Icon4s:


You only mentioned "we will know with subsequent matches" after I stated "it was too early to make such conclusions". Remember I asked you if you have seen any other of Rohr's team's play of which you said no.

This Balogun and "Ball playing" thing also came from that match.

Nothing wrong in you trying to understand a coach or a player. But how you present how well you know the coach's pattern matters.

goldfish80:


Yes strategies can bring down the numbers. So let me get you correct, Leon balogoun is capable of posting 85%+ throughthe season, but Martin Schmid's strategies at Mainz is the reasons numbers are down to 75%?

Was Pellegrinis "long ball" strategy the cause of Kolorovs 56% pass completion?

tbaba1234:
As regards pass completion percentages, the style of your team matters.

Last season, in the premier league last season, the defenders with the highest pass percentages were

Gabriel (Arsenal)
Terry (Chelsea)
Mertersacker (Arsenal)
Mangala (Man city)
Kosceilny (Arsenal)
Demichelis (Man city)

What do you notice? The Defenders are from teams that like to pass the ball for the most part. top teams.

[b]Mid table defenders start coming in between 85-75%... [/b]Less passing and more long balls upfield.

Stats can be dependent on the style of football played by the team. The most passing, the higher the stats.

TheGoodJoe:


I do not know, please enlighten me, so I do not deviate.

tbaba1234:
As regards pass completion percentages, the style of your team matters.

Last season, in the premier league last season, the defenders with the highest pass percentages were

Gabriel (Arsenal)
Terry (Chelsea)
Mertersacker (Arsenal)
Mangala (Man city)
Kosceilny (Arsenal)
Demichelis (Man city)

What do you notice? The Defenders are from teams that like to pass the ball for the most part. top teams.

Mid table defenders start coming in between 85-75%... Less passing and more long balls upfield.

Stats can be dependent on the style of football played by the team. The most passing, the higher the stats.

forgiveness:
Joel Asoro and Joshua Maja should be invited to the National team with immediate effect.

Icon4s:


What of Joel Asorock and Majek Fashek?

TheGoodJoe:


There is no need dribbling the point. You made it look as if Mainz is some kind of tiki taka team and Balogun not pulling over 85% passing stats.

You have seen the team is weak at keeping possession. There is no need trying to dribble with this or that. Mainz is a weak team at keeping possession. Balogun pulling a 75% pass completion shows he is good in a very weak possessive team.

Icon4s:


Starting Sadiq Umar vs Starting Odion Ighalo.

You said you would start Sadiq ahead of Ighalo if Sadiq did "better" in training.

goldfish80:

Putting 75% pass completion does not show he is good at passing but his teams limitations are cutting him short. If his numbers were close to 80%,like a 78+,then you are talking.

For example, Shkodran Mustafi last season with all Valentia troubles on and off the pitch, he still managed to post 79.8%... This season his numbers have gone up to almost 90% in a more settled side. But his passing abilities where never in doubt in a very poor valentia side.

Icon4s:
Obinna Nwobodo doing wonders for Rangers vs Ikorodu. Game live on super sports select.

goldfish80:

Obinja is right among the cream de la creame of naija talents. He is a marvel to watch in midfield.
Whats the scores please?

goldfish80:

Leon's stat come in at 75% which is the baseline of your prognosis. This tells me he is just an average passer not excellent like we are been fed with here by TheGoodJoe

forgiveness:


Now that we are benefitting from this foreign grown player, many people have forgotten how they castigated me for demanding for their injection into the national team.

Thank God he didn't slip from our hand like Alaba, Dele Alli and Ross Barkley.

I hope Sheyi Ojo and little Messi(Bobby Adekanye) are given the opportunity to play for their fatherland.

Bobby Adekanye was rejected by Emmanuel Amuneke but I can't see any any player in his team as good as him.

TheGoodJoe:


The thing is settled. You just want to prolong a finished argument.

Icon4s:


Ikorodu 0-2 Rangers.

32 years trophy drought about to end for Rangers.

tbaba1234:


I said start coming in, I was not giving a range. We have good defenders with less than 75% like Wes Morgan for Leicester last season.

I do not think, it is a good measure of how good a passer a player is, unless you control for the team's style of play.

Icon4s:


Ikorodu 0-2 Rangers.

32 years trophy drought about to end for Rangers.

goldfish80:

Wes Morgan is atrocious on the ball. Am not surprised by his stats

Icon4s:
Obinna Nwobodo doing wonders for Rangers vs Ikorodu. Game live on super sports select.

TheSuperNerd:
Good.... So now that Leon is out... We stick to Omeruo and Troost as a CB pair. You got a problem with that?? Or you still envisage more injuries......

forgiveness:



e pain am!

goldfish80:

Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Enugu Rangers is another champion

goldfish80:

Their is nothing to prolong here. Leon is an average passer and he is not as comfortable as you think on the ball.
Even in that Tanzanian game, he had a wobbly moment when he was put under a bit of pressure in the second half. He totally miss kicked a simply pass, the intended pass went backward to Ikeme.
I remember also in a game in Kaduna, he had one of those moments on the ball. I thought it was anxiety but I have figured out he is not that good on the ball after all

OdenigboAroli:


Rangers about to breaks 37yrs jinx of not winning the Premier league. Nwaobodo score one and assited Uchegbulem with his13th goal of the season.

goldfish80:

Holy! Holy! Holy! Holy! Enugu Rangers is another champion

ChrisKels:
Seeing Ikorodu versus Rangers match now. Scoreline 0:2 in Favour of Rangers. Obinna NWOBODO is a class apart. Afor muru gi, muru onye egwu

goldfish80:

Putting 75% pass completion does not show he is good at passing but his teams limitations are cutting him short. If his numbers were close to 80%,like a 78+,then you are talking.

For example, Shkodran Mustafi last season with all Valentia troubles on and off the pitch, he still managed to post 79.8%... This season his numbers have gone up to almost 90% in a more settled side. But his passing abilities where never in doubt in a very poor valentia side.

Icon4s:


Quality young players still play in our league.

TheGoodJoe:


The thing is settled. You just want to prolong a finished argument.