[size=15pt]Guess you do not know the type of people that exist in the various health institutions.

The broad classification of humans are GOOD PEOPLE & BAD PEOPLE
Whether you are a nurse, doctor, pharmacist, receptionist, attendant, pastor, student, imam, sheikh, bishop, e.t.c if you are bad, you are bad;



"Are you looking for demons? Do not look too far, they live in people"[/size]

freedomlast:


Your mindset is appalling.

People like you are the issue with the country.

So if you were dying and being attended to in an understaffed hospital, you would high-five the doctor if he or she left you in the middle of an emergency, just because it was closing time?

So many wicked people, always passing the blame and not willing to work on what they have control over.

These are the people who will condemn a gay man to death while their own actions send people to their early graves

AnakinSkywalker:


The same way it took B.M.H in Port Harcourt days to diagnose my mum with meningitis and finally they murdered my her with their neglect of her blood pressure which rose with the drugs she was being administered.

Where do I start from?

Is it the nurses who lied that there was no bed space and we had to bribe them? Finally when we got to the ward we realized in a room with 20 bed spaces, 16 were free.

Is it the fact that the nurses in charge of each ward just did not want patients because to them it meant more work and they would rather sit and gist?

Is it the nurses who always forgot to give give her the prescribed medication? Meanwhile we were not allowed to stay for long as it was the female ward.

Is it the people I saw die there in BMH? From my mums ward 2 people. My mum made it 3. From other wards so many. BMH With their morgue having corpses stacked outside at times? In BMH back then in 2010 (I don't know about now) vultures fly around the morgue looking for flesh? Yes it was that disgusting.

Is it the fact that you had to bribe to get your file from the file room? And if you did not bribe the nurses for each specialist, your file will be constantly moved to the bottom and those who came after you will be attended till evening. Then you had to sleep there in BMH or come back the following day?

Is it the fact that the doctors O.Ded my mum on pfizer antibiotics?



Nigeria is a terrible country.

bigsmoke2:
The truth is a lot of this problem still fall on the government I am an inside person and I can confirm that most of what you said is true . As a health worker you become amotivated when basic things you need to save patients life are not readily available the theatre was shut down a while back because there was no oxygen in the whole theatre and we just couldn't operate under such conditions many times doctors bring their personal eqipment to the hospital to sometimes carry out procedures because the hospital doesnt have them. govt are currently building a helipad in lasuth when both adult and children emergency doesn't have a working defibrillator. the helicopter is going to transport people to a hospital where there is never bed space because the hospital is serving a population beyond its capacity . I my myself almost lost one of my nephew recently because there was no bed space. Instead of expanding the hospital and employing more staff and buying more equipment they are busy building helipad . the government officials don't use the hospital so they neglect them. I really sympathize with the OP it is really a sad and unfortunate story

I work in the environment too. I am like what do they need an helipad for when they are not enough common ambulances to convey patients which is not free in the first place. Spending money on white elephant projects while some basic things are out there crying for attention. And they keep on increasing prices without changes in services or amenities.

As I was reading this, memories of what happen to me at oau teaching hospital, where I almost lost my dad due to similar treatment from nurses and all this there training doctors that they will be using once live as lab rat for testing. My bro please take heart, I can feel all the struggle you went tru cos I went tru similar thing too. Thank God we took my dad out of there earlier and that what saved him.

Sorry abt d death of ur old man.. Dats d reason I don't like government hospitals.. May Allah grant ur papa aljant fridaou.

Encountered similar issue though he didn't die but the attitude of this health workers is nothing to write home about. Lackadaisical attitude, chewing gums are the best things they can do.
In uch then, 5patients died within 2days in my presence and the attitude of these health workers contributed to their untimely death. It's so pathetic that you pray for death to take some of the patients when u see them in pains and they don't get attended to.
Try beg them to attend to them, they will tell you to face your business there. Situations like this make me regret being a Nigerian. But this is not a matter of APC or PDP, it's beyond that.
May God help us, RIP TO UT DAD @POSTER

Sorry for your loss. The useless hospital killed him. You should have gone to a private hospital. Not that Nigerian private hospitals are good, they're just a little better than government owned ones.

Nigeria has the worst health sector in the world. In fact, nothing in Nigeria works well, nothing! And nothing ruins a country more than endemic corruption.

