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ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by highskies(m): 11:03pm On Mar 01, 2016
https://www.nairaland.com/2966187/muric-orders-yunusa-face-sharia


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPh3ecmkf7Q - Can the parents honestly explain to us how she learnt hausa?


I believe the parents of this young girl need to connect with their daughter emotionally. The marriage between Yinusa and Ese can only hold in Islam according to the following:

CONDITIONS FOR MARRIAGE (NIKAAH) IN ISLAM.

The conditions of a proper nikaah (marriage contract) are as follows:

1. Both the bride and groom should be clearly identified, whether by stating their names or describing them, etc.

2. Both the bride and groom should be pleased with one another, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No previously-married woman (widow or divorcee) may be married until she has been asked about her wishes (i.e., she should state clearly her wishes), and no virgin should be married until her permission has been asked (i.e., until she has agreed either in words or by remaining silent).” They asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, how is her permission given (because she will feel very shy)?” He said: “By her silence.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 4741)

3. The one who does the contract on the woman’s behalf should be her walee, as Allaah addressed the walees with regard to marriage (interpretation of the meaning): “And marry those among you who are single…” [al-Noor 24:32] and because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who marries without the permission of her walee, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 1021 and others; it is a saheeh hadeeth)

4. The marriage contract must be witnessed, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no marriage contract except with a walee and two witnesses.” (Reported by al-Tabaraani; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7558)

5. It is also important that the marriage be announced, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Announce marriages.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad; classed as hasan in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 1027)

The conditions of the walee are as follows:
1. He should be of sound mind
2. He should be an adult
3. He should be free (not a slave)
4. He should be of the same religion as the bride. A kaafir cannot be the walee of a Muslim, male or female, and a Muslim cannot be the walee of a kaafir, male or female, but a kaafir can be the walee of a kaafir woman for marriage purposes, even if they are of different religions. An apostate (one who has left Islam) cannot be a walee for anybody.
5. He should be of good character (‘adaalah – includes piety, attitude, conduct, etc.), as opposed to being corrupt. This is a condition laid down by some scholars, although some of them regard the outward appearance of good character as being sufficient, and some say that it is enough if he is judged as being able to pay proper attention to the interests of the woman for whom he isacting as walee in the matter of her marriage.
6. He should be male, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No woman may conduct the marriage contract of another woman, and no woman can conduct the marriage contract on behalf of her own self, because the zaaniyah (fornicatress, adulteress) is the one who arranges thingson her own behalf.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 1782; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7298)
7. He should be wise and mature (rushd), which means being able to understand matters of compatibility and the interests of marriage.

Let's all try and respect each other's faiths and beliefs. This Ese's issue has led to a smear campaign against Islam, Muslims, the Emir of Kano and so on.

This has also been aided the sensational media. Why the hate?

Please feel free to air your opinions bit please objectively.
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by TheLastIdiot: 11:11pm On Mar 01, 2016
Oh, how did I even get to this rubbish thread, lord!!! angry

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Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by highskies(m): 11:19pm On Mar 01, 2016
TheLastIdiot:
Oh, how did I even get to this rubbish thread, lord!!! angry

Why is it a Rubbish thread?
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by F22RAPTOR(m): 11:50pm On Mar 01, 2016
how can anybody in their right senses justify this crime? Smh...

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Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by frankyychiji(f): 11:52pm On Mar 01, 2016
highskies:


Why is it a Rubbish thread?
If according to you the girl and the boy has not committed any offence, how come the government and Islamic authorities are handing her back to her parents with apologies? Remember the boy too will be sanctioned.

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Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by BeClever: 12:13am On Mar 02, 2016
highskies:


Why is it a Rubbish thread?


Thank you Op for trying to let us into ur beliefs, but I have some questions for you.

1. You passage did not specify the expected age before a girl is to consent for marriage.. So we all in Nigeria agreed that eighteen should be the bench mark, right?

2. The girl's parents has been making all the necessary efforts for months to try to rescue their daughter, but some people seem it OK to haboured her and for months Police never thought they can attend to thus parents.

