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Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by nwadiuko1(m): 7:08am On Jun 28, 2016 |
last last, how much be everything? 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by CASTOSVILLA(m): 7:11am On Jun 28, 2016 |
NLresidentQS:I didn't like how you described the work of the Architect here. He's the Chief consultant, he employs and supervises other professionals involved in any building project. This is a part we neglect and do not inform the clients about due to reasons best known to you guys. We don't only make designs, we supervise the project strictly with the guidance of the design so that the client will get his demand. OP who told you that a structural engineer is involved in the aesthetic designing of any building? Please say what you know. 9 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by thisisod(m): 7:14am On Jun 28, 2016 |
You can get an excel sheet that does all the estimation and quantification from me. With a bonus of a quick concrete content calculator that give you the quantity of sand, cement and water to produce your concreting work with your selected mix ratio 08115801276, ikpehchi@gmail.com 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by vhictour(m): 7:17am On Jun 28, 2016 |
GREATEST QUANTIFIERS.............. Nice nd brilliant write up OP..... 2 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by troubleshooter: 7:32am On Jun 28, 2016 |
@Op, pls are U a new school leaver? what is d motive 4 this tread? The building industry has been grappling with the inundation of overwhelming presence of quacks in every practice. How come u are shooting urself and other professionals by handing the necessary tools needed to all existing & aspiring quacks. Don't u think u owe ur profession the duty to preserve its sanctity. U shld have bn rational enough to know when 'little' becomes 'too much' Uve laid bare here the anatomy of a simple building wch is enough info 4 me. Why do I need a Q/S anymore? Thanx anyway. Its still people like u that wld come here sometime later and complain that architects & builders are carpet-crossing into ur professional practice. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by write2obi(m): 7:34am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Egunmogaji you are needed here *runs out of thread * 3 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by AssoJnr: 7:36am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Sorry bro, the site plan is the responsibility of a Town Planner not Surveyor. following... 3 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by oluwatosin67: 7:37am On Jun 28, 2016 |
After thoroughly studying this piece.,,My QS is out of job... Nice one OP 4 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by kulee(m): 7:41am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Bros, you are doing a good job. Please keep it up. Can we request for pictures were necessary thanks 2 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Tochex101(m): 7:55am On Jun 28, 2016 |
What a way to start the day, knowledge is power.
Beautiful one OP. |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Tochex101(m): 7:56am On Jun 28, 2016 |
troubleshooter:INFORMATION 2 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by suteco16: 8:01am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Noted |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by bisola99: 8:03am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Nice informative analysis op! Let me av yur contact tru; boldvilleproperties@gmail.com |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by emmaliver(m): 8:04am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Make i follow dey here dey learn |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by troubleshooter: 8:10am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Tochex101:Information for who? Building construction isn't a DIY like agriculture or some handcraft. He's doing a good job of tutoring more quacks. He deserves more than a pat in d back. |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Nobody: 8:42am On Jun 28, 2016 |
write2obi: **knocks but no one answers **opens door and walks into a dark room **flicks on the light switch, nothing **mutters "koni dafun NEPA" **walks out and closes the door **going home but will stop to get some opa eyin **salivates on how that woman will get his "ibon to ti ki" tonight |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by seguntijan(m): 8:49am On Jun 28, 2016 |
NLresidentQS: Well analyzed but not yet complete without the BUILDER THEN WHO IS A BUILDER? someone first asked, what is the difference between a builder and a civil engineer? I took time to enlightened him; read along with me. Concerning professionals in construction industry, let me briefly state the roles of relating profession. we all believe that the major role of an architect is production of building plans; considering some principles, (not to construct or supervise building production.) Her own is to liaise with the builder on how to bring his dream on the CAD or paper to reality. The builder ensures BUILDABLITY. Mind you, Architectural design is not a graphics design. For acclaimed civil Engineers, categorically speaking, they have seven branches and that a part of it is the structures. The role of structural engineer is to design for all structural members such as beams, columns slabs structural steelwork etc., liaise her design with the builder on how visible is the fabrication of all these members and their arrangement to fulfill the aim of his design( under worst loading the structure most not fail). A building services man designs for mechanical/ electrical services and liaise with builder on the arrangement and fixing ( hmmm... I know you will argue that he can't do that) The quantity surveyor takes care of the estimations of project. Now, who understands estimation process the more? structural engineer, architect, others professionals