| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Scholar8200(m): 4:24pm On May 14, 2016 |
urahara:
So u ve read it that's good. You say the judaism is a radical departure from xtianity. Thats true, but annunaki do u also know the god of the old testament , is the god of the new testament as well . he is no better than allah.
Now pay close attention to the highlighted words. The OT could only commence when God had made a covenant/testament with the Israelites and the terms thereof was known: And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient. 8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.[/b]
Exodus 24:7,8
A picture of what happened here is given in Deuteronomy 27: 14,15:
14 And the Levites shall speak, and say unto all the men of Israel with a loud voice,
15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.
HAving thus subscibed willingly, it is therefore expected that God will warn that if this covenant be broken, there will be dire consequences!
Now you may ask, what of those nations that God sent them to destroy? See below:
Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: [b]but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.Deuteronomy 9:5 Now the reasons are given hence God, the Judge of the Whole Earth, saw it fit to drive those nations out. Reason? Their cup was full. But they had no laws from God? Read through Genesis and see that even before the law, God revealed Himself to people generally. Some reverenced Him, others despised. For example, Job, Enoch etc were neither an Israelite nor a person under the law but his reverence to God was outstanding! They were faithful to the light they had. In the NT, we find God sending an Angel to Cornelius to lead him to the Gospel. etc Having said that, did God spare Israel when they did similar things? NO! In the same fashion, other nations eg Babylon, Assyria etc were sent to destroy them (the Israelites). Read through Judges to get a picture. 2 Chronicles 36:16-19 but they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy. 17 Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand.
18 And all the vessels of the house of God, great and small, and the treasures of the house of the Lord, and the treasures of the king, and of his princes; all these he brought to Babylon.
19 And they burnt the house of God, and brake down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof
If u beliv in d doctrine of the trinity , the founder of xtianity commited barbaric acts in the old testament. Since the doctrine says jesus is god . therefore the founder of your religion is just as barbaric as muhammad .
Rather, it was a case of a Covenant, Justice and Retribution as already explained.
If the christain god , yahweh has perfect morality and kindness, then all his acts must be moral and kind. Would u say his barbaric acts are perfect and kind
If you call them barbaric, against what standard do you make that judgement?
Jonathan was willing to go the extra mile for his friend david . being of great help to david and saving david s life.
You would agree that this is a good action .
Why then dont christians say this act was confined to judaism alone . this is because you know deep down that this action is good.
But the Jews were the offsprings of the people who made that covenant with God? And yes, there were people from other nations who joined themselves to God too.
When u are faced with verses of yahweh s barbaric acts you use the cop out of saying that it was in judaism.
So i ask u.......
Is the god of the old testament. Not the god of the new testament.
Sure HE is. Besides, you appear to downplay that it is this same God that delivered Israel from Egypt, sent Jonah to warn Nineveh and gladly forgave when Nineveh repented, that brought Nebuchadnezzar back to his senses and blessed him exceedingly even though he was a Babylonian king, that appeared to Abimelech to prevent him from sinning against Him, that commanded Israel to show love to the Egyptians after they were delivered(Deut 23:7) etc 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by absky5(m): 6:32pm On May 14, 2016 |
analice107:
It beats me how Atheists, Satanists, Muslims, Lesbians and Gays are always on one side attacking Christians and Jews. Could it be because the same spirit moves them?
Allah is Satan, and Muhammed was his agent of destruction. what's this one saying  ?? ? 3 Likes |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by mustymatic(m): 7:02pm On May 14, 2016 |
absky5:
what's this one saying ?? ? We usually ignore her around here...there's more of her shit. |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Nobody: 7:37pm On May 14, 2016 |
Scholar8200:
Now pay close attention to the highlighted words. The OT could only commence when God had made a covenant/testament with the Israelites and the terms thereof was known:
And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient. 8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.[/b]
Exodus 24:7,8
A picture of what happened here is given in Deuteronomy 27: 14,15:
14 And the Levites shall speak, and say unto all the men of Israel with a loud voice,
15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.
HAving thus subscibed willingly, it is therefore expected that God will warn that if this covenant be broken, there will be dire consequences!
Now you may ask, what of those nations that God sent them to destroy? See below:
Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: [b]but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Deuteronomy 9:5
Now the reasons are given hence God, the Judge of the Whole Earth, saw it fit to drive those nations out. Reason? Their cup was full.