There are at least 5 tertiary health facilities in Lagos state. LASUTH, LUTH, FMC ebutemeta, Federal neuropsychiatric hospital yaba, national orthopaedic hospital, Igbobi. So..yea, that should do for 20million people if the primary centres work well and if people visit the hospitals early for their ailments.
We can't even strip Lagos government of the credit. Best managers around, I tell you.

PS: I don't work for them in Lagos. #TeamKano

persius555:
It is appauling to know that a state with over 20 milion people has less than four teaching hospital. These are ones we call standard specialist hospitals even when we know the services rendered are not close to okay. Any service that that requires a long chain of department inputs in nigeria hardly fully functions because we are simply bad managers at anything we do. Another sad story. RIP to the dead.

I know of a National hospital staff who had sever back pain, whenever the pains come, it prevents him from sitting, he could only lie. So he was diagnosed in NH where he works, the doctors concluded he needed surgery. But another doctor who knows how careless they are with surgeries advice this man to go abroad and sick medical attention, which he did. He went to Saudi Arabia, what they said needed surgery in Nigeria was treated with drugs within one week in Saudi Arabia.

Realtouchnot:


When was her work hour supposed to end? I assume she was not on call, cos if she were, she wouldn't make that request.
If she was to end her normal work hour by 4pm, then you have no moral high ground to punish her. Working for extra hours should be her choice not by compulsion.

If the traffic closes down on her because she's doing over time, would you cook for her family? If her home scatters because of little issues like this, wouldn't talk about her divorce? Did you bother to ask if any of her children were ill. What if her dad or mom were ill? She probably left home that morning and had made plans of what to do to her other responsibilities when work closes. Who's supposed to take over from her? Where was her equivalence on call?

If her normal work hour was to end by 4pm, she had every right to know how much longer you wanted to keep her as the 'oga'. So if the patient does not considerably pick up by 11pm, wouldn't the hospital still expect her to perform her duties from 8am the next day?

She's a human and a woman, if she falls ill as a result of too much work, who takes responsibility for her bills. What if she dies, would anyone, including you care?

You said she's your younger colleague, so it's possible she had worked the whole day, while the only work you were doing that day was the resuscitation. So you're not just in her shoes.

In as much as I resent negligence, people shouldn't die because they're doctors. In fact, her error margin would be so small after working for long hours, and if she kills any patient as result of mistakes form her fatigue(an exhausted doctor is a dangerous doctor), she would have to face Council on her own. There's a maximum number of hours a doctor must not go beyond. Things should be done the right way. There's no need trying to wipe up sentiments! Have you the told the management to employ more hands if that's what you need.

If indeed you punished her for requesting to go when her work hour ended, you didn't do well. You need to issue her an appology, cos you probably did that in error and she deserves an appology. Except you haven't told us the whole truth. I really hate it when people punish their subordinates just because they feel they have the power. Nonetheless, I appreciate your zeal, but going out your way to help should only be by choice.

Finally, I get mad when people expect to see angels in Nigerian government Hospitals. Is there any government institution where things work? There's a general decay of systems in Nigeria and the hospitals can never be exceptions. In fact, to me the hospitals are even doing very well. The same nurses we term lackadaisical, when they need the services of other government institutions, they see more lackadaisical attitudes in the workers there. How do you expect them to be angels?

I guess you Mises the part where I said a gasping man?

Every issue you have listed is secondary.

Let me ask you if it was your father would you take this stand.

Ps doctors will soon begin a nationwie strike. Am lookimg forward to seeing you hop up and down threads screaming Hippocratic oath.

Imagine this man, I said a human being is dying you are talking of traffic and duty time. I hope to God you are not a health personnel, if you are you represent all those who insults are heaped upon all the time.

Imagine what you are saying. A man was dying!!!! Get that into your skull.

twoondei:
sorry about your loss.
A few things I'd like to point out.
LASUTH is probably one of the most efficient government hospitals around if you know your way around. probably the only teaching hospital in Nigeria where power hasn't gone off in about four years.
The very worst cases in Lagos end up in LASUTH, you were referred from ikorodu, there are 25 other general hospitals, with about a thousand private hospitals in Lagos that refer when they can no longer manage these cases.
It is unarguably the busiest too. Check data on Google.
Down to your suggestions
1. The nurses and doctors you see in that compound value lives so much but there's only so much they can do. The medical emergency has three to four nurses on every shift with at least 45 critically ill patients. They MUST write reports on whatever they do and the state of their patients on every shift so when litigation comes, like this one might head, something shows your hard work.