3. Non of you who are more interested to preserve you god's have been dead to the story side of the girls parent and had assimilated every info that came out of Emirs Palace with 1 doubt into his perceived involvement.

4. The girl is constitutionally under age and the issue of consent is null and void..

Do you hear?


Pls believe what you will and Pls only marry frm you believe, cos Christians are outraged with Islam.


Finally, if you are a Yoruba Muslim, then I have just wasted my time on you..so don't even bother replying.

Cos, most Yoruba Muslims are moderate..

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Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by BeClever: 12:19am On Mar 02, 2016
frankyychiji:
If according to you the girl and the boy has not committed any offence, how come the government and Islamic authorities are handing her back to her parents with apologies? Remember the boy too will be sanctioned.


He can't even think of saying that the boy did not commit an offence.

The boy is a Criminal and should rot in jail.
If proper investigation are carried out you will be dazed with what the outcome will be, but trust Buhari brothers and his Puppet security setting do the job of evidence padding.


This is a very deep and organized crime go wrong.. Unfortunately we ll never hear what police are doing from now on.. .but if it were to be in the SS SE.. U continue from here.. .
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by resty4(m): 1:01am On Mar 02, 2016
Op add pls, by kidnapg non muslim teenagers, forcifully conver t them 2 islam n forcifully married them. Many egs abound chibok girls ,eze, patience in benue state, yazedees tenage in iraq n syria, xritan girls in eygpt in fact d list too long 2 exhaust.
Islam na real wahala 4 d world.
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by ZKOSOSO(m): 5:57am On Mar 02, 2016
OP is not Human! Am sure it's robot. Almost sure!
Has d word CONSENT of PARENT ring any bell?

She was stolen, kidnapped, raped, force to join abominable Islam, endangered with Diseases and traumatised!

She is a minor! She is ESE not Aisha the 6yrs old intimacy gadget of Mohd
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by oglalasioux(m): 6:34am On Mar 02, 2016
highskies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPh3ecmkf7Q - Can the parents honestly explain to us how she learnt hausa?

I believe the parents of this young girl need to connect with their daughter emotionally. The marriage between Yinusa and Ese can only hold in Islam according to the following:

CONDITIONS FOR MARRIAGE (NIKAAH) IN ISLAM.

The conditions of a proper nikaah (marriage contract) are as follows:

1. Both the bride and groom should be clearly identified, whether by stating their names or describing them, etc.

2. Both the bride and groom should be pleased with one another, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No previously-married woman (widow or divorcee) may be married until she has been asked about her wishes (i.e., she should state clearly her wishes), and no virgin should be married until her permission has been asked (i.e., until she has agreed either in words or by remaining silent).” They asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, how is her permission given (because she will feel very shy)?” He said: “By her silence.” (Reported by al-Bukhaari, 4741)

3. The one who does the contract on the woman’s behalf should be her walee, as Allaah addressed the walees with regard to marriage (interpretation of the meaning): “And marry those among you who are single…” [al-Noor 24:32] and because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Any woman who marries without the permission of her walee, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid, her marriage is invalid.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 1021 and others; it is a saheeh hadeeth)

4. The marriage contract must be witnessed, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “There is no marriage contract except with a walee and two witnesses.” (Reported by al-Tabaraani; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7558)

5. It is also important that the marriage be announced, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Announce marriages.” (Reported by Imaam Ahmad; classed as hasan in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 1027)

The conditions of the walee are as follows:
1. He should be of sound mind
2. He should be an adult
3. He should be free (not a slave)
4. He should be of the same religion as the bride. A kaafir cannot be the walee of a Muslim, male or female, and a Muslim cannot be the walee of a kaafir, male or female, but a kaafir can be the walee of a kaafir woman for marriage purposes, even if they are of different religions. An apostate (one who has left Islam) cannot be a walee for anybody.
5. He should be of good character (‘adaalah – includes piety, attitude, conduct, etc.), as opposed to being corrupt. This is a condition laid down by some scholars, although some of them regard the outward appearance of good character as being sufficient, and some say that it is enough if he is judged as being able to pay proper attention to the interests of the woman for whom he isacting as walee in the matter of her marriage.
6. He should be male, as the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “No woman may conduct the marriage contract of another woman, and no woman can conduct the marriage contract on behalf of her own self, because the zaaniyah (fornicatress, adulteress) is the one who arranges thingson her own behalf.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 1782; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7298)
7. He should be wise and mature (rushd), which means being able to understand matters of compatibility and the interests of marriage.

