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Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by KissCODE(m): 2:30pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Quakertellicus1:lolzzz Please who are the surties? The only qualification of the person that will surety Yunusa is 3million. Which Kano Emirate & sharia commission will bring without strugle and give to anybody who maybe a nobody to go stand in for Yunusa. Then Kano will withdraw yunusa from the public and that will be the end. Loking at all the antics of both Yunusa‘s father & his legal team you will know it is over... Unless miracle happens |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by ziccoit: 2:36pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Nnabugwu8590: I'm not a court bros. I'm only commenting on what court has done now what it failed to do. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Otapipia: 2:42pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken:I quite understand your sentiments and arguments. Remember we are talking about bail and not substantive matters. In this particular case, bail couldn't have been denied by the learned trial judge. As serious as the offence might be, it is very bailable. Don't cast aspersion on the integrity of a judge just because you habour a divergent opinion. Cheers bro. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Nobody: 2:46pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
KissCODE: As the ruling puts it...the sureties must be 1.Based in Bayelsa state 2.Working in Bayelsa State From the ruling... The accused, Yunusa Dahiru, was granted a bail of N3m and two sureties of like sum who must present three years tax-clearance receipts to be verified by the Court Registrar. In other words....a Bayelsa civil servant of grade 12 and above and a Bayelsa traditional ruler....with tax clearance receipts. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by dyn1800: 3:04pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Don't mind them......maybe they want the judge to Sentence To death by Hanging Quakertellicus1: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Nnabugwu8590: 3:13pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
ziccoit:Hahaha, my dear, you are very very funny. On a serious note, I put it to you that you are still partial since you didn't bother to care about what the court did in the past concerning some bailable cases that were politically configured to be unbailable cases. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 3:26pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
I doubt if you are a practising lawyer because if you are, you will know that it is quite risky to grant the accused bail. The accused will most likely abscond, especially when he knows that both the Government, the masses and even the international bodies are very much interested in his case. Anyway, granting of bail is at the court's discretion, however, the judge has to use such a discretion judiciously and judicially. Any good prosecutor who knows his onions should be able to convince the judge not to grant the accused bail as that is most likely going to be disastrous. If you have more argument to make in this case, you can channel your attention towards contacting Yunusa so that you can defend him pro bono (free of charge). Am not here to compete on who a better lawyer is. I rest my case. Otapipia: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 3:32pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 3:34pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
My dear he can. The infamous Emir of Kano State (Sanusi) will take care of that. Quite pathetic. fabulousmann: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 3:38pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
In other words you are saying it is right to circumvent justice in order to please the Muslim community? Where was the Muslim community when Yunusa and many others abducted many under aged girls and turned them into their sex slaves? SMH. Mike008: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 3:44pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Is that the issue? What makes you think Sanusi can't help him with it? Obynolee: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Obynolee(f): 3:48pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken: It is an issue, how about the surties? |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Otapipia: 3:48pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken:Shocked to know you're a lawyer. I have no arguments to make in this case and I will not render an unsolicited consultancy to Yunusa. He has been granted bail and rightly so. As a member of the Bar which you claim to be, it's wrong to cast aspersions on the integrity of a judge for any reason. Just take a hint. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by ziccoit: 3:52pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Nnabugwu8590: Don't let us go that route bros, you may end up hating me if I choose to follow your line of argument. Have a nice day. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 3:58pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Let me tell you what you don't know or maybe you are purposely feigning ignorance of: Though Yunusa is not the first Northern Muslim to abduct/rape a Southern Christian girl and converted her to a Muslim, his case is the 1st popularised of such cases and still the most popularised up till now. Potential Christian female minor abductors are watching to see how this case goes. If the case is treated with kid gloves like you are advocating for, they may dare the little consequences and abduct girls in the future, knowing fully well that the courts will grant them bail and that their lawyers can delay the trial, meaning they can be free to roam about and abduct/rape more girls so long as the case lingers. This matter must be handled well and the judge should not be sentimental towards the accused so as to serve as a deterrent to potential abductors. MadCow1: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Coolgent(m): 4:24pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
