dragonking2:
Dont mind them... The igbos are the reason why it is difficult for a region to pull out of Nigeria because they were enjoying power then.. Now they are forming as if ojukwu was the first to want out.. .Mtchhhhww

Power could be very sweet. Immediately God gave them the raw and absolute military power to declare their republic, rather than quickly use it for that purpose, they solidified their one-Nigeria sloganeering. But after they lost power the story changed. It became impossible to break away. Power is very transient.

[size=18pt]Ken Saro-Wiwa never advocated or supported violence.
Niger Delta militants are not fighting for his cause.[/size].

63xtr63r:


Here is a list of some of your greedy kinsmen who looted and ruined the fortune of this country. And this is your idea of 'One Nigeria' where you persistently rob Peter to perennially pay parasitic Paul, and still continue to spill innocent blood to maintain the status quo in the polity. Can you spot Igbos on the list?

simtosul:
The question here really is the role these men
and women played in the current state of
Nigeria.
The List of Top 20 Most Corrupt Nigerian
Leaders (dead/alive) below:

1. Oluesgun Obasanjo – He stole $25
billion from 1999-2007 ($16.4 from power
sector alone)

2. Ibrahim Babangida – He stole $15 billion
from 1985-1993 ($12.4 billion from oil wind
fall in 1990)
3. Abdulsalam Abubakar – He stole $9
billion from 1998-99
4. Sani Abacha – He stole $7 billion from
1993-1998
5. Ahmed Bola Tinubu – He stole and
continues to steal from Lagos State treasury
since 1999 till date. It’s estimated that he
has stolen $6 billion so far.
6. Muhammadu Buhari – He stole $2 billion
from NNPC accounts in the ’70s and the
money was traced to Midland bank (now
HSBC), London. Under his watch as PTF
Head, N25 billion got missing according to
PTF Situation Report submitted to Abdusalam
in 1999.
7. TY Danjuma – He fraudulently got
enriched through oil blocks from the Niger
Delta worth $20 million in the 70s after the
counter coup. Those oil blocks worth billions
of dollars in today’s value.
8. Sanusi Lamido Sanusi – He stole $1.2
billion as CBN Governor from 2008-2014.
9. Bukola Saraki – Through his father,
Olukola Saraki, their bank, Societe Generale
and as a governor of Kwara State
(2003-20111) he stole $1.1 billion
10. Nasir El Rufai – Before he was made the
FCT Minister, El Rufai was broke, homeless
and was looking for loan to import taxis from
the UK. After he was made the minister, he
seized landed properties that belonged to
Nigerians and resold them with huge profit.
It’s estimated that he stole $1 billion from
2003-2007.
11. Tunde Fashola – He is the poster boy of
Tinubu. Boht of them looted Lagos dried and
left it in debt of about N1 billion. Fashola,
among other thing built his personal website
for N78 million, drilled borehole for over N100
million per each and built a kilometre road for
N1 billion. He stole $900 million from
2007-2015. He’ll soon be a minister to
continue the looting.
12. Chubike Rotimi Amaechi – From 2007
to 2015, he stole $700 million and $150
million from that money was used to sponsor
Buhari and APC.
13. Atiku Abubakar – When he as asked by
our reporter how he made his money, he
simply said “he was always at the right place
at the right time.” Atiku is an astute
businessman, but through shady deals, he
stole $500 million from 1999-2007.
14. James Ibori – He stole $150 million from
1999-2007 as governor of Delta State. He’s
serving his term for money laundering in the
UK.
15. Amina Mohammed – This woman was
the founder of Afri-Project Consortium (APC)
that was in charge of all PTF Projects during
Abacha’s regime. About $125 million was
stolen from PTF accounts from 1994-1998.
Buhari has just nominated the same woman
as a minister to continue to stealing.
16. DSP Alamieyeseigha – He stole $120
million and was arrested for money
laundering. He pleaded guilty and long
served his term.
17. Sule Lamido – He stole $110 million
between 2007-2015 and out of that amount,
$50 million was found in his sons’ bank
accounts. He was arrested and detained for
days together with his sons.
18. Rabui Kwankwaso – He stole $100
million as a governor of Kano State. EFCC has
arrested many of his aides and they are
“singing” how they siphoned the money
19. Kashium Shettima – this governor has
stolen about $80 million and still counting.
20. Rauf Aregbesola – he has milked Osun
State to the tune of $60 million.
21. Kayode Fayemi – this former governor
stole $40 million and stashed some part of
the loot in Ghana. He was reportedly bought
a bed for N50 million.
Note: The likes of President Goodluck
Jonathan and key members of his
administration including the former Minister
of Petroleum are missing.

Source: NewsDay

But Zik pioneered it all by his self enrichment with the funds of Africa Development Bank as early as in the forties. He was the first Nigerian to be indicted of corruption and by the colonial masters themselves. The rest are Orji Uzor Kalu, Chimaroke Nnamani, Andy Ubah (Dollars in presidential Jet scandal), etc.

Deadlytruth:
Power could be very sweet. Immediately God gave them the raw and absolute military power to declare their republic, rather than quickly use it for that purpose, they solidified their one-Nigeria sloganeering. But after they lost power the story changed. It became impossible to break away. Power is very transient.

Self-determination remains the inalienable right of a people. Many Igbos have chosen to have a separate existence from greedy, treasury looters cum murderous parasites.

If you're too pained that Igbos will eventually leave you at the whims and caprices of your slave masters then go find yourselves an idea you can live and die for.

Stop whining, weeping and wailing profusely on NL at the mere mention of Biaf... as if your whole essence in life is being taken away from you. It's pathetic already!

