbiblical pagan doctrine which was embraced and Christianised by the Roman Catholic Church in the early centuries of Christianity, and made official when Jerome translated the Bible into Latin in the Latin Vulgate.

The doctrine of ‘everlasting punishment in hell or hell fire’ is founded upon a combination of mistranslations and misinterpretations of the following Hebrew and Greek words:

****Mistranslations of the Hebrew word sheol , and the Greek words
hades , tartarus and gehenna , to mean hell .
****Mistranslations of the Hebrew word owlam , and the Greek words aion and aionios, to mean forever or everlasting.


Hell is such an infinitely extreme and dreadfully fearful doctrine with respect to the fate of unbelievers, who are the vast majority of humanity, that surely God would have inspired clear, unambiguous statements about it in the Bible if it were true. Also, one would expect Bible translators, experts in the Hebrew and Greek languages, to be in complete agreement about how many times the word ‘hell’ occurs in the Bible. But the shocking fact is that the opposite is true.


All of the popular Protestant Bible versions like the King James Version (KJV), the American Standard Version (ASV), the New Revised Standard Version (NRSV), the New International Version (NIV) and the New King James Version (NKJV) do not agree with the Latin Vulgate, nor even between themselves, as to the number of times the word hell appears in the Bible.



Only in the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV does the word hell appear in the Old Testament of the Bible, but even these versions have wide disagreements on the number of times hell occurs in the Old Testament. The Latin Vulgate mentions hell 86 times, whereas the KJV mentions hell 31 times and the NKJV mentions hell only 19 times.

All versions of the Bible except for these three, the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV, reject any notion of hell occurring in the original Hebrew Manuscripts of the Old Testament.


Also, please especially note that the translators of the Jewish Publication Society Bible and the Tanakh/The Complete Jewish Bible disagree with the Latin Vulgate, the KJV and the NKJV by making no mention of hell whatsoever in their Bibles.
If the Jews, who are experts in their own Hebrew language, do not include hell in their Bibles, then this further confirms that there is not a single word that means hell in the Hebrew Manuscripts of the Old Testament.

There are also several Bible versions that reject any notion of hell occurring in the Greek Manuscripts of the New Testament. Among others, these versions include Young’s Literal Translation, Rotherham’s Emphasized Bible and the Emphatic Diaglott Greek/English Interlinear Bible.
These are amazing and shocking facts that should make any hell-believing Christian stop in his tracks, and start to seriously question the validity of the doctrine of hell.
Surely, the just and loving God (The Most High) of the Bible, who desires and wills all men to be saved, would have inspired clear, unambiguous statements in the Word of God about such an extreme doctrine as hell.

The truth of the matter is that there is not one single word in the Hebrew and Greek Manuscripts of the Bible that means hell. Undoubtedly, hell is a man-invented, pagan, unchristian, heretical belief that was first embraced and christianised by Roman Catholicism, and incorporated into the Bible by Jerome through his Latin Vulgate in the early history of Christianity.
Jerome mistranslated as many as four different words to mean hell. These words are: one Hebrew word sheol , and three Greek words hades , tartarus
and gehenna . These words do not mean hell.
This is Light House Of Wisdom where knowledge rules. We know nothing but the truth which shall save all souls. Don't be deceived!!!
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 1:37pm On Oct 20, 2017
[10/20, 07:48] Ezebili: I thankGod for being in this group
[10/20, 07:48] Ezebili: Knowing someone like you
[10/20, 07:49] Ezebili: But grand master can someone destiny be diverted?
[10/20, 07:50] Ezebili: I all hear stuffs like that...say people dy collect pesn destiny
[10/20, 07:50] Ezebili: Is it real?

[10/20, 07:51] Odogwuakataaka: Through spiritual medium, destiny can be manipulated
[10/20, 07:51] Odogwuakataaka: We call them destiny robbers.