I don hear dis one but wait how comes yunusa got 2 sureties of level 12? Where did he got the money to pay for lawyer? As for 3millions naira i know say some nairalanders are major contributors |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by MadCow1: 4:27pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken: You shot yourself in the foot with this post.. I couldn't stop laughing when I read it. Easy on your use of 'Feigning Ignorance', especially when you are about to speak on a subject you are not fully equipped to discuss. First of all, you say the judge should not be sentimental yet everything you have written in your post reeks of nothing but sheer sentiments. Thank God you are not the Judge or on the jury (assuming this was a trial by Jury matter). Listen Madam, go and find out why the legal symbol for justice worldwide has a blindfolded lady... That means Justice does not pay attention to anything else other than the facts. Its not interested in if Christian little girls are watching, if the Muslims are watching or whatever else you feel or are feeling. Yinusa's case is not as straight forward as you think. The Prosecution still has the burden of proof to establish here. If you think its going to be easy, then you have no idea about Law and/or legal process. Yinusa is charged with the following offences; abduction, coercion, seduction into illicit intercourse, sexual exploitation and unlawful carnal knowledge of a Minor. Yinusa under the law is entitled to have legal representation and is entitled to a free and fair hearing devoid of and bias or sentiments. Under the law, there are actually a hand full of cases where the Judge is statutorily obligated to deny bail mostly in cases involving murder, attempted murder and rape. But even then, a Judge can grant bail at his discretion in almost all cases especially if the defendant does not pose a flight risk and is a first time offender. So why should Yinusa be denied bail just because it goes against the feelings of a few? If his Lawyers decide to exploit the legal loopholes and gets the case thrown out on a technicality (Which can happen), why shouldn't he? If you must hold anybody to ransom, hold the prosecution.. Not the judge and not the defense attorney. If the prosecution fails to prove their case beyond reasonable doubt, Yinusa Yellow would walk away Scott free and under the rule of Double jeopardy, you cant try a person twice for the same offense. Dont hate the player darling, hate the game. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Mykelpato(m): 4:42pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Buhari sef... Nawa for this country. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 4:55pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
You can keep talking out of point and copy and paste as much as you like. The fact remains that Yunusa should not have been granted bail in this case. You are entitled to your opinion but you can't impose it on me. Am talking from the angle of a Chief State Counsel who has been prosecuting criminals and accused persons for long. If you are laughing about the few omissions which I later modified, then you must be really childish. I have a legal opinion am working on, and I come here intermittently to ease off so I may not have time to edit my comments before posting. There are always two sides to a case: the side of the defence and the side of the prosecution. You are here to defend your party but I am on the side of justice. Yunusa's act is repugnant to natural justice, equity and good conscience and must be condemned by all men and women of goodwill. You may keep impressing your pay masters for more rice and brown envelope. I have better things to do. BYE. MadCow1: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 4:56pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
You can talk to the hand. Otapipia: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 4:57pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