Deadlytruth:
But Zik pioneered it all by his self enrichment with the funds of Africa Development Bank as early as in the forties. He was the first Nigerian to be indicted of corruption and by the colonial masters themselves. The rest are Orji Uzor Kalu, Chimaroke Nnamani, Andy Ubah (Dollars in presidential Jet scandal), etc.

Provide such credible evidence and the amounts involved of Zik pioneering the treasury-looting by your Uneme-Nekhua elites and the monumental fraud and ruin in Edo State...

Any1 who has kick d bucket shld tell saro-wiwa that we hav a good president buhari who is hell bent on cleaning ogoniland & wiping d tears frm ya pples eyez.

Hmmmn... Really deep

Such an intelligent man.. Buh was not being entirely honest.

What about his people that sabotage govt. efforts for their own gains.. The whole system is flawed, AGREED.. What about governors, ex-militants and co. Either in jail now or living large

they are not as bad as you

temptnow:
Northerners are bad.

ibleed:
bros your talk plenty. And I wonder which Edo you are speaking for. Certainly not the Edo I rep and know. For we are and always have been in support of a one Nigeria.

Do you really know what "One Nigeria" means? There are two categories of it. There is the genuine One Nigeria proposed by an Edo man-Enahoro, and there is the fraudulent one proposed by Zik. It is the fraudulent one I am speaking against here as an Edo person.

Deadlytruth:


Hypocritic attempt to distort history. It is you who claiming that I am distorting history so you are the one to show links to support your own claim. You obviously saw it clearly that my comment on Niger Delta trading away justice for "peace" was merely in corroboration of a previous similar comment by someone else, but you did not ask that person ( original maker of the comment) for links, instead you are asking me. How hypocritical and reproachable!
The facts are all available from books on how Aguyi Ironsi dismantled federalism and replaced it with unitary system which marked the beginnings of rape of the Niger Delta's wealth. Ironsi was not from the Niger Delta himself but a lot of Niger Delta Army officers like Bassey Effiong actively or passively approved Ironsi's rash and myopic Unification Decree which grounded regional autonomy all in the name of seeking a "stronger" and more "united" country.
Well for Ojukwu's deeds against the Niger Delta; please show me a link that completely exonerates Ojukwu from the arrest and sentencing to death of Isaac Boro. Show me a link that proves beyond reasonable doubt that biafran soldiers did not invade and illegally occupy all today's six SS states committing atrocities against innocent locals in a fight between Arewa and Biafra who had been friends since 1959 in the NCNC-NPC governing coalition.
Ojukwu's own confessional statements on how he twice sent Igbo fugitives back to the North is on You-tube live. Videos don't lie.

After reading ur posts u av written now. Wat is ur point? No offence pls.

kelechi17:
ode write what u know we ibos are not forcing u to join Biafra but rather fyt for ur ryt and ur Niger delta republic while we go on our own ..in d end we inter marry relate speak same language do business togeda ...don't try to cos som Niger delta vs Biafra war we are 1

Just read your first line and last line above. So you are one with an Ode? Then who are you too? Igbos get angry at the mention of an exclusively SS Republic, and they claim the Yorubas and Hausas are the ones brainwashing the SS. That alone is a way of using blackmail to force the SS into Biafra. It is an insult on us.

statements such as this define heroes. . . . . . . . . . .death is a weak way to silent justified agitations, for the body is killed, but the spirit is not......................

wordcat:


And such peace is what the Hausas with the help of some saboteurs from the South( SE,SS,SW) want us to accept.

My lord, we all stand
before history-Ken Saro Wiwa, 1995

Abeg don't lump me with the SW. God forbid. Fear God nah.

princejayboss:



Oga its a criminal act to sell wrack histroy.... Stop it so you dont mislead the young generation..... Remember igbo have never been your problem... At least histroy have it that they fought for a new nation which your darling people never did .. So make your point but be sincere with it

Why can't you just give us that your own "correct" version of history to prove me wrong and "correctly" guide the new generation?
We never really wanted a new nation, so we can't be accused of not fighting for what we never really wanted. All we wanted was a Nigeria characterised by true federalism and resource control which we initially had but was dismantled by Igbos.

Obidikejr:
my God! How Can Someone Speak So IgnorantlY. you, born of another tribe want to tell me the history of my own people?. this thread was for KEN SARO WIWA, & now u'v turnd it tribalistic. smh leaders of tomorrow my blackass.
besides The british, specifically frederick lord lugard invented this deception called one Nigeria. get your facts straight first and stop commentin out of spite.

This exactly is the Igbo dishonesty we've been arguing about. You accuse me of turning the thread to tribal bashing? Are you claiming you did not see where your Igbo brother started the tribal bashing by the comment below on page (0) of the thread?
Please read it here and honestly judge who turned the thread tribal.

by Expensivewarrio:
2:09pm On Jun 03
"Well, when one refuses to see beyond its
nose, think of the future and not present
and apply common sense, regret is always
the result afterwards. Had these people
seen what Ojukwu saw pre 1966 they will
not be in this pitiable and pathetic
condition.
They would've apply that saying; "the devil
(Ig.bos) u know is better than the angel
(Nigeria) u don't know."

Now he was insulting Ogonis to feed the ego of igbos. Why?