2. There is indeed a quality assurance unit in that hospital, there's even a "complain to me" unit that make sure you get prompt services when due. The ambulance problem should have been relayed to them. That's one of the things they help out with.
LASUTH has more than five functional ambulances and I also know some diagnostic centres bring their vans inside.
The doctor who asked for a CT from a particular place has his reasons; MECURE probably has the best machine and gives the clearest view around LASUTH.

3. on investigation of deaths in the hospital; Lagos government passed a law mandating hospitals to carry out autopsies on "coroner's cases". Simply put, anyone who's cause of death hasn't been medically established before death should be autopsied, this also includes any patient who dies within 24hours of admission in LASUTH. I know this rule is still in place but again,people get waivers from all sorts of places fir religious reasons and this has been a major cog in the wheels of this rule.
Deaths are discussed at departmental levels every week and doctors are scolded when found culpable. You can ask any LASUTH doctor you know.

4. A lot of policies should indeed be reviewed. More professionals need to be employed, a good number of times, doctors and nurses have collapsed on duty. Theres presently a restriction on employment at most levels of government now, so you see a doctor do a 36hr shift twice a week. Meanwhile, he has family members at home.

5. Monitoring has been addressed.

6. Interdepartmental collaboration does exist but the communication channels are not as effective. You have to drop a consult, or call the registrar over the phone who probably is in the theatre or attending to another surgical patient. There's no one assigned to see consults in particular.

7. Oversight functions: I also know that there's a health facility monitoring agency in Lagos and I know the chairman house committee on health, Hon. Olulade visits LASUTH from time to time without prior notification.

Overall, the goal is to make things work in Lagos.
Again, sorry about your loss. May God give you the fortitude to bear the loss.

And yes, I support your cause. #valuenigerians

You do not support any cause not with these your damn insidious coloured justifications that littered your drops on your submission. You wouldnt have written in such a tone if you were the victim like the OP. Just get it into your brain that LASUTH is a rot of hell with untrained indifferent health workers who do not value human lives. Your prooving of their these and that does not change the general mess and unprofessional outlook of their staff. Call a spade a spade and outrighly condem their entire system with raising unjustify excuses of their abilities and capabilies in the midst of DECAY. You sound too modest to be true. Hope you will not narrate his kind of ordeal, peradventure you are visited with such. OP, MAY GOD COMFORT YOU THE MORE.

Favolly:

You're a doctor? Wow!

Interesting isn't it.

armadeo:
Dude. Sorry about your loss. I completely understand how You feel.

Medical personnel don't understand that people who come to you comemfoe help and they are lackadaisical when it comes to doing thier JOBS!!

I feel sad whenever I read such, in my experience many are guilty fromnDrs to nurses to every other staff.

Let me say an experience I had that till shocks me till date. ( I am a doctor).

We had a patient who bled a lot following a surgery and was rushed back some days adyer discharge after he collapsed. I was rushing and grabbing everything in reach to resuscitate this man while doing all this the junior Dr attached to me told me it was after 4 that traffic would build up to her house that she wanted to know how long we would stay.

Believe me I was shocked into complete paralysis. I looked at the man I was managing thinking maybe I was hallucinating the entire episode and a gasping man wasn't under my hands. But There he was.

I ensured the severest punishment for her attitude was given to her ( not complete disqualification) but even my HOD who had never heard my voice above a certain pitch heard me scream when I was reporting the case.

I asked for her dismissal but was said to be too angry on that issue. Well the man survived. I know what I went through, how many times I ran from home to the hospital at night because of him, because that is what I am paid to do.

I think it a thing of pride were patients ask to see me personally just because of the attention I give to them. I am not blowing my trumpet. Just today alone I have gotten 3 bottles of wine and a package which contains imported tomatoes and other stuff from walk in patients.

This is what I live for.

We need to know why we are doing what we do. I always assume my patient to be my relative, some can be annoying but nobody goes to a mechanic to check a well functioning car.