But they had no laws from God? Read through Genesis and see that even before the law, God revealed Himself to people generally. Some reverenced Him, others despised. For example, Job, Enoch etc were neither an Israelite nor a person under the law but his reverence to God was outstanding! They were faithful to the light they had. In the NT, we find God sending an Angel to Cornelius to lead him to the Gospel. etc
Having said that, did God spare Israel when they did similar things? NO! In the same fashion, other nations eg Babylon, Assyria etc were sent to destroy them (the Israelites). Read through Judges to get a picture.
2 Chronicles 36:16-19
but they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy.
17 Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand.
18 And all the vessels of the house of God, great and small, and the treasures of the house of the Lord, and the treasures of the king, and of his princes; all these he brought to Babylon.
19 And they burnt the house of God, and brake down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof
Rather, it was a case of a Covenant, Justice and Retribution as already explained.
If you call them barbaric, against what standard do you make that judgement?
But the Jews were the offsprings of the people who made that covenant with God? And yes, there were people from other nations who joined themselves to God too.
Sure HE is. Besides, you appear to downplay that it is this same God that delivered Israel from Egypt,
sent Jonah to warn Nineveh and gladly forgave when Nineveh repented,
that brought Nebuchadnezzar back to his senses and blessed him exceedingly even though he was a Babylonian king,
that appeared to Abimelech to prevent him from sinning against Him,
that commanded Israel to show love to the Egyptians after they were delivered(Deut 23:7)
etc
STORY STORY STORY....................ALL CONJECTURE. YOUR OWN PERSONAL THINKING. NOT A UNIVERSALITY IN CHRISTIANITY. IF YOU SAY THE OLD TESTAMENT COULD ONLY COMMENCE WHEN GOD MADE A CONVENANT WITH THE ISRAELITES. But the book starts with Genesis which mentioned not the ISRAELITE but containing a key foundation of Christianity which is the ORIGINAL SIN. Without the original sin there is no need of Jesus dying on the cross. NOT AT ALL. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY WE SHOULD RIP OFF GENESIS AND EVERY OTHER PART WHICH RECORDED EVENTS EVEN BEFORE THE ISRAELITES WERE BEING MENTIONED IN THE OLD TESTAMENT? No one on planet earth can ever disprove the fact that Christianity is a CONTRADICTORY SYSTEM . it is a running around the circle in the most ILLOGICAL manner full of conjectures and confussions. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THE WHOLE OF THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Scholar8200(m): 9:39pm On May 14, 2016 |
WORDWORLD:
STORY STORY STORY....................ALL CONJECTURE. YOUR OWN PERSONAL THINKING. NOT A UNIVERSALITY IN CHRISTIANITY.
personal thinking while the records are there for all to see?
IF YOU SAY THE OLD TESTAMENT COULD ONLY COMMENCE WHEN GOD MADE A CONVENANT WITH THE ISRAELITES.
But the book starts with Genesis which mentioned not the ISRAELITE but containing a key foundation of Christianity which is the ORIGINAL SIN.
This is why you need to humble yourself and not act authoritative! That the book starts with Genesis does not mean the Old Covenant started in the beginning! What we have in Genesis is God's promise to Abraham which is the basis of both Old and New Testaments! People call the Pentateuch the Law because Moses authored it but Genesis and early parts of Exodus were more of an Inspired study in History.
Without the original sin there is no need of Jesus dying on the cross. NOT AT ALL.
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No one on planet earth can ever disprove the fact that Christianity is a CONTRADICTORY SYSTEM . it is a running around the circle in the most ILLOGICAL manner full of conjectures and confussions. ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY THE WHOLE OF THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WORD OF GOD?
wish you started your reply with this paragraph. Well, hold tight to your opinion; its your right after all. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by absky5(m): 9:44pm On May 14, 2016 |
mustymatic:
We usually ignore her around here...there's more of her shit. oops!! My bad....... I don't know that she is a plague.... .... Thanks for d info 1 Like |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Nobody: 11:09pm On May 14, 2016 |
@ Scholar8200
You WISH i started with the last paragraph DID NOT ANSWER the question being asked in that last paragraph. PLEASE!!!
YOU'VE BEEN GOING ROUND AND ROUND LIKE MARY GO ROUND THOUGH THAT IS WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU ANYWAY.
ITS CHRISTIANITY.
The question again is, IS THE WHOLE of the Bible God's Word. Because it anwsers JUST every of DILEMMA raised by the OP.