Deadlytruth:
63xtr33r

What a nightmare for you! An Igbo man now claiming to be from Urhobo in Delta State just because I asked him to name the Igbo subdivision he hails from. Why did you keep on claiming Igbo initially if you knew you were a Deltan? It means you yourself acknowledge that your own real igbo tribe ruined Nigeria and is therefore not worth identifying with.
For your information Igbos are the only tribe in Nigeria known to eat human flesh. Clifford Orji, Reverend King, etc are ready examples. For every gang of armed robbers caught in Nigeria Igbos make up 80% due to their get-rich-overnight disease. Baby factory entrepreneurs, Otokoto masters, Alaba market human parts dealers, drug traffickers etc. Just out of greed and lust after inordinate wealth Cynthia Osokogu (an Anioma girl) was drugged and killed in cold blood by her supposed Igbo brothers despite realising she was Anioma, yet this moronic plague victim keeps accusing Edos of killing Aniomas.
Diabolism and fetishness has become part of the Igbo life in all ramifications that even politics is not exempted. Andy Ubah took Ngige to swear to a blood oath promising to remit certain percentages of the state's revenues to him on getting to office, and Ngige's refusal to honour it later led to friction and Ngige's impeachment. In which region other than Igbo region has that ever happened in Nigeria? Abriba and Oguta people are renowned human flesh eaters.
If Edos really drink human blood the way Igbos are known to eat human flesh, then why has no single Edo person ever been arrested and paraded on TV in connection with blood drinking the way Igbos are frequently arrested and paraded on TV for trading in human parts? While trading in human parts and hard drugs they open vehicle spare parts shops or foodstuff shops to launder their image, and in less than three months later they begin to buy posh cars, claim divine breakthrough and pay huge tithes in churches to insult the God of the Christianity they pride themselves with- not minding that there is a huge and fast growing population of indegenous Igbo Muslims in Afikpos LGAs of Ebonyi, and others in Enugu. In fact there is an Igbo Sheik in Afikpo town. Hypocrites!
Another blind hypocrisy from you canibals is the attitude of terming others as Arewanistan as an indication of disdain for Islam, and yet you have kept on working to see that your proposed Biafra will include the SS states and Niger Delta for which you therefore have been pasting online photographs in which the Niger Delta Volunteer Force leader, Asari Dokubo, is seen in association with Nnamdi Kanu and other Biafra agitation leaders, yet you comfortably forget that the Asari Dokubu whom you so wish to share Biafra identity with is Strong Muslem who is well grounded in the very Koranic verses you so despise. If you sincerely so despise Islam and Koran then why seek partnership with Dokubo, a Muslim well grounded and founded on Islamic faith, in your thrust to form your purportedly "Christian" Republic of Biafra? It is either you people are fooling Dokubo and the Niger Delta and SS generally, or that Dokubo is fooling you people, or that you Igbos are fooling yourselves. Someone just must be fooling the other or himself in this obvious contradiction. It definitely can't be a genuine partnership. Such a "fully" Christian Biafra Republic with Asari Dokubo in it as a high ranking stake holder alongside other indigenous Bayelsa moslems is doomed to implode the way the Christian-Muslim NCNC-NPC coalition imploded catastrophically just few years after it was consumated and which implosion eventually led to war. I foresee such a war again within the Biafra that includes Bayelsa because Asari is not a man who would tolerate religious marginalizion from Igbos. Meanwhile let the self deception and delusion continue on your part.
However, I know that Asari knows deep down in his mind that he is just fooling Igbos as a SS Republic is what guarantess his religious freedom based on the fact that a SS republic is full of Christians but not Christian bigots like igbos, and that the SS houses more indigenous muslems across at least four of its states, and that the states involved do not deny it the way Igbos deny having indigenous Muslim population despite having it in Ebonyi and Enugu. Or you think Asari Dokubu is a kid not to have seen it clearly that biafra Republic will be the first country in world history where Christians will persecute others for holding divergent faiths from the mainstream Christianity? Asari Dokubo is only using you people as a tool to craftily press for true federalism which the SS only wants. Asari and most Bayelsa muslems prefer to stay back in Nigeria and secure their religious freedom than go into Biafra and lose it. Religious freedom is more important than economic freedom. No sane person surrenders religious freedom for economic interest. Only Igbos did it in 1959 by entering into the NPC-NCNC alliance for cabinet portfolios, and they ended up losing both economic and religious freedom till today and therefore sad and full of hatred for every other tribe including SS tribes. Let the FG grant true federalism/resource control today and see whether Asari will ever again touch Biafra agitators with a 100m long pole. I have given you this exposition free of charge because I don't want you to deceive yourselves into another secession brotherhood war only for you to later brand Asari Dokubo a traitor by the time he backs out. Once beaten, twice shy. But I'm afraid you will be twice beaten. I have taken all this pain out of genuine concern for another 3 million lives on the line now due to your naivete and gullibility that Dokubo is sincerely behind you. It is better you face reality, concentrate on your 5 Igbo states and leave the SS alone so as not to risk another "betrayal" as no SS state will open its two eyes and join a Republic where self-acclaimed Jews and Christians will surely persecute other religions' adherents.