[10/20, 07:52] Ezebili: Hmm

[10/20, 07:52] Odogwuakataaka: That's occult and knowledge

[10/20, 07:52] Ezebili: That means no one is safe

[10/20, 07:53] Odogwuakataaka: Everyone is safe
[10/20, 07:53] Odogwuakataaka: Knowledge keeps you safe

[10/20, 07:53] Ezebili: I heard if those destiny robbers av ur name and ur town that's all
[10/20, 07:54] Ezebili: Dy can collect ur destiny and u will turn ofeke for life

[10/20, 07:54] Odogwuakataaka: Wrong information. Its not done that way but many other possible ways. Mostly through hand shake

[10/20, 07:55] Ezebili: Hmm

[10/20, 07:56] Odogwuakataaka: Someone must not go at length of searching for your name and home town to rob off your destiny. Information passing along as a result of spiritual ignorant

[10/20, 07:56] Ezebili: Handshake ����

[10/20, 07:56] Olabode Ondo: Interesting
[10/20, 07:56] Olabode Ondo: Good morning gm

[10/20, 07:57] Odogwuakataaka: Your destiny is found on your palms

[10/20, 07:57] Ezebili: Yea I av heard of palm reading

[10/20, 07:58] Odogwuakataaka: Why must someone go extent to have it if he can have a hand shake with you?

[10/20, 07:58] Olabode Ondo: Gm, how can a person know that his/her destiny has been stolen

[10/20, 07:58] Ezebili: Hehe�

[10/20, 07:59] Olabode Ondo: And if stolen, how can it be recovered

[10/20, 07:59] Odogwuakataaka: There are obvious signs telling you the possible lost for destiny
[10/20, 08:00] Odogwuakataaka: Sometimes you dream fighting with strange faces/forces over your belongings
[10/20, 08:01] Odogwuakataaka: This is one of the obvious signs
[10/20, 08:02] Odogwuakataaka: You can possible notice this when you start going backwards after some period of success and progress made in life
[10/20, 08:02] Odogwuakataaka: Backwardness
[10/20, 08:03] Odogwuakataaka: These are obvious signs that your destiny was robbed off

[10/20, 08:03] Olabode Ondo: Noted sir
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 2:38pm On Oct 20, 2017
[10/20, 08:04] Ezebili: Sometimes I dream seeing myself in secondary school and in uniform..pls explain GM

******[10/20, 07:59] Olabode Ondo: And if stolen, how can it be recovered******
[10/20, 08:04] Odogwuakataaka: You can't fight it back as you fight your adversary using hands and legs to exchange blows: rather through spiritual medium
[10/20, 08:06] Odogwuakataaka: Consult a spiritualist to help you get back what is yours. As simple as that. He is the one to engage you on spiritual consult, through this medium, guides will be giving which he is to follow proceeds


****[10/20, 08:04] Ezebili: Sometimes I dream seeing myself in secondary school and in uniform..pls explain GM****
[10/20, 08:07] Odogwuakataaka: Hmmm! Very bad!
[10/20, 08:16] Odogwuakataaka: Our people would say, anaghi aga unyahu aga_ you don't go back to yesterday. Telling you that it's impossible and wrong for one to repeat whatever you did years ago today especially things that considered gone and stands for times. Do remember, there's time for everything under the sun. Seeing oneself with school uniform after many years of graduation from secondary/college is spiritual backwardness. It is such a bad dream that one shouldn't treat with keen glove. Having dreamt seeing yourself in college uniform after many years of graduations is like dreofeke

playing with your friends who died so many years back. Is that pleasant dream?
[10/20, 08:17] Odogwuakataaka: It spelt doom and shouldn't be ignored

[10/20, 08:24] Osita Apapa: Good morning the Grand Master
[10/20, 08:28] Osita Apapa: But can that last ritual set one free from such a backwards?

[10/20, 08:34] Ezebili: Gandmaster what should I do now about d dream?
[10/20, 08:34] Ezebili: My spiritual life ain't strong as such

[10/20, 08:37] Osita Apapa: Grand Master I need to be more spiritual

[10/20, 08:38] Ezebili: Evn me
[10/20, 08:38] Ezebili: I need to be spiritual
[10/20, 08:38] Ezebili: Am not the church type
[10/20, 08:38] Ezebili: I do go to church but not really interested in church
[10/20, 08:39] Ezebili: Fake men of God everywhere committing atrocities

[10/20, 08:44] Osita Apapa: I don't want to be ofeke. Iseeeeee!

[10/20, 08:45] Adomi: What is ofeke?

[10/20, 08:46] Olabode: Please, what is the meaning of *ofeke

[10/20, 08:49] Osita Apapa: Ofeke is like empty vessel which only makes noise b/c of the emptiness

[10/20, 08:50] Adomi: Wow. Most times am empty. Thank for the information

****[10/20, 08:24] Osita Apapa: Good morning the Grand Master
[10/20, 08:28] Osita Apapa: But can that last ritual set one free from such a backwards?****

[10/20, 08:53] Odogwuakataaka: Remember purposes for the last general rituals undertaken. We achieved it with great testimonies reading from feedback from participants including your humble self.