Thank you bro, thank you bro thank you bro...ive left home now for a while and i cant imagine how BAD our health system runs ....i was reading drerdd post and was shaking with mixed emotions... anger and sadnness....

wiseoneking:
You do not support any cause not with these your damn insidious coloured justifications that littered your drops on your submission. You wouldnt have written in such a tone if you were the victim like the OP. Just get it into your brain that LASUTH is a rot of hell with untrained indifferent health workers who do not value human lives. Your prooving of their these and that does not change the general mess and unprofessional outlook of their staff. Call a spade a spade and outrighly condem their entire system with raising unjustify excuses of their abilities and capabilies in the midst of DECAY. You sound too modest to be true. Hope you will not narrate his kind of ordeal, peradventure you are visited with such. OP, MAY GOD COMFORT YOU THE MORE.

WiseoneKing, sorry.
May your assertion help rectify the rot in the system sir.
Long live the king.

Nigerians and their eye service. We are getting what we paid for. If you need good care pay for it or better still get your ass abroad.

Every Nigerian is now a saint throwing shades at doctors and nurses, these are one of the most pristine professions in the world. Ever ask your self why they treat Nigerians like scum but when they eventually hops on the next plane abroad they all acts professionally, huh It's because thats how we roll here, from the FG, security agencies, private company workers, lecturers, teachers, civil servants in fact every facets of Nigeria system is where you find peeps that needs attitudinal and spiritual cleansing.
They are the product of our own faulty system as we all are. When you breath, eat and defecate in Nigeria, there is no how your mentality will change as we are living in the prison of our own creation..…the Merry go round of bad attitudes and bullshits.

Its sad that this is the situation in every government owned hospital, many years ago I had a bout of malaria and I went to our university clinic to see a doctor, I met two nurses chatting away their time and when they finally gave me attention they said that there was no doctor to see me that I had to come back on Monday!! what?? this was on a Friday and you are asking someone that could barely walk to come back on Monday? anyway I left that place and vowed never to return to that place till I leave that school( unizik) and I never did. Some weeks back I took my dad to see an E.N.T specialist at Nauth Nnewi and after three whole visits we could not see the specialist. we had to go to a private hospital which is ironically owned by one of the doctors working in the same hospital before we got attended to. At times I wonder what is intrinsically wrong with this country why are we like this? At times I wonder if we are cursed in this country as nothing seems to work. May God deliver us Amen.

ZOO..

Is Nigeria not a Zoo ?

Rip to your dad.

armadeo:


I guess you Mises the part where I said a gasping man?

Every issue you have listed is secondary.

Let me ask you if it was your father would you take this stand.

Ps doctors will soon begin a nationwie strike. Am lookimg forward to seeing you hop up and down threads screaming Hippocratic oath.

Imagine this man, I said a human being is dying you are talking of traffic and duty time. I hope to God you are not a health personnel, if you are you represent all those who insults are heaped upon all the time.

Imagine what you are saying. A man was dying!!!! Get that into your skull.

You're quite wrong dear. How would you punish someone on grounds of moral rather than ethics. It's wrong.
I actually do more for my patients, in fact I always go extra mile. But I hate people bragging about their fault. Your junior colleague is a human and has conscience, so some big issues could be disturbing her. It's her right to go home after a thorough job in the day, that's why some Drs are to be on call.

nuelyoyo:
I know of a National hospital staff who had sever back pain, whenever the pains come, it prevents him from sitting, he could only lie. So he was diagnosed in NH where he works, the doctors concluded he needed surgery. But another doctor who knows how careless they are with surgeries advice this man to go abroad and sick medical attention, which he did. He went to Saudi Arabia, what they said needed surgery in Nigeria was treated with drugs within one week in Saudi Arabia.

Thank God for her, but I hope not the type that Nigerian Drs told Akunyili that she needed a surgery while Drs abroad said she didn't need that.
You that's trying to ridicule Nigerian Drs, where are you now and what have you achieved in your field. What have you done for humanity.
Mtchwww

freedomlast:


Your mindset is appalling.

People like you are the issue with the country.

So if you were dying and being attended to in an understaffed hospital, you would high-five the doctor if he or she left you in the middle of an emergency, just because it was closing time?

So many wicked people, always passing the blame and not willing to work on what they have control over.

I'm very sure your mind is more appalling than mine. You're so hypocritical and don't understand how the hospital works. It's not about emotions, it's about reality. The Dr also have her problems to settle amd the 'oga' that punished her was probably supposed to do the job.

armadeo:


Interesting isn't it.

