Naijaboy007:
all religious book are not truly words of god they are words of men

truthman2012:
As muslims couldn't respond to many questions these days, before long islam will gradually die off on nairaland.

JIBO4REAL:
try to understand what Quran is saying before criticized ,go back and read it again and digest it in Avery cool time like mid night so that u will really understand God is not a lair like u and others when God say something no error in God word this not merely sayn by someone this is a revelation from God.word of God is full of parable and is mere for understanding person who can understand is beyond English translation alone, Muslim are already believed in Jesus before u talk it is left to accepted and understanding that Muhammad is a prophet of God..please let look unto this Quran this is beyond someone capacity as a fabricated

annunaki2:


The sooner you get it into your head that the quoran is not from God but it's just a collection of sayings concocted by mohamed and attributed to God to deceive his followers into believing he is a prophet of God. A close and objective study of the quoran will tell you it's full of errors, contradictions, inconsistencies and outright lies with zero beneficial value to mankind. The quoran is all the evidence you need to know that both islam and mohamed are frauds.

UyiIredia:
U don call Muslims how many times na. Dem no gree come.

truthman2012: 1 - Muslims: 0

truthman2012:
So Muslims, according to your Qur’an, who was the first Muslim?[/b]

annunaki2:


The sooner you get it into your head that the quoran is not from God but it's just a collection of sayings concocted by mohamed and attributed to God to deceive his followers into believing he is a prophet of God. A close and objective study of the quoran will tell you it's full of errors, contradictions, inconsistencies and outright lies with zero beneficial value to mankind. The quoran is all the evidence you need to know that both islam and mohamed are frauds.

QueenSalewa:


Hello, I am a Muslim.

Firstly, you need to understand what is meant by the word "Muslim" as used in the Qur'an..
In the Qur'an "Muslim" is often used as a title for "submitter", rather than what it has come to mean today e.g. "follower of the organised religion of Islam".

I'm not sure which Muslim has claimed that Ishmael was the first Muslim. The Qur'an alludes to Abraham as the first Muslim and calls upon mankind to follow the path of Abraham.

Quran 3:95
"Say:God has spoken the truth: follow, then, the creed of Abraham, who turned away from all that is false, and was not of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God."


and

Qur'an 3:67

"Abraham in truth was not a Jew, neither yet a Christian; but he was a muslim and one pure of faith"

Hope that helped.

truthmans2012:


The Qur'an also claims Moses who led the Jews was a Muslim. Moses as a Jew, was he a muslim because he submitted to God? Are Jews muslims ?

The Quran also claims Jesus was a Muslim. Jesus was a Jew, are Jews muslims because he submitted to God?

The quran also claims Jesus Disciples were muslims. The disciples were called Christians and they built Churches in their lifetime. Were they muslims because they submitted to God? Do muslims build Churches?

QueenSalewa:


A muslim is anyone who submits to the One God, and believed in the monotheistic religion of their time. So at those times, those people were Muslims as they responded to the messenger of their time.

So yes, all those people you mentioned were muslims (the title, not the religion!)

QueenSalewa:


A muslim is anyone who submits to the One God, and believed in the monotheistic religion of their time. So at those times, those people were Muslims as they responded to the messenger of their time.

So yes, all those people you mentioned were muslims (the title, not the religion!)

truthmans2012:


Let me remind you that the question is not "who is a Muslim but who is the first Muslim.

Qur'an say Abraham was the first Muslim.

The same Qur'an says Moses was the first muslim.

The quran again says Muhammad is the first Muslim.

Now, who is the first muslim ?

I hope you will not abandon your argument.

QueenSalewa:


Hello, I am a Muslim.

Firstly, you need to understand what is meant by the word "Muslim" as used in the Qur'an..
In the Qur'an "Muslim" is often used as a title for "submitter", rather than what it has come to mean today e.g. "follower of the organised religion of Islam".

I'm not sure which Muslim has claimed that Ishmael was the first Muslim. The Qur'an alludes to Abraham as the first Muslim and calls upon mankind to follow the path of Abraham.