If Edo is not a SS state because it is, according to you, more of a Yoruba state, then it leads to four deductions as follows;
1. That the Igbankes you claim brotherhood with in Edo State are now Yorubas, therefore your brotherhood with them makes you Igbos yourselves automatically Yorubas. Whoever claims brotherhood with a people he implicitly labels as Yorubas is a Yoruba himself.
2. The Delta state you claim is part of SS (to the exclusion of Edo) is actually a state inhabited by Bini migrants (Urhobo, Isoko, Itsekiri in part, etc) who don't deny their Bini ancestry. With that fact viewed against your logic, Delta state too is a SW/Yoruba State and not a SS state. Then even you, who just claimed Urhobo in your last comment above, are a Bini man and then a Yoruba man by extension of your own very logic. Do you see how you would have failed woefully were this to have been an exam in Philosophy and Logic? And a person so dull like you recognised intelligence in Ojukwu's Aburi Accord demand which were all afterthoughts. Even a fool's afterthoughts are usually intelligent since it is a matter of forming new opinions based on lessons learnt from an earlier mistake.
3. That the fact that some tribes in Rivers state (like Ogbia) trace their origin back to Benin means Rivers too is Edo and not a SS state.
4. The fact that some tribes in Northern Cross River have languages mutually intelligible with some Edo-North tribes also means Cross River is Edo and therefore a Yoruba State based on your puerile logic.
Then which state is left in the SS that fits correctly into your logic? May be only Bayelsa and Akwa Ibom. Even Bayelsa by, virtue of its indigenous Muslems, is either SW or North according to your logic. So only Akwa Ibom is the state left in your own version of SS. What a pitiable mindset! You said Edo is not culturally or geographically SS? Please which school did you attend? Are Nigeria regions purely geographical/cardinal demarcations or rather geopolitical mappings? Are they called Geo-cultural Regions or Geopolitical Regions? If the former is the case, then what is the purely geo-cultural relationship between the Itsekiri part of Delta and the Ogoja part of Cross River both of which you agree are in the SS? What is the geographical or cultural relationship between Fulanis in Illorin idomas of Benue to qualify them both into NC if it is purely Geographical/cultural? What are the Igbos in Benue doing in the North Central if our regions are based on cultural mappings? What are the Ijaws of Ondo doing in the SW if it is by cultural mapping? There are native Itsekiris and Ijaws in Edo State, so by your foolish and preposterous logic those Itsekiris and Ijaws of Edo state are Yorubas while the Itsekiris and Ijaws of Delta State are not Yorubas but SS. You must be very high on the hard drugs your brothers traffic through MMIA. Or are you simply are confusing "geographical" with "geopolitical"? When we say stop sniffing cocaine and eating human flesh you refuse. See the result now? Please go back to school fast. The SS is a region created for Southerners who are neither Yorubas nor Igbos irrespective of their cultures or geographical space relationships. Get that into your rotten bigoted brain.

As for the rest parts of your comments I have already answered them but you dodged them:
1. Who voted OBJ back to power after his land use degree onslaught on the SS in his first stint?
2. Who sold the South to the Arewanistan through NCNC-NPC alliance?
3. Which people voted for OBJ, an Arewanistan, slave against their own intelligent Aburi Accord hero so much that the latter could not get 20% votes among his own people?
4. Who killed APGA that was founded by the Aburi Accord Hero?
5. Which people rejected secession clause when they felt they needed one-Nigeria for survival at a time every other tribe made it known that Nigeria was a British fraud and wanted to exit it?
6. Which tribe did what remotely triggered the war?
7. Which people dismantled federalism?
If you can't answer these questions then all your rantings about who killed who in the war are pure rubbish and inverted accusations. You sowed the wind and reaped the whirlwind. Simple!

Oro re oo
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Kini mo wi?

Oro re oo!
Oro oro re oo!!!

Leekan si,I Oro re oo!! Oro oro re ooo!!!!


Kikikikikiki haaàaaaa!!!!!
I can't laugh ooooo!!!

Deadlytruth:
IN CONCLUSION:

Igbos are subject of hate in this country,
apparently due to wrong perception, but I
personally think Igbos are cool like any other
tribe, and bad like any other tribe too. Though my main problem with them is that, they never admit their flaws no matter how glaring but they are always quick to lampoon the slightest folly of other tribes.

If you want to be successful economically, think like Igbos!
—–By Dennis, Rivers State.


The fact that you referenced the speech above in your attempt to mystify Igbos lays it bare that you are very unintelligent. In comprehension and summary it is said that the conclusion of a write up carries the ultimate message. This Dennis ended the story by claiming that Igbos never admit their own flaws however glaring but are quick to see the fault of others. In other words he simply means Igbos are dishonest and thus see the spec in other people's eyes through the log of wood covering their own eyes. Is that not exactly the point I have been making on this thread as to how Igbos ruined themselves and Nigeria but see the blame in everyone else? He implies clearly that Igbos are hypocrites and unreliable. And we know that hypocrisy is a the most disgusting quality in anyone. The only sin which made Jesus curse people is the sin of hypocrisy. Am I not vindicated now on my insistence that Igbos are cursed?
This Ogoni man just finished you completely and you quoted him.
Of course this Ogoni man had in mind the hypocrisy of Igbos in their mocking of Saro Wiwa for crushing Biafra after Igbos themselves crushed Saro Wiwa's Niger Delta Republic earlier on.
If he, as an Ogoni man, is really comfortable with his own verdict that Igbos hypocrisy and dishonesty driven business acumen is actually tolerable by him, then why did he not suggest in his write up that he would therefore love to find himself in a Biafra Republic made up of Igbos and Ogonis alone? When will you start reading write ups in between the lines before you quote them?

You are a hell of an arguer.

But what do you want.
1; for Igbos to agree they ruined Nigeria and hence remain in the country.

2; for igbos to renegade on Biafra and pledge allegiance to the Nigerian cause.

3; fiscal federalism

4; Igbo's to form a country with the North?



You are intelligent anyway, but I wish to grab your crux of argument.

SWG25:


Can we comfortably say that Allah is in support of the Avengers?

He used the oppressors believe against them.

Deadlytruth:


Who are Igbos' mates? Were they known before the arrival of whites? The Edo Kingdom and its peoples were already known in Europe as far back as the 13th century while Igbos were yet to even identify themselves as a tribe.

So suddenly Igbos are no longer interested in sharing a country with "ass lickers and Arewanistan" after they (Igbos) held us together with ass lickers and Arewanistan by their fraudulent "One Nigeria" sloganeering against our wish? You people's hypocrisy is mind-boggling. So you knew people were ass lickers and Arewanistan yet you sought oneness with them and even held them back when they tried to separate from Nigeria?