It is the easiest thing to arrange, especially with a judge who already appears to be biased. Obynolee: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Otapipia: 5:02pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken:Haba, Mr. Lawyer |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by MadCow1: 5:26pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken: Not a Fact.. In law, you must base everything upon the provision of the law.. Just because Mr. Tunde Bakare says we should chop off Yinusa' diick, does not make chopping off dicks a 'FACT OF LAW'. So can you kindly tell us what law barrs the judge from granting bail to Yinusa? amtaken: I didnt give you an opinion I pulled out of thin air, I gave you the statutes of LAW! Since you are a Public prosecutor as you claim, can you tell us from your legal experience on what LEGAL basis would you ask the judge to deny Mr. Yinusa bail. amtaken: I will be interested in reading it when you are done. Hopefully its better presented and devoid of sentiments unlike this and your previous post. amtaken: You are not on the side of justice just because you say you are Madam. Justice is devoid of sentiment and thats what you have consistently presented as your case. The Accused did not murder his victim, did not ry to run even when the spotlight was on him, did not resist arrest and has been coporative from the beginning of this case and yet you have a problem with him being granted bail in a bailable case.. What Justice are you talking about? The justice that denies Yinusa access to due process of law or what? amtaken: You think I am defending his act? Again, you betray your claim to being a "Chief State Counsel".. Nothing in my post (Both this and the previous) has given off any inclination that I support or condone the charges being brought against Yinusa. But though I dont support it, I will not stand on the side of bias and deny him access to due legal process. In this case, and all other cases like this, the ONUS (Meaning: Burden of Prooof) lies squarely on the prosecution. If the Prosecution fails to make their case, Yinusa would walk away Free. amtaken: Madam Chief State counsel.. I have met Secondary School students that can put up a better legal argument than this sentiment filled drivel you have posted so far. When someone is beating you intellectually in a debate, its really not a smart move to divulge into insults as no matter the insults you hurl at your opponent, your opinion would not appear more intelligible than they actually are.. I hope the better things you have doing involved getting a proper education that includes the ability to reason broadly and without sentiments cos so far, you have failed miserably in your bid to prove why Mr. Yinusa should be denied bail.. P.S: I am not even a Lawyer, let alone a "Chief State Counsel" yet I just schooled you in law.. Sentiments really does becloud better judgement. Thanks for stopping by Kimosabe. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 5:39pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Let me know when you are ready to talk like a human being because for now you are typing from a paid e-rat point of view. I can only deduce one thing from the jargon you wrote: you did not read my comment where I quoted the Bail Act 1976 and stated four factors that can lead to non-granting of bail to an accused person by a court, and also argued my case based on factors 1 and 4. You may need to search for that comment above as I cannot keep going back and forth to please an Aisha rice eater and a brown envelope hunter. You are free to say whatever you like about me, it doesn't in any way change who I am. I AM WHO I AM AND WHO YOU PERCEIVE ME TO BE MATTERS NOT. I see that you have deviated from the matter at hand to some childish stuff and trust me I won't tour that slippery route with you. Do not quote me again, unless of course you enjoy being ignored. Let me even look at your moniker for the 1st time so that I will shun your silly comments. You can go ahead and talk to the hand. I have better things to do with my time. Cheers! MadCow1: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by fabulousmann(f): 5:40pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken:I don't ddi emir can do anything abt this one. do u knw the bail conditions? |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 5:43pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Yes I do. Which part of the bail condition do you think the Emir can't handle? fabulousmann: |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by MadCow1: 5:59pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken: I have been civil with you in all my post except for where you decided it was a smart move to insult me.. Still, I responded to you with more respect than you actually deserve. amtaken: Lol.. I quoted you in all my response to you.. You may edit your posts later but I know I read your post before responding and you made no mention of any such Bail act.. However, Be that as it may; 1. The Bail act of 1976 is based on UK law not NIGERIAN LAW which is the jurisdiction under which this case is being heard. 2. I took the liberty to call up the U.K Bail Act of 1976 and I cant find what "FACTORS' you are refering to.. In law you quote articles, sections and sub-sections.. Which exactly are you refering to.. Below is the link to the UK Bail Act of 1976.. Fire away http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1976/63 amtaken: Aisha Rice eater.. Really?! You are free to say whatever you like about me, it doesn't in any way change who I am. Your post goes a long way to describe you to your readers.. And your post my dear, betrays everything you claim to be. amtaken: See who is trying to take the high road all of a sudden... Its too late to act like a lady darling.. You already acted like a tramp in your last post. amtaken: Hahahahaa... Thats rich.. After three posts, she now notices the Moniker. Goodluck in whatever it is you actually do cos with your Intelligence Quotient, God knows you would need all the luck you can get. So long Chief State Counsel Kimosabe. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by MadCow1: 6:03pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Otapipia: Shocked you said.. Biitch is actually dumber than a 5 grader. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Nobody: 6:31pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
