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Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by bitingcool: 12:02pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
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Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by alisheriff: 12:08pm On Feb 01, 2018 |
it is recommended to reply greeting in the same way or which is even greater than what they greet you with. the question now is, did the Islam has it mode of greeting or it doesn't. if it yes how? Yoruba will say eku aaro, eka san o e.t.c for greeting while kneeling and the elders will reply aajire bi if it is morning, then they will pray for the young or child if it happens to be the parent been greeted. this is the mode of greeting in Yoruba culture, ALLAH A'LAM but what I think is most preferable is too be conscious of Allah (s.w.t) in the varied aspect of what you uphold in mind, because the standing in prayer is with bending in such a way that you will be looking down to where you will put your forehead,and in every standing bending and prostrating we do all says Allahu Akbar meaning Allah is the greatest, I think we should be conscious of this as well. even there is an ayah that idkulul l-baba sujada( surootul baqarrah verse 58) Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 58: وَإِذْ قُلْنَا ادْخُلُوا هَٰذِهِ الْقَرْيَةَ فَكُلُوا مِنْهَا حَيْثُ شِئْتُمْ رَغَدًا وَادْخُلُوا الْبَابَ سُجَّدًا وَقُولُوا حِطَّةٌ نَّغْفِرْ لَكُمْ خَطَايَاكُمْ وَسَنَزِيدُ الْمُحْسِنِين َ And when We said: Enter this city, then eat from it a plenteous (food) wherever you wish, and enter the gate making obeisance, and say, forgiveness. We will forgive you your wrongs and give more to those who do good (to others). (English - Shakir) via iQuran, the word sujud is also used here and its clear that they don't prostrate but some how bow while moving in, so I think the question we should be forwarding is bending, kneeling applicable in other affairs apart from greeting, like taking a food on some ones hand while kneeling to be given to ones parent or elders, because all those ayat in which our beloved brother(albaqir) brought does not bring greeting in except the mutual respect between fatimoh(r.a.h)and his father(saaw) in which the Yoruba can never do( the parent will never stand up to welcome their children talkless of kneeling to welcome them but they only prefer sitting, lying down while the children stand or kneel to welcome or greet them- this is obvious differeces). Allahu a'alm. Asalam alaekum warahmatullah wabarakatuh |
Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by BetaThings: 4:38pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
AlBaqir: Thanks for clarifying this The sujood normally done by shia on the turbah (clay pebble) carried around by Shia is incomplete. They claim they want to prostrate on the earth. The turbah that shias carry around allows them to put only their forehead on what they regard as "the earth". The other six bones are on rug or carpet. If the shias claim that sunnis praying on a rug are not following the sunna, Shias too are not! 1 out of 7 is not pass mark 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by Empiree: 4:44pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
[quote author=BetaThings post=64781849][/quote] you dey look for trouble with our Shia brother |
Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by AlBaqir(m): 4:50pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
[quote author=BetaThings post=64781849][/quote] You have already ask this question on this thread: www.nairaland.com/4210474/prostration-sajda-earth-dust-clay And appropriate reply has been given perhaps you did not check the reply. And that either shows you don't even follow your own comment or you only want to comment. Kindly check the thread. |
Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by AlBaqir(m): 4:52pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
Empiree: He only wish to repeat himself. Check his comment here - same question, and our reply. www.nairaland.com/4210474/prostration-sajda-earth-dust-clay |
Re: Worship Vs Greetings (can We Bow Or Prostrate For Others Than Allah?) by AlBaqir(m): 4:59pm On Feb 04, 2018 |
BetaThings: Here's your comment and our reply on the other thread (Dec.15, 2017) Why repeating yourself? Perhaps you forget too often BetaThings: # In sahih Bukhari, we read: * Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet said, "I have been ordered to prostrate on seven bones i.e. on the forehead along with the tip of the nose and the Prophet pointed towards his nose, both hands, both knees and the toes of both feet and not to gather the clothes or the hair." Ref: Sahih Bukhari Vol 1, Book 12, No 776 This is also agreed upon in Shi'i book of Hadith and Fiqh {[see: Taudhihul Masael of Ayatullah al-Khoei, section of Sajdatayn (two prostrations)]} # However, what is the meaning of this Hadith in respect to the forehead touching the earth? Naturally the two knees are usually covered by clothes. And for someone that wears pair of socks, his two toes are equally covered. And let's say on a cold winter day, one wears pair of gloves covering his hands (palms). This technically make "6 bones" covered against the earth. # Obviously, the Prophet wear clothes and at least two of his seven bones are covered (i.e knees), and for sure he had a mat on which he prayed meaning that his two toes might not directly touch the earth. What is left and more conspicuous is the FOREHEAD. * Interestingly, all the OP's ahadith submissions only emphasised on "forehead touching the earth, clay, soil". So the idea of other "6 bones specifically touching the earth" does not arise. # Am afraid, what you have copied and pasted from that polemic website is of no use. www.nairaland.com/4210474/prostration-sajda-earth-dust-clay |
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