You knew Nigeria was a cesspit of Arewanistan and ass lickers yet you held Isaac Adaka Boro back from exiting the cesspit? What an interesting Irony!
When will you guys just be honest enough to accept that you were the cause of all what you now regret? You keep hailing Zik as a nationalist yet you term as a cesspit the very "one" Nigeria he built with his so-called nationalism. What an interesting irony! That's tantamount to speaking from both sides of the mouth.

Until you answer me clearly and prove me wrong that Igbos were responsible for preventing the de-amalgamation of Nigeria your diatribes will always appear escapist and evasive in my eyes. Why can't you for once be honest and acknowledge that your Zik and Ironsi caused your seemingly irreversible bondage with those you call ass lickers and Arewanistan?

Well, the Enahoro who represented me saw it ahead that Nigeria was going to be a cesspit and he therefore proposed the secession clause in the constitution to make it easy for us his people, the yorubas, the Hausas and even Igbos, etc to exit the union later on if they felt cheated, but your Zik who was having wet dreams about one Nigeria resisted him and termed him a tribalist for that. So whose fault is it that you are now not able to exit the cesspit today?

Any educated and enlightened person knows that the only feature that distinguishes confederal constitutions from federal and unitary ones is the provision of a level of looseness which guarantees the right to secession. The constitution of Nigeria would therefore have been confederal if Enahoro's suggestion of the secession clause was accepted by Zik and his fellow Igbos. But Zik argued that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable and that secession clause was inimical to national unity and "One-Nigeria". Now, is there national unity today even with the non-inclusion of the secession clause? That means Zik was wrong, misguided and was fooling you people all along, yet you keep hailing him as a nationalist.

Even the truly federal constitution bequeathed onto us at independence was working fine. It was still one Mr. I- know-it-all from Igbo land that first tampered with it at a time the public did not demand constitution review. What was his motive if not fraud? It was his action that morally emboldened all others that came after him to fully bastardize the constitution from its wholly federal character to the unitary form which Braithwaite complained of. So whose fault again other than Igbos'?

My Uneme-Nekhua people can't be seeking ways to salvage Nigeria as you charged us to. We won't do so because Nigeria has always been beyond salvage and we knew and acknowledged that right from Adam. Only Igbos refused to accept that reality and gospel truth initially.
Our blood has never been shed by Northerners at anytime as we, unlike Igbos, rarely go up North to seek greener pastures but go to Lagos or overseas for which we might be called prostitutes but however not killed in the process the way Igbos get killed in the North and have still remained there seeking one Nigeria. It is rather you Igbos that have had their blood repeatedly shed by Northerners to keep Nigeria one as directed by Zik. In furtherance of that Igbos kept forming alliances with the North each time after Northerners shed their blood all in a bid to "salvage" one Nigeria. Is that the way you want us Unemes and indeed all Edos too to contribute to the "salvaging" of one Nigeria? Igbos' laughable ways of reasoning! Ha ha ha ha....... Please cut that crap of a suggestion cos we are not that silly.
Our blood is too precious to sacrifice trying to correct the blunders Igbos made against all wise counsels and are still paying dearly for.
Your claim that Igbos are not ready to form a country with Arewanistan, ass lickers, treasury looters, blah, blah, blah...is pure rubbish as Igbos and Hausas are one and the same in Nigeria's politics. The BIA syllable of WAZOBIA is an Igbo word which, on the surface, means "come" but actually is the short form of BIAFRA in deeper meaning. So Biafra is part and parcel of WaZoBia. In fact Bia is directly tied to Zo in Wa-zobia spelling meaning that the Hausa and Igbos are closer together than everyone else. Just check it out Wa (ZoBia) meaning Yoruba (HausaIgbo). There is no Edo word in the Wazobia appellation. It is all a Yoruba -HausaIgbo affair. Live with that reality. Hausas love you and you love them even when they are slaughtering you. It happened in 1945 and 1953 yet in 1959 you went into a political marriage with them called NPC-NCNC (Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years later, in 1979, you again went into the NPN-NPP (still Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years again, 1999, still you went into the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) Coalition once more. Do you think the twenty year interval is just being coincidental? If you think so consider the fact that a Biafran called Ekweremadu zoned the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) ticket to Arewanistan North against 2019........another 20 years from 1999. Open your eyes and see that Hausa and Igbo oneness is non-negotiable as Zik put it. It even follows a rhyming pattern.

Hmmm. Word.

I must day you're good! I'm from Delta igbo but I've always blamed Zik and Aguiyi Ironsi for putting us into this servitude. I have always also wondered what they are doing up north even with the periodic continued killings. But be that as it may....should we continue to execute the mistakes done in the past or change it? Why not support implementation of the confab so we can move forward in equity and justice!

Deadlytruth:


Who are Igbos' mates? Were they known before the arrival of whites? The Edo Kingdom and its peoples were already known in Europe as far back as the 13th century while Igbos were yet to even identify themselves as a tribe.

So suddenly Igbos are no longer interested in sharing a country with "ass lickers and Arewanistan" after they (Igbos) held us together with ass lickers and Arewanistan by their fraudulent "One Nigeria" sloganeering against our wish? You people's hypocrisy is mind-boggling. So you knew people were ass lickers and Arewanistan yet you sought oneness with them and even held them back when they tried to separate from Nigeria?

You knew Nigeria was a cesspit of Arewanistan and ass lickers yet you held Isaac Adaka Boro back from exiting the cesspit? What an interesting Irony!
When will you guys just be honest enough to accept that you were the cause of all what you now regret? You keep hailing Zik as a nationalist yet you term as a cesspit the very "one" Nigeria he built with his so-called nationalism. What an interesting irony! That's tantamount to speaking from both sides of the mouth.