Oh, I think it's very interesting

Realtouchnot:


You're quite wrong dear. How would you punish someone on grounds of moral rather than ethics. It's wrong.
I actually do more for my patients, in fact I always go extra mile. But I hate people bragging about their fault. Your junior colleague is a human and has conscience, so some big issues could be disturbing her. It's her right to go home after a thorough job in the day, that's why some Drs are to be on call.

Guy. I stillndont believe what you are saying

EZEIGBO1OFIMO:
I had a Pretty terrible experience, this time it was my mom, she had a burst appendix and had to go for surgery, they kept tossing her about, and the rude nurses were just nothing to write about, in fact every staff of Gbagada General Hospital will rot in hell for premeditated Murder. We finally moved her to a private hospital and she got the best treatment , for which I was thankful for. GOVERMENT HOSPITALS AR USELESS!!.. I REPEAT GOVERNMENT HOSPITALS ARE USELESS. CC lagusta come and defend your useless colleagues

Looooolz......

I've been hearing terrible stories about the gbagada hospital......

Ambode and the health commissioner needs to look into this!!!!!

drered:
This breaks my heart..

my dear,the Nigerian health sector is something else.You need to know someone who has a high authority in the hospital before they treat u well.when I went for my operation last year,I cried at the sight I saw.People rushed into the emergency ward were treated like trash.My operation was performed by expert doctors because my church member whom my mum spoke to made sure of it.I had over 10 medical personnel in the theater with me during my operation because the woman from my church who happens to be in charge of the Emergency unit was on d neck of everyone who was to perform the operation.
I saw how lives were treated in d hospital.Even after my operation when I was wheeled in a stretcher to the female ward,the staff in blue (2of them) told me to come down from the stretcher by myself after an operation ? I was like "How do u expect me to do that?" ...........it will take a lot to heal all the medical sector in Nigeria.That is why I pray for God to take me away in my sleep when the time comes

Op,please take heart on your loss

Lagusta:

Looooolz......
I've been hearing terrible stories about the gbagada hospital......
Ambode and the health commissioner needs to look into this!!!!!

Hope you are not among those Killers?

Realtouchnot:



I'm very sure your mind is more appalling than mine. You're so hypocritical and don't understand how the hospital works. It's not about emotions, it's about reality. The Dr also have her problems to settle and the 'oga' that punished her was probably supposed to do the job.

No, my mind is ok.

First of all, I don't need to understand how a hospital works, so long as I am a human being, and I expect that someone who calls herself a doctor would have some bit of compassion in her.

It isn't compulsory to be a Doctor if you can't exercise the basic requirement of valuing a human life above your own convenience.

My mom worked for 35 years in the medical field as a very respected and cherished practitioner, so don't try to bamboozle me here.

You couldn't even exercise your mind to consider the fact that the situation described is terrible and abnormal.

Instead of excusing such a terrible display of non-nonchalance and animal-like behavioral attitudes, you are here giving ludicrous support.

The statements you made were disappointing to say the least.

Realtouchnot:


Thank God for her, but I hope not the type that Nigerian Drs told Akunyili that she needed a surgery while Drs abroad said she didn't need that.
You that's trying to ridicule Nigerian Drs, where are you now and what have you achieved in your field. What have you done for humanity.
Mtchwww

Can you just read the drivel you typed here? If you are a doctor, you shouldn't be allowed to practice at all.

And to think, if you are truly a doctor, that you must have spent at least 8-10 years in a university!

Or maybe it's the curses rained down on you and your murderous type that's making your intellect malfunction like this.

reminiscing:

Hope you are not among those Killers?

Thank God I haven't killed anyone before, and I don't pray I start killing anyone soon.....

twoondei:


WiseoneKing, sorry. May your assertion help rectify the rot in the system sir. Long live the king.

i think you are not bad by your answer. Good for you dear.

nnamdiokere45:
same with Isolo general hospital.
I remember wn my sis needed and urgent surgery.she was brought in arund 9am, dem jst dump qm der till 10pm.dis was sumone unconscious.tank God she survived

they brought my dad around 8pm ,and performed surgery on him 9pm next day.. he was on oxygen all this while.. he died the next day, after surgery.. they were all interested in money..

telemapreye1:
Sorry for your loss op I lost my father same way too at isolo general hospital,they didn't attend to him...Kept giving diffrent excuses until he dues in my arms.
I carried him till he died in my arm alone with tears in his eyes
I can never forget my father tears

I feel heartbroken by this statement, it’s hard to imagine what’s going through the man’s mind before he shed his final tears..... so sad