Curiousity made ME!!!

What made me irreligious was an unbiased read through of the bible while comparing it to today's reality (eg: God purportedly interferes wildly from about 4,000BC-100AD but suddenly stops that in favour of 'mysterious ways' in the present day). Needless to say, it fell short. Just like all other spiritual religions.

What made me an agnostic atheist was the unlikelihood of a complex and conscious being to exist before space, time, and energy. Conscious design will require the ability to receive stimulus, how can you do so when you aren't affected by the laws that govern the universe? It's like trying to hold a hologram. It almost certainly can't be possible. Furthermore omnipotence, omniscience, and omnibenevolence can't be traits of this 'god' when we relate it to the random catastrophes that exist on earth. Why should I worship a fallible entity that can't even properly communicate it's existence in the off-chance that a 'deity' exists?

People become atheists because they are olodos.

I am an atheist because there is no evidence that a god exists

UyiIredia:
People become atheists because they are olodos.

Ok

UyiIredia:
People become atheists because they are olodos.

What a brilliant post

BustScam:



Curiosity made you into an Atheist!

That's interesting


So what other things did you discover apart from atheism?

I discovered myself too. Life has been beautiful out here.

BustScam:



What a lame reason not to believe in God

Lol. Do you believe the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the almighty, alpha and omega?

Because how refuse to show himself to me, he couldn't answer my simple question

Ranchhoddas:
Love me or else I roast you.Has a man ever approached you using that line before? That is what the christian God uses.It is indeed beyond me.

That conception of "love me or roast me" is wrong.

"believe it and be saved" is more like it.

ifenes:
There is no reason to believe in a god

There is, Eternity. Do you believe in eternity?

MizyB:

There is, Eternity. Do you believe in eternity?

Define Eternity

ifenes:


Define Eternity

Time without end

MizyB:

That conception of "love me or roast me" is wrong.

"believe it and be saved" is more like it.

What if a person decides not to believe? What happens then?

Ranchhoddas:
What if a person decides not to believe? What happens then?

Simple, He doesn't get saved.

MizyB:
Simple, He doesn't get saved.

What does ''doesn't get saved'' entail?

MizyB:

There is, Eternity. Do you believe in eternity?

Of course I believe in eternity. Time is the beginning and end of existence. As far as matter exists and it changes its position or form even to sub electron levels, then time would continue infinitely.

MizyB:

Time without end

Okay, that is what the human soul is, Eternal. The soul is pure Energy that cannot be destroyed or created. What is your point?

ifenes:


Okay, that is what the human soul is, Eternal. The soul is pure Energy that cannot be destroyed or created. What is your point?

If by that you mean soul is immortal, then I do not agree.

God is the only one who is immortal.

And that's just my point, you need to believe in the immortal so he'll give you immortality at the end of this age.

Ranchhoddas:
What does ''doesn't get saved'' entail?

There will be an end to the current reign of the Government of this world which will be preceded by the coming of Jesus Christ to crown those who believe on him as their savior, with immortality. He who doesn't believe on him, doesn't get the gift of immortality. Hence, he won't saved from the judgment that will succeed his coming.

MizyB:


There will be an end to the current reign of the Government of this world which will be preceded by the coming of Jesus Christ to crown those who believe on him as their savior, with immortality. He who doesn't believe on him, doesn't get the gift of immortality. Hence, he won't saved from the judgment that will succeed his coming.

Government? You a JW?

MizyB:

If by that you mean soul is immortal, then I do not agree.

God is the only one who is immortal.

And that's just my point, you need to believe in the immortal so he'll give you immortality at the end of this age.

Look down the history of the bible god. He is no god,just a leader of a race of beings from other star system. If you want to be honest,Yahweh does not possess the attributes given to it. Like Omnipotent,Omniscience etc. Yahweh is a flesh and blood creature who manipulated the ancient cave men. How come Yahweh is no where to be found today

Back to the main discussion,the soul has no beginning or an end. The Soul is not only in humans,but animals,plants and everything we can think of. It is basically impossible to create or destroy it. That is what people mix up with Yahweh the bible god. If you understand that your body is powered by your soul,you will realize that the person you pray and worship is actually yourself and not Yahweh. Your problems therefore can only be solved by yourself.

ifenes:


Look down the history of the bible god. He is no god,just a leader of a race of beings from other star system. If you want to be honest,Yahweh does not possess the attributes given to it. Like Omnipotent,Omniscience etc. Yahweh is a flesh and blood creature who manipulated the ancient cave men. How come Yahweh is no where to be found today

Back to the main discussion,the soul has no beginning or an end. The Soul is not only in humans,but animals,plants and everything we can think of. It is basically impossible to create or destroy it. That is what people mix up with Yahweh the bible god. If you understand that your body is powered by your soul,you will realize that the person you pray and worship is actually yourself and not Yahweh. Your problems therefore can only be solved by yourself.

Ife, is it my "Soul" that created the heavens and the earth?

Ranchhoddas:
Government? You a JW?

No sir. I belong to none of those denominations.

Lets continue

MizyB:

Ife, is it my "Soul" that created the heavens and the earth?

Your Soul is in a dream state at the moment. Heaven and Earth are illusions.They are not real.

ifenes:


Your Soul is in a dream state at the moment. Heaven and Earth are illusions.They are not real.

So where does my "soul"exist in?

MizyB:

So where does my "soul"exist in?

The Soul exist in unlimited places. It is everywhere at the same time. It thus experiences an illusion of Time to experience one after the other. Otherwise everything is happening in the Now. The less evolve the brain,the slower the Time.

MizyB:

No sir. I belong to none of those denominations.

Lets continue

Okay.By all means.So what exactly happens to those that 'do not get saved'.

ifenes:


The Soul exist in unlimited places. It is everywhere at the same time. It thus experiences an illusion of Time to experience one after the other. Otherwise everything is happening in the Now. The less evolve the brain,the slower the Time.

Ok Ife. If we go by this, "The Soul is not only in humans,but animals,plants and everything we can think of", do plants experience this [b]illusion of time[/b]as well?