Let's all try and respect each other's faiths and beliefs. This Ese's issue has led to a smear campaign against Islam, Muslims, the Emir of Kano and so on.

This has also been aided the sensational media. Why the hate?

Please feel free to air your opinions bit please objectively.

The girl is a minor. Her parents are supposed to be making decisions for her until she becomes an adult at 18. Since her parents' consent was not sought and obtained, the marriage should be voided and the child returned to them.
Islam and other religions have noble admonitions but we must agree that they have aspects that must be shelved in today's world.
Thanks for giving us the view from Islam. There's always two sides to a story.
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by highskies(m): 7:20am On Mar 02, 2016
oglalasioux:


The girl is a minor. Her parents are supposed to be making decisions for her until she becomes an adult at 18. Since her parents' consent was not sought and obtained, the marriage should be voided and the child returned to them.
Islam and other religions have noble admonitions but we must agree that they have aspects that must be shelved in today's world.
Thanks for giving us the view from Islam. There's always two sides to a story.

My point exactly, the parents are responsible for the girl and their CONSENT is paramount as stated in the body of my post.

Investigation should be channeled properly and Islam should not be mixed with Yinusa. If Yinusa is found wanting by the law of the federal Republic of Nigeria , he should be tried and if he is a minor should be treated as such. However proper investigation is required.

The legal age of self determination for marriage in Nigeria is 18. Islam does not abolish the laws governing a society such as ours (mixed), it however acts as a way of life for Muslims.

Islam shouldn't be confused with Muslims. We have good muslims likewise bad ones, similarly we have good Christians likewise bad ones. We can't however use a sample (small number) to judge a population in all cases.

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Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by joseph1832(m): 7:29am On Mar 02, 2016
OP she's too way to convert to Islam, so what are you even saying?.
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by highskies(m): 7:34am On Mar 02, 2016
ZKOSOSO:
OP is not Human! Am sure it's robot. Almost sure!
Has d word CONSENT of PARENT ring any bell?

She was stolen, kidnapped, raped, force to join abominable Islam, endangered with Diseases and traumatised!

She is a minor! She is ESE not Aisha the 6yrs old intimacy gadget of Mohd

Did u read the post at all? If u did, u would have seen the Condition to void a marriage amongst them is CONSENT OF THE GUARDIAN (WALEE).

When do u think Girls in the UK, US or Middle East attain maturity?

How often have we heard of child rape, pornography and prostitution? Are u saying that its the muslims that are responsible for all these?

Islam encourages early marriage on a society by society basis so as to discourage the ills we have in the society now. STDs, Homosexuality, Unwanted pregnancies, Prostitution, etc. What do u think propagates all these?

You should learn to respect other People's religious beliefs. The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) was NEVER a pedophile.

"The majority of traditional hadith sources state that Aisha was married to Muhammad at the age of six or seven, but she stayed in her parents' home until the age of fifteen when the marriage was consummated with the Prophet, then 53, in Medina."
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by highskies(m): 7:47am On Mar 02, 2016
BeClever:



Thank you Op for trying to let us into ur beliefs, but I have some questions for you.

1. You passage did not specify the expected age before a girl is to consent for marriage.. So we all in Nigeria agreed that eighteen should be the bench mark, right?

2. The girl's parents has been making all the necessary efforts for months to try to rescue their daughter, but some people seem it OK to haboured her and for months Police never thought they can attend to thus parents.