A muslim will tell you straight up. THE WHOLE OF THE QURAN IS ALLAH'S WORDS AND THERE IS NO ARGUEMENT ABOUT THAT AMONG ALL THE UUNFORTUNATE SECTS TODAY.
As for the question IS THE WHOLE OF THE BIBLE GOD'S WORDS being asked in the last paragraph shouldnt determine what the correct answer should be.
SHOULD IT?
YOU HAVE ALL THE LIBERTY OF MAKING IT THE FIRST TO BE ANSWERED BY YOU IF IT REALLY MATTERED. YET YOU LEFT A RESPONSE VAGUE, AN INCOMPLETE THOUGHT .........................UNANSWERED EXCEPT BLOWING ME A "I WISH".
Neither should it be about OPINION but what is TRUE. 2 Likes |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Scholar8200(m): 6:55am On May 15, 2016 |
WORDWORLD:
@ Scholar8200
You WISH i started with the last paragraph DID NOT ANSWER the question being asked in that last paragraph. PLEASE!!!
YOU'VE BEEN GOING ROUND AND ROUND LIKE MARY GO ROUND THOUGH THAT IS WHAT IS EXPECTED OF YOU ANYWAY.
ITS CHRISTIANITY.
The question again is, IS THE WHOLE of the Bible God's Word. Because it anwsers JUST every of DILEMMA raised by the OP.
A muslim will tell you straight up. THE WHOLE OF THE QURAN IS ALLAH'S WORDS AND THERE IS NO ARGUEMENT ABOUT THAT AMONG ALL THE UUNFORTUNATE SECTS TODAY.
As for the question IS THE WHOLE OF THE BIBLE GOD'S WORDS being asked in the last paragraph shouldnt determine what the correct answer should be.
SHOULD IT?
YOU HAVE ALL THE LIBERTY OF MAKING IT THE FIRST TO BE ANSWERED BY YOU IF IT REALLY MATTERED. YET YOU LEFT A RESPONSE VAGUE, AN INCOMPLETE THOUGHT .........................UNANSWERED EXCEPT BLOWING ME A "I WISH".
Neither should it be about OPINION but what is TRUE. ok 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by malvisguy212: 7:38am On May 15, 2016 |
Scholar8200:
Now pay close attention to the highlighted words. The OT could only commence when God had made a covenant/testament with the Israelites and the terms thereof was known:
And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient. 8 And Moses took the blood, and sprinkled it on the people, and said, Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord hath made with you concerning all these words.[/b]
Exodus 24:7,8
A picture of what happened here is given in Deuteronomy 27: 14,15:
14 And the Levites shall speak, and say unto all the men of Israel with a loud voice,
15 Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the Lord, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.
HAving thus subscibed willingly, it is therefore expected that God will warn that if this covenant be broken, there will be dire consequences!
Now you may ask, what of those nations that God sent them to destroy? See below:
Not for thy righteousness, or for the uprightness of thine heart, dost thou go to possess their land: [b]but for the wickedness of these nations the Lord thy God doth drive them out from before thee, and that he may perform the word which the Lord sware unto thy fathers, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
Deuteronomy 9:5
Now the reasons are given hence God, the Judge of the Whole Earth, saw it fit to drive those nations out. Reason? Their cup was full.
But they had no laws from God? Read through Genesis and see that even before the law, God revealed Himself to people generally. Some reverenced Him, others despised. For example, Job, Enoch etc were neither an Israelite nor a person under the law but his reverence to God was outstanding! They were faithful to the light they had. In the NT, we find God sending an Angel to Cornelius to lead him to the Gospel. etc
Having said that, did God spare Israel when they did similar things? NO! In the same fashion, other nations eg Babylon, Assyria etc were sent to destroy them (the Israelites). Read through Judges to get a picture.
2 Chronicles 36:16-19
but they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the Lord arose against his people, till there was no remedy.
17 Therefore he brought upon them the king of the Chaldees, who slew their young men with the sword in the house of their sanctuary, and had no compassion upon young man or maiden, old man, or him that stooped for age: he gave them all into his hand.
18 And all the vessels of the house of God, great and small, and the treasures of the house of the Lord, and the treasures of the king, and of his princes; all these he brought to Babylon.