[10/20, 08:55] Osita Apapa: Yes the Grand Master

[10/20, 08:55] Odogwuakataaka: Nevertheless, before the ritual exercise, I made us understood something. I remembered telling us that "I Isimmili Igbo nille" bent to use this exercise to set you free from spiritual bondages.
[10/20, 08:57] Odogwuakataaka: I stated it clearly that no matter who you are and your spiritual ugly encounter, forces surrounding your existence, we are here to cause your divine breakthrough using knowledge and power as found in herbs, root, fruits and other natural materials.
[10/20, 08:58] Odogwuakataaka: But you see one thing. Am not a kind that like disturbances
[10/20, 08:58] Odogwuakataaka: My principles remains audience and obedience
[10/20, 08:59] Odogwuakataaka: If you can't fall below the rules, I have no dealing with you

[10/20, 08:59] Olabode: I noticed this in you

[10/20, 08:59] Ezebili: So mote it be
[10/20, 08:59] Ezebili: Iseeeeeeee

[10/20, 09:00] Osita Apapa: Iseeeeeeeeeeeeee

[10/20, 09:00] Odogwuakataaka: After the ritual exercise, I expected each and everyone of you to "ginger" me seeing the effect but none did
[10/20, 09:00] Odogwuakataaka: Or do you think a single swallow blows up the stomach?
[10/20, 09:02] Odogwuakataaka: Do you think all that your enemies did using different methods and ritual materials can only be averted in one ritual exercise?
[10/20, 09:02] Odogwuakataaka: That is not spiritual engagement?
[10/20, 09:02] Odogwuakataaka: You keep fit
[10/20, 09:03] Odogwuakataaka: I have so many other steps we can proceed on but you people are not reciprocating
[10/20, 09:03] Odogwuakataaka: Do I force you to gain freedom?

[10/20, 09:04] Osita Apapa: Sir everything at my side is still coming out positively

[10/20, 09:04] Odogwuakataaka: Never, I have works at hand and works for serious elites
[10/20, 09:04] Odogwuakataaka: So, if you show up with seriousness, we take your matter serious
[10/20, 09:05] Odogwuakataaka: I don't see why someone shouldn't be serious with this great forum where all services remains free?
[10/20, 09:06] Odogwuakataaka: But then I still understand less value as attached to free services. But we can't stop doing good for the people
[10/20, 09:06] Odogwuakataaka: That's my calling
[10/20, 09:08] Odogwuakataaka: Take the first ritual exercise as we did and some other exercises comes up if only you people shows interest
[10/20, 09:08] Odogwuakataaka: I can't force any body

[10/20, 09:08] Abigail Ilorin: Sir we appreciate all you are doing and we don't take it for granted

[10/20, 09:09] Odogwuakataaka: I have the divine obligations to do it and must do it anytime any day for anyone that is interested

****[10/20, 08:34] Ezebili: Gandmaster what should I do now about d dream?
[10/20, 08:34] Ezebili: My spiritual life ain't strong as such****

[10/20, 09:09] Odogwuakataaka: You make it strong then!
[10/20, 09:09] Odogwuakataaka: You owe your life to no one
[10/20, 09:10] Odogwuakataaka: Whatever you decide and chose comes to you through steps over it
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by Uhomanbulus110(f): 7:26pm On Oct 20, 2017
Amen means an agreetment for something to be done
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 6:50am On Oct 21, 2017
Uhomanbulus110:
Amen means an agreetment for something to be done


In Latin, Aramaic, Hebrew or Greek language?
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 6:50am On Oct 21, 2017
[10/20, 09:11] Odogwuakataaka: You can't achieve that there
h talk and belief but your seriousness in spiritual engagement through ritual exercise help manifestation
[10/20, 09:12] Odogwuakataaka: Odogwu is not guy name
[10/20, 09:12] Odogwuakataaka: Ife onye metara that what makes you Odogwu.
[10/20, 09:14] Odogwuakataaka: Its spiritual cases not physical case therefore your strength and skills is not gateway
[10/20, 09:15] Odogwuakataaka: In as much as you understand, here we are with the knowledge, power and forces you need for the movement
[10/20, 09:16] Odogwuakataaka: That's the purpose of the calling and been together here