Until you answer me clearly and prove me wrong that Igbos were responsible for preventing the de-amalgamation of Nigeria your diatribes will always appear escapist and evasive in my eyes. Why can't you for once be honest and acknowledge that your Zik and Ironsi caused your seemingly irreversible bondage with those you call ass lickers and Arewanistan?

Well, the Enahoro who represented me saw it ahead that Nigeria was going to be a cesspit and he therefore proposed the secession clause in the constitution to make it easy for us his people, the yorubas, the Hausas and even Igbos, etc to exit the union later on if they felt cheated, but your Zik who was having wet dreams about one Nigeria resisted him and termed him a tribalist for that. So whose fault is it that you are now not able to exit the cesspit today?

Any educated and enlightened person knows that the only feature that distinguishes confederal constitutions from federal and unitary ones is the provision of a level of looseness which guarantees the right to secession. The constitution of Nigeria would therefore have been confederal if Enahoro's suggestion of the secession clause was accepted by Zik and his fellow Igbos. But Zik argued that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable and that secession clause was inimical to national unity and "One-Nigeria". Now, is there national unity today even with the non-inclusion of the secession clause? That means Zik was wrong, misguided and was fooling you people all along, yet you keep hailing him as a nationalist.

Even the truly federal constitution bequeathed onto us at independence was working fine. It was still one Mr. I- know-it-all from Igbo land that first tampered with it at a time the public did not demand constitution review. What was his motive if not fraud? It was his action that morally emboldened all others that came after him to fully bastardize the constitution from its wholly federal character to the unitary form which Braithwaite complained of. So whose fault again other than Igbos'?

My Uneme-Nekhua people can't be seeking ways to salvage Nigeria as you charged us to. We won't do so because Nigeria has always been beyond salvage and we knew and acknowledged that right from Adam. Only Igbos refused to accept that reality and gospel truth initially.
Our blood has never been shed by Northerners at anytime as we, unlike Igbos, rarely go up North to seek greener pastures but go to Lagos or overseas for which we might be called prostitutes but however not killed in the process the way Igbos get killed in the North and have still remained there seeking one Nigeria. It is rather you Igbos that have had their blood repeatedly shed by Northerners to keep Nigeria one as directed by Zik. In furtherance of that Igbos kept forming alliances with the North each time after Northerners shed their blood all in a bid to "salvage" one Nigeria. Is that the way you want us Unemes and indeed all Edos too to contribute to the "salvaging" of one Nigeria? Igbos' laughable ways of reasoning! Ha ha ha ha....... Please cut that crap of a suggestion cos we are not that silly.
Our blood is too precious to sacrifice trying to correct the blunders Igbos made against all wise counsels and are still paying dearly for.
Your claim that Igbos are not ready to form a country with Arewanistan, ass lickers, treasury looters, blah, blah, blah...is pure rubbish as Igbos and Hausas are one and the same in Nigeria's politics. The BIA syllable of WAZOBIA is an Igbo word which, on the surface, means "come" but actually is the short form of BIAFRA in deeper meaning. So Biafra is part and parcel of WaZoBia. In fact Bia is directly tied to Zo in Wa-zobia spelling meaning that the Hausa and Igbos are closer together than everyone else. Just check it out Wa (ZoBia) meaning Yoruba (HausaIgbo). There is no Edo word in the Wazobia appellation. It is all a Yoruba -HausaIgbo affair. Live with that reality. Hausas love you and you love them even when they are slaughtering you. It happened in 1945 and 1953 yet in 1959 you went into a political marriage with them called NPC-NCNC (Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years later, in 1979, you again went into the NPN-NPP (still Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years again, 1999, still you went into the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) Coalition once more. Do you think the twenty year interval is just being coincidental? If you think so consider the fact that a Biafran called Ekweremadu zoned the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) ticket to Arewanistan North against 2019........another 20 years from 1999. Open your eyes and see that Hausa and Igbo oneness is non-negotiable as Zik put it. It even follows a rhyming pattern.

If I understand you, because zik and co wanted one Nigeria earlier when others wanted confederation and later changed their minds due to the hurt the system was melting out to them, we must be in this contraption forever? Does it make sense to you that cos of the mistakes of few men we must suffer it forever? So what's you recommendations? For you info, Benin empire had the opportunity to conquer Eko and enlarge its empire but they blew it now they are so small in d present day. Imagine an Oba in Yoruba land saying he is more than the great Oba of Benin everybody knows!

Deadlytruth:


Unemes are an Edoid group which migrated from the ancient Benin Kingdom which itself enlarged to an empire that swallowed all Igbo land and spread oppositely to as far as present Dahomey. How far could the insignificant Nri kingdom spread? Nri never became an empire like the Edo.
The allure of the quality of Benin artworks tempted Europeans into attacking the palace and robbing it of artifacts. Which Nri palace was so robbed? Igbo Okwu is the most recent set of migrants into the Nigerian geographical area. The chosen FESTAC symbol is a Benin art work and not an Nri one. Why not Nri if you really had such a highly rated kingdom?
In all Nigerian museums there is a general Museum hall for artworks of NOK, Ife, Igbo-Ukwu, Esie, Mdaise, etc, but there is always a separate Benin Gallery which is meant for exclusively unique Benin works. Why is there no Nri gallery?
There is the Benin Moat which serves as international tourist attraction. Where is Nri's moat? You can't compare Nri with Benin in any ramification.
Even the Europeans attested that they met civilization already existing in Benin Kingdom but that they brought civilization to Nri. They testified that they met Benin City streets arranged in geometrical patterns with major thoroughfares at regular intervals. Check the Google map of Benin City and you'll see that it remains the most planned City in West Africa. Its streets are straight and at angle 90 to intersecting ones. But Nri towns streets are armophous and non-descript.