LadyExcellency: Wailing wailer |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Obynolee(f): 6:32pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
amtaken: How has he appeared biased?, they can arrange a title holder within the jurisdiction of the court?.Remember that if the trial judge refused bail application, an appeal can be made and a higher court can grant the bail.I think the judge is reasonable or has done well in granting the accused bail with such stringent conditions. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by Osyabj: 6:33pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Count 5 of Yinusa's charges is punishable by Life Imprisonment, therefore his bail should have been denied. The real recipient and rappist of Ese, Paedophile Sanusi, will see that the trafficker does not return to trial. If anything happens to the Trafficker Yinusa, while on bail, you can bee sure that Sanusi arranged it. Here are the charges against the Child Trafficker for money who boasted that he trafficked Ese to paedophile Sanusi and that Sanusi will make him rich!!! Watch this AIT video now.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_VdzmtLeZQ&itct=CAsQpDAYASITCJ-n2tf5nssCFdG7fgod_lQKWlISZXNlIG9ydXJ1IGFiZHVjdGVk&gl=NG&hl=en&client=mv-google Child Trafficker for Money, Yinusa ‘s Charges and Punishments: Count 1: “That you Yunusa Dahiru, …Conspired among yourself to commit an offence to wit: Abduction and thereby committed an offence punishable under section 27 (a) of the Trafficking in Persons (prohibition) Enforcement and Administration Act, 2015. Punishment : 5 Years in Prison and 500,000 Naira fine. Count 2: “That you Yunusa Dahiru, …abducted one Rita Ese Oruru ‘f’ aged 14 years by means of coercion, transported and harboured her in Kano state and thereby committed an offence punishable under section 13 (2) (b) of the Trafficking in Persons (prohibition) Enforcement and Administration Act, 2015 Punishment: 2 or More years in Prison and 250,000 Naira or more in fine.. Count 3: “That you Yunusa Dahiru,… induced one Rita Ese Oruru ‘f’ aged 14 years by the use of deception and coercion to go with you from Yenagoa to Kano state with intent that she be forced or seduced into illicit intercourse and thereby committed an offence punishable under section 15 (a) of the Trafficking in Persons (prohibition) Enforcement Administration Act, 2015. Punishment: 5 Years in Prison and 500,000 Naira fine Count 4: “That you Yunusa Dahiru, …procured one Rita Ese Oruru ‘f’ aged 14 years and subjected her into sexual exploitation in Kano state and thereby committed an offence punishable under section 16 (1) of the Trafficking in person (prohibition) Enforcement and Administration Act, 2015. Punishment: 7 Years or More in Prison and 1 million Naira or more in fine Count 5: That you Yunusa, … had unlawful carnal knowledge of one Rita Ede Oruru ‘f’ aged 14 years, without her consent and thereby committed an offence contrary to section 357 of the Criminal Code Act and punishable under section 358 of the Criminal Code Act, Cap. C. 38, Laws of the Federation of Nigerian, 2004. Punishment: Imprisonment for life, with or without caning. Due to national outrage upon conviction, the Trafficker, Yinusa will get between 50 years to Life Imprisonment if convicted on Count 5 alone. So anyone supporting this case of Child trafficking, kidnapping, Abduction, Rape, Slavery and Sexual ritual in Emir of kano, Sanusi's palace must be a Paedophile. So Ese is a case of Child trafficking, kidnapping, Abduction, by Yinusa, and a case of Rape, Slavery and Sexual ritual by Paedophile Emir of kano, Sanusi. Period. Where as the child trafficker for money, Yinusa may get 50 years to Life imprisonment for his trafficking, the Serial Paedophile, Sanusi who was the Real Reciepient of Ese, who drugged, rapped and imprignated her, right inside his palace in Kano, may never be jailed for a day. Thats the sad commentary on Nigeria Criminal Justice system. Now it appears a compromised judge bribed by Paedophile sanusi's hired 5 SANs will make the trafficker escape justice. In advanced democracies a high profile, national case that attracts Life Imprisonment will NEVER will granted bail. The risk of flight outweighs the right to bail. Keeping the trafficker for money, Yinusa in jail during trial is part of the punishment, where he told the world after his arraignment that he had carnal knowledge with a minor...which is rape. Sad, Sad, Sad. |
Re: Ese Oruru’s Parents Stage Walkout As Court Grants Yunusa Bail-the Leadership by amtaken(f): 6:55pm On Mar 22, 2016 |
Right of Appeal by the defendant does not stop the judge from doing the right thing. Arranging for a title holder is one of the simplest things to do. Am done with this thread. Am not a paid e-rat so I can't spend the whole day on this matter. Have a good night rest. Obynolee: |
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