[10/20, 09:16] Osita Apapa: After that ritual I dreamed and saw war every where no way of escape, but finally one king open his gate and save me

[10/20, 09:16] Ezebili: I am a graduate still seeking job grand master am trying to gather myself..whenever am ready you will do wrk for me

[10/20, 09:17] Odogwuakataaka: Good one! He who makes himself a fowl should wait and hope not to escape days of sacrifice..... Odogwuakataaka

[10/20, 09:18] Ezebili: I hail thee Grand master the man who sees in the spirit

[10/20, 09:20] Osita Apapa: The Grand Master, U're God sent to me

****[10/20, 08:45] Adomi: What is ofeke?
[10/20, 08:46] Olabode: Please, what is the meaning of *ofeke*****

[10/20, 09:20] Odogwuakataaka: Ofeke is a nonentity in Igbo land. He who does not understand left from right. More than being foolish.

[10/20, 09:22] Ezebili: Grand master the man who sees in the spirit
[10/20, 09:22] Ezebili: In the past if I hear about this spiritual stuff I will run away and call them idol worshipping

[10/20, 09:23] Adomi: Thank you sir.

[10/20, 09:23] Ezebili: I was seeing church as number 1 and where christ can save

****[10/20, 09:04] Osita Apapa: Sir everything at my side is still coming out positively****

[10/20, 09:23] Odogwuakataaka: So shall it be!

[10/20, 09:24] Osita Apapa: Iseeeeeeee

****[10/20, 09:08] Abigail Ilorin: Sir we appreciate all you are doing and we don't take it for granted***

[10/20, 09:26] Odogwuakataaka: Welcome! Seeing is believing!! What more do I say? May the gods and goddess never leave us while we run unto them. So I mote it be!

[10/20, 09:27] Ezebili: Iseeeeeeeee
[10/20, 09:27] Ezebili: Aseeeeeeeee

[10/20, 09:27] Adomi: Iseeeeeee

[10/20, 09:27] Olabode: Aseee

[10/20, 09:28] Ade Lagos: Good morning Great One. This teachings and expositions are great. It is revealing things to me, those things I was taking for granted, especially that dream of secondary school

[10/20, 09:29] Osita Apapa: So I mote it be

[10/20, 09:29] Ade Lagos: I was having these secondary school uniform dream about the time things started going bad for me
[10/20, 09:29] Ade Lagos: What do I do great GM?
[10/20, 09:29] Ade Lagos: I was not part of the last rituals because I just joined
[10/20, 09:30] Ade Lagos: GM please help

[10/20, 09:31] Odogwuakataaka: Do remember to introduce yourself in the forum. Let's know your name and location. Only that we required from you. Welcome to light house of wisdom where knowledge rules. Your happiness is our motto. Your being here is a divine mandate which you stand to accomplish in no distance times if only you agree to dance by the guide. Obedience is all you are required. Remember the words of Mary mother of Christ, "whatever the master asked you to do, do it"

[10/20, 09:31] Ade Lagos: I am Ade, I am in Lagos
[10/20, 09:32] Ade Lagos: I am ready to follow instructions

[10/20, 09:33] Chiamaka Anambra: Am chiamaka by name Anambra location

****[10/20, 09:16] Osita Apapa: After that ritual I dreamed and saw war every where no way of escape, but finally one king open his gate and save me****

[10/20, 09:33] Odogwuakataaka: Great! One with the angels is only save. No weapon formed against you shall prosper. Keep fit angels.
[10/20, 09:34] Odogwuakataaka: Is alright.

[10/20, 09:35] Osita Apapa: Iseeeeeeeeee

[10/20, 09:36] Odogwuakataaka: Odogwuakataaka! Anaghi ama aka!!

[10/20, 09:38] Osita Apapa: Confirmed, the Grand Master

*****[10/20, 09:22] Ezebili: Grand master the man who sees in the spirit
[10/20, 09:22] Ezebili: In the past if I hear about this spiritual stuff I will run away and call them idol worshipping****

[10/20, 09:39] Odogwuakataaka: Okay! Now you understand better? Its energy behind growth, natural science. There's a time to understand activities under the sun. Why we grow!!!

[10/20, 09:41] Osita Apapa: I agreed with u, the Grand Master
Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 8:34pm On May 26, 2018
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Re: Understanding The Meaning Of "Amen" And Why You Shouldn't Say "Amen" by bunbit23: 2:58am On May 27, 2018
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