NCNC was formed by a Yoruba man who, at the point of his death, handed it over to Zik not because there were not other Yorubas who co-founded the party with him before Zik joined, but because he wanted to be impartial. But Zik, at the point of his own departure, handed it over to Michael Okpara, an Igbo like him, instead of a Niger Deltan or any other Southern minority so as to sustain the impartiality Macaulay set in motion. Zik went further to fill the executive position with Igbos as your own list above reveals. Thus he subtly converted a national outlook party to an Igbo party while still chanting "One-Nigeria".
Zik read anthropology from the US and lectured in it for few years. Anthropology is a discipline which studies human cultural diversity and evolution with the aim of correctly recommending how best peoples of different cultures can coexist peacefully without clashes of culture and its attendant bloodshed. To this end Anthropology has a cardinal precept which says that "the best way for different tribes to coexist side by side and peacefully is for mechanisms (federalism) to be put in place to limit unnecessary cross interference between tribes, and that each tribe should recognize and respect the culture, beliefs and value systems of other tribes however strange they may appear" and never seek to make them abandon same. But the Zik who knew this by virtue of his profession started preaching a "one Nigeria" where all tribal differences will be progressively de-emphasized for "nationalism". What a fraud of an Anthropologist?
Before Zik travelled out to the US to school he had read it in Government textbooks that Federalism (i.e. Weak centre and strong periphery) is the only workable system for a multi-ethnic democracy. On getting to the US he read it in the content of his course of study. Then he saw with his eyes how the practice of federalism had made US a world Power and an enviable country. He heard no one chanting "One America" over there. But he returned to an equally ethnically diverse Nigeria to advocate unitary system and "One Nigeria" and argued that federalism would elevate tribalism above nationalism. What a fraud of a man?

In the 1953 constitutional conference the clause for secession was proposed by Enahoro and other AG members but Zik and his NCNC goons were aided by the British to reject it. In fact Zik declared that secession clause was inimical to national unity and that Nigeria's oneness was non-negotiable. Enahoro also proposed that 19 states/regions be created along tribal compatibility lines and with full autonomy thus creating a very weak centre. Zik and Igbos termed Enahoro a tribalist for making such a realistic demand. They argued that Nigeria needed an overwhelmingly strong centre over very weak regions. It was sheer boofonrey for a tribe to so much believe that a country of over 400 ethnicities could be peacefully governed by unitary system.
But just 14 years later the same Zik and his people started asking for the secession which they said was inimical to national unity. They went as far as drawing up a list of Aburi demands which contained the very proposals of confederacy and secession clause they earlier rejected and accused the proponents of tribalism, and were expecting Enahoro and Oba Akenzua to support them after having earlier rejected the same proposal by Enahoro and Akenzua. Hypocrites and overnight turncoats.
While Jonathan was in power, it was "GEJ till 2019, One Naija", but immediately GEJ lost, it became "On Biafra we stand". This is similar to their shouts of "One-Nigeria, unitary system is best for Nigeria" while Zik and NCNC were still together with the North in power and also Aguyi Ironsi in power too, but immediately Aguyi Ironsi was overthrown it became "On Aburi we stand, Confederacy it is, when we get too close we collide". Inconsistent clowns.

Vessi:


You are a hell of an arguer.

But what do you want.
1; for Igbos to agree they ruined Nigeria and hence remain in the country.

2; for igbos to renegade on Biafra and pledge allegiance to the Nigerian cause.

3; fiscal federalism

4; Igbo's to form a country with the North?



You are intelligent anyway, but I wish to grab your crux of argument.

Far from intelligence. He is just been paranoid with the Igbos....

Between the Igbo guy and the Edo, I have enjoyed very intelligent argument howbeit very emotional and sometimes sentimentally tribal. Deadly truth is deadly on point. But what does our generation want? Both school of thoughts, I mean Ironsi's and Enahoros' There are unarguably good intents. It is obvious the minority tribes as well the igbos don't want this present system of govt. Then they should move for succession or devolution of powers without seeming to be undecided. Cry for self determination when there is no political benefits and preach unity when there is so much to gather is not the way.

Oppression oppression oppression they kill dele giwa dem kill saro wow a na God go punish their papa oppression

Deadlytruth:


Who are Igbos' mates? Were they known before the arrival of whites? The Edo Kingdom and its peoples were already known in Europe as far back as the 13th century while Igbos were yet to even identify themselves as a tribe.

So suddenly Igbos are no longer interested in sharing a country with "ass lickers and Arewanistan" after they (Igbos) held us together with ass lickers and Arewanistan by their fraudulent "One Nigeria" sloganeering against our wish? You people's hypocrisy is mind-boggling. So you knew people were ass lickers and Arewanistan yet you sought oneness with them and even held them back when they tried to separate from Nigeria?

You knew Nigeria was a cesspit of Arewanistan and ass lickers yet you held Isaac Adaka Boro back from exiting the cesspit? What an interesting Irony!
When will you guys just be honest enough to accept that you were the cause of all what you now regret? You keep hailing Zik as a nationalist yet you term as a cesspit the very "one" Nigeria he built with his so-called nationalism. What an interesting irony! That's tantamount to speaking from both sides of the mouth.

Until you answer me clearly and prove me wrong that Igbos were responsible for preventing the de-amalgamation of Nigeria your diatribes will always appear escapist and evasive in my eyes. Why can't you for once be honest and acknowledge that your Zik and Ironsi caused your seemingly irreversible bondage with those you call ass lickers and Arewanistan?