Quran 3:95
"Say:God has spoken the truth: follow, then, the creed of Abraham, who turned away from all that is false, and was not of those who ascribe divinity to aught beside God."


and

Qur'an 3:67

"Abraham in truth was not a Jew, neither yet a Christian; but he was a muslim and one pure of faith"

Hope that helped.

true2god:
I like your name but you are ALMOST ignorant about islam and its promotion of extreme misogyny, especially in a conservative muslim nation like iran and saudi arabia. Woman in islam are treated as third class human beings.

Quran endorses the beating of women (quran 4:34).

allahh approve temporary marriage in islam, what is known as nikah mutua (quran 5:87, sahih bhukari 7:62:13). If you dont understand the relationship between the quranic verse i have you and the hadith i provided, read through the tafsir of ibn kathir for a clue. Nikah mutua is advanced prostitution ordained by allahh and was never abrogated.

allahh approved of raping captive women by muslim soldiers, mohammed inclusive (quran 4:24, sunan abu dawud 2150 ahmed hassan translation vol 2, page 577 and sahih muslim 3432). These women were raped by mohammed and his sahabas, even in the presence of their husbands. Deuteronomy 22:25 completely condemn this evil by mohammed.

Mohammed also approve child marriage in quran 65:4. Mohammed, led by example, by engaging aisha when she was 6 (mohammed was 51) and starting having sex with her when she became 9.

These are few example which prooved that mohammed and islam hate women and it is very shocking that a woman, worst victims of islam, will even have the gut to defense this criminal prophet that called himself mohammed.

Read up the islamic references I gave and come and testify the evils of mohammed (hiss be upon him).

QueenSalewa:


LOL. Okay. I've heard all those before. Moreover I am aware those things exist. I'm not a Muslim apologist that will sit in denial of them.
P.S. I believe Saudi Arabia is trash.

So what now?

true2god:
[s]I like your name but you are ALMOST ignorant about islam and its promotion of extreme misogyny, especially in a conservative muslim nation like iran and saudi arabia. Woman in islam are treated as third class human beings.

Quran endorses the beating of women (quran 4:34).

allahh approve temporary marriage in islam, what is known as nikah mutua (quran 5:87, sahih bhukari 7:62:13). If you dont understand the relationship between the quranic verse i have you and the hadith i provided, read through the tafsir of ibn kathir for a clue. Nikah mutua is advanced prostitution ordained by allahh and was never abrogated.

allahh approved of raping captive women by muslim soldiers, mohammed inclusive (quran 4:24, sunan abu dawud 2150 ahmed hassan translation vol 2, page 577 and sahih muslim 3432). These women were raped by mohammed and his sahabas, even in the presence of their husbands. Deuteronomy 22:25 completely condemn this evil by mohammed.

Mohammed also approve child marriage in quran 65:4. Mohammed, led by example, by engaging aisha when she was 6 (mohammed was 51) and starting having sex with her when she became 9.

These are few example which prooved that mohammed and islam hate women and it is very shocking that a woman, worst victims of islam, will even have the gut to defense this criminal prophet that called himself mohammed.

Read up the islamic references I gave and come and testify the evils of mohammed (hiss be upon him).[/s]

QueenSalewa:


LOL. Okay. I've heard all those before. Moreover I am aware those things exist. I'm not a Muslim apologist that will sit in denial of them.
P.S. I believe Saudi Arabia is trash.

So what now?

QueenSalewa:


Ah. Yes. Reminder that the areas in the Qur'an which say that these people were the first Muslim are narratives of events that have happened. So, in context, when Mohammed said "I am the first of the muslims" the earlier verse begins with "Say (to the people he was addressing, The Qurayish, who were idolaters)"

"first muslim" is relative.

Abraham was the first submitter among his people.
Moses was the first submitter among his people.
Mohammed was the first submitter among his people.


Technically, the first muslim ever was the first human, Adam.

Demmzy15:

Your problem is that you flex too much muscle, the lady didn't abuse anyone, she answered all with respect but because you're pained, you wrote up this garbage. A times I think you're a robot because a human being ought to possess sense especially when you claim you're educated, but no, you have nothing upstairs. Better go and join your other brothers in carrying that thing, at least you'll be useful!