19 And they burnt the house of God, and brake down the wall of Jerusalem, and burnt all the palaces thereof with fire, and destroyed all the goodly vessels thereof
Rather, it was a case of a Covenant, Justice and Retribution as already explained.
If you call them barbaric, against what standard do you make that judgement?
But the Jews were the offsprings of the people who made that covenant with God? And yes, there were people from other nations who joined themselves to God too.
Sure HE is. Besides, you appear to downplay that it is this same God that delivered Israel from Egypt,
sent Jonah to warn Nineveh and gladly forgave when Nineveh repented,
that brought Nebuchadnezzar back to his senses and blessed him exceedingly even though he was a Babylonian king,
that appeared to Abimelech to prevent him from sinning against Him,
that commanded Israel to show love to the Egyptians after they were delivered(Deut 23:7)
etc
nice one bro, thread close. I think wordworld is the same person as deathstroke 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by udatso: 12:03pm On May 15, 2016 |
Hahahahahahha. Can't stop laughing at these guys. It's difficult to defend falsehood. 1 Like |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Empiree: 12:34pm On May 15, 2016 |
malvisguy212:
nice one bro, [size=20pt]thread close.[/size] I think wordworld is the same person as deathstroke hummm close You must be so uncomfortable  You'd better face reality and dump FRAUD |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Empiree: 7:52pm On May 15, 2016 |
Dudes, take your rumble come here. Defend your statement. miketayo:
Jesus is God bro.. the last time i checked he rose from d dead damyzino:
jesus ain't God bro :-/ .....last time i check ,jesus himself died Another set of confusionists 1 Like 1 Share |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by miketayo(m): 9:01pm On May 15, 2016 |
Empiree:
Dudes, take your rumble come here. Defend your statement.
Another set of confusionists lolzz which of us? |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Empiree: 9:31pm On May 15, 2016 |
miketayo:
lolzz which of us? really don't know. You tell me. I supposed you both are christians, correct? 1 Like |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by miketayo(m): 9:09pm On May 22, 2016 |
Empiree:
really don't know. You tell me. I supposed you both are christians, correct? doubt d other guy is |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Nobody: 1:51pm On May 23, 2016 |
malvisguy212:
nice one bro, thread close. I think wordworld is the same person as deathstroke KEEP ON THINKING AND GUESSING. THATS WHAT MAKES CHRISTIANITY WHAT IT IS. 1 Like |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Empiree: 5:10pm On May 23, 2016 |
miketayo:
doubt d other guy is cus he said Jesus is not God?. Is that new to you? |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by miketayo(m): 8:14pm On May 23, 2016 |
Empiree:
cus he said Jesus is not God?. Is that new to you? very new |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Empiree: 8:41pm On May 23, 2016 |
miketayo:
very new Then, you are welcome to the world of christian confusionists. This is what we are trying to establish here, that in christianity you have different doctrines. What is your proof that Jesus is God? |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by miketayo(m): 9:03am On May 24, 2016 |
Empiree:
Then, you are welcome to the world of christian confusionists. This is what we are trying to establish here, that in christianity you have different doctrines.
What is your proof that Jesus is God? John 10:30 |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Empiree: 11:05am On May 24, 2016 |
miketayo:
John 10:30 Who wrote the book of john ? |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by ganaziah(f): 1:16pm On May 24, 2016 |
Annunaki:
I did not dodge any question, he asked the questions based on the false assumption that I am a trinitarian and I believe in the old testament for doctrine. So his questions were faulty ab initio  @ Annunaki, how can you be a Christian without understanding or believing the doctrine of the Trinity? From my perspective, the two things I observed about Muslims' differences with Christian are: 1. they don't believe in the Trinity and 2. they don't believe in the Sonship of Christ in respect to God. From the above, I perceive you don't believe in the first (Trinity) which is part of the Christian doctrines. My question is.....on whose side are you? 4 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Annunaki , Have You Read The Old Testament by Nobody: 5:41pm On May 25, 2016 |
ganaziah:
@ Annunaki, how can you be a Christian without understanding or believing the doctrine of the Trinity?
From my perspective, the two things I observed about Muslims' differences with Christian are:
1. they don't believe in the Trinity and
2. they don't believe in the Sonship of Christ in respect to God.
From the above, I perceive you don't believe in the first (Trinity) which is part of the Christian doctrines.
My question is.....on whose side are you?
Obviously on the side of CONFUSSION and CONJECTURE. Its too obvious. JUST TOO CONFUSE. |