Well, the Enahoro who represented me saw it ahead that Nigeria was going to be a cesspit and he therefore proposed the secession clause in the constitution to make it easy for us his people, the yorubas, the Hausas and even Igbos, etc to exit the union later on if they felt cheated, but your Zik who was having wet dreams about one Nigeria resisted him and termed him a tribalist for that. So whose fault is it that you are now not able to exit the cesspit today?

Any educated and enlightened person knows that the only feature that distinguishes confederal constitutions from federal and unitary ones is the provision of a level of looseness which guarantees the right to secession. The constitution of Nigeria would therefore have been confederal if Enahoro's suggestion of the secession clause was accepted by Zik and his fellow Igbos. But Zik argued that the unity of Nigeria was non-negotiable and that secession clause was inimical to national unity and "One-Nigeria". Now, is there national unity today even with the non-inclusion of the secession clause? That means Zik was wrong, misguided and was fooling you people all along, yet you keep hailing him as a nationalist.

Even the truly federal constitution bequeathed onto us at independence was working fine. It was still one Mr. I- know-it-all from Igbo land that first tampered with it at a time the public did not demand constitution review. What was his motive if not fraud? It was his action that morally emboldened all others that came after him to fully bastardize the constitution from its wholly federal character to the unitary form which Braithwaite complained of. So whose fault again other than Igbos'?

My Uneme-Nekhua people can't be seeking ways to salvage Nigeria as you charged us to. We won't do so because Nigeria has always been beyond salvage and we knew and acknowledged that right from Adam. Only Igbos refused to accept that reality and gospel truth initially.
Our blood has never been shed by Northerners at anytime as we, unlike Igbos, rarely go up North to seek greener pastures but go to Lagos or overseas for which we might be called prostitutes but however not killed in the process the way Igbos get killed in the North and have still remained there seeking one Nigeria. It is rather you Igbos that have had their blood repeatedly shed by Northerners to keep Nigeria one as directed by Zik. In furtherance of that Igbos kept forming alliances with the North each time after Northerners shed their blood all in a bid to "salvage" one Nigeria. Is that the way you want us Unemes and indeed all Edos too to contribute to the "salvaging" of one Nigeria? Igbos' laughable ways of reasoning! Ha ha ha ha....... Please cut that crap of a suggestion cos we are not that silly.
Our blood is too precious to sacrifice trying to correct the blunders Igbos made against all wise counsels and are still paying dearly for.
Your claim that Igbos are not ready to form a country with Arewanistan, ass lickers, treasury looters, blah, blah, blah...is pure rubbish as Igbos and Hausas are one and the same in Nigeria's politics. The BIA syllable of WAZOBIA is an Igbo word which, on the surface, means "come" but actually is the short form of BIAFRA in deeper meaning. So Biafra is part and parcel of WaZoBia. In fact Bia is directly tied to Zo in Wa-zobia spelling meaning that the Hausa and Igbos are closer together than everyone else. Just check it out Wa (ZoBia) meaning Yoruba (HausaIgbo). There is no Edo word in the Wazobia appellation. It is all a Yoruba -HausaIgbo affair. Live with that reality. Hausas love you and you love them even when they are slaughtering you. It happened in 1945 and 1953 yet in 1959 you went into a political marriage with them called NPC-NCNC (Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years later, in 1979, you again went into the NPN-NPP (still Arewanistan-Biafra) coalition. Twenty years again, 1999, still you went into the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) Coalition once more. Do you think the twenty year interval is just being coincidental? If you think so consider the fact that a Biafran called Ekweremadu zoned the PDP (Arewanistan-Biafra) ticket to Arewanistan North against 2019........another 20 years from 1999. Open your eyes and see that Hausa and Igbo oneness is non-negotiable as Zik put it. It even follows a rhyming pattern.

Insightful! Nice write up

temptnow:
Northerners are bad.

Are you just realizing that?.... Even the Holy Bible repeated it severally... Fear No(r)th.

the blood of the innocent will forever cry for justice. ken is gone, but we still live to continue the fight for justice.

Ewizard:
Your efforts shall not go unrewarded...

Niger Deltans have made dier choice and d fight for dier right has fully begun, deres no goin back.

In d name of peace dey settled for less dan dey deserved, and in turn got less dan wat dey settled for.

R.I.P Ken Saro Wiwa!

Nice one KSW..though never know you but i wish

Lets not be one sided on issues. Please go through this link:
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ken-saro-wiwa-was-never-a-saint-1351981.html

temptnow:
Northerners are bad.

Your ideology about Northerners are Bad also

SWG25:


Can we comfortably say that Allah is in support of the Avengers?

Those guys are destroying our Economy inflicting more harm (Poverty) to the Masses

Expensivewarrio:
Well, when one refuses to see beyond its nose, think of the future and not present and apply common sense, regret is always the result afterwards. Had these people seen what Ojukwu saw pre 1966 they will not be in this pitiable and pathetic condition.
They would've apply that saying; "the devil(Ig.bos) u know is better than the angel(Nigeria) u don't know.

my broda am an igbo. But I must say the truth we are the first pple that betrayed the south south they saw this before us and wanted to go in 1966 when they declared niger delta republic and waged a 12 day war led by isaac adaka boro but our broda ironsi suppressed them and imprisoned adaka boro so wen d civil war started and nigeria was loosing in the riverine area Gowon commissioned boro and used him to deal with us so no igbo man shud blame the south south for betraying us we started d betrayal game but now let's throw away the old tins and unite as one south south and southeast na one blood we are one