3. Non of you who are more interested to preserve you god's have been dead to the story side of the girls parent and had assimilated every info that came out of Emirs Palace with 1 doubt into his perceived involvement.

4. The girl is constitutionally under age and the issue of consent is null and void..

Do you hear?


Pls believe what you will and Pls only marry frm you believe, cos Christians are outraged with Islam.


Finally, if you are a Yoruba Muslim, then I have just wasted my time on you..so don't even bother replying.

Cos, most Yoruba Muslims are moderate..

Yoruba Muslims Moderate? Well I don't know what u mean by that.

The issue of Age lies at the discretion of,

1. Law governing the land if any or,
2. Discretion of the matured guardian then consent of the Lady.

You are speculative in some of ur statements like the one concerning the Emir and the parents. Were the parents at the Emir's palace to see him or complain?

From the video,
1. How did she learn hausa?
2. Why is she reluctant to go back home? (she could have been brainwashed right?)
3. Where are the parents up to this moment? Relaxed and at home in Bayelsa?
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by highskies(m): 7:52am On Mar 02, 2016
frankyychiji:
If according to you the girl and the boy has not committed any offence, how come the government and Islamic authorities are handing her back to her parents with apologies? Remember the boy too will be sanctioned.

The boy will be sanctioned IF he actually kidnapped the girl.

What if it turns out they both consented to fleeing to Kano?

And how is Yinusa-Ese story encouraged by Islam in anyway if you actually digested my post?

https://www.nairaland.com/2966187/muric-orders-yunusa-face-sharia
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by OBAGADAFFI: 7:59am On Mar 02, 2016
@OP who Converted Ese to Islam.
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by frankyychiji(f): 8:27am On Mar 02, 2016
highskies:


The boy will be sanctioned IF he actually kidnapped the girl.

What if it turns out they both consented to fleeing to Kano?

And how is Yinusa-Ese story encouraged by Islam in anyway if you actually digested my post?

https://www.nairaland.com/2966187/muric-orders-yunusa-face-sharia
Consent from a 13yrs old??


From your analogy, all Islamic marriage rites were observed and so according to you again, the boy did no wrong.
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by frankyychiji(f): 8:30am On Mar 02, 2016
BeClever:



He can't even think of saying that the boy did not commit an offence.

The boy is a Criminal and should rot in jail.
If proper investigation are carried out you will be dazed with what the outcome will be, but trust Buhari brothers and his Puppet security setting do the job of evidence padding.


This is a very deep and organized crime go wrong.. Unfortunately we ll never hear what police are doing from now on.. .but if it were to be in the SS SE.. U continue from here.. .
If the boy had been from southern Christian family, every church and Christian in sight would have gone up in ashes.

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Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by drss(m): 8:49am On Mar 02, 2016
taqiyya alert!!!!!!!!!!!
Re: ESE ORURU: Islamic Perspective by BeClever: 9:11am On Mar 02, 2016
highskies:


Yoruba Muslims Moderate? Well I don't know what u mean by that.

The issue of Age lies at the discretion of,

1. Law governing the land if any or,
2. Discretion of the matured guardian then consent of the Lady.

You are speculative in some of ur statements like the one concerning the Emir and the parents. Were the parents at the Emir's palace to see him or complain?

From the video,
1. How did she learn hausa?
2. Why is she reluctant to go back home? (she could have been brainwashed right?)
3. Where are the parents up to this moment? Relaxed and at home in Bayelsa?


Please read and understand the first story that busted the kegs, before coming to challenge my assertions..

The girls parents has done everything humanly possible to retrieve their child from the evil grip before this time..

I said Yoruba Muslims are moderate and I can repeat it anyday even at gun point, despite the fact that first suicide bomber of a Nigerian decent is Yoruba.. They are still moderate..

Yoruba Muslim and Christians marry each other with the faith of both husband and wife respected.

In some Yoruba home, a husband can be a Muslim while the wife a Christian you never see them for oneday quarrel over faith..

If you can't call that moderate then stop quoting me..

Hausa Islam blended with there culture is a POO.. Big Poo for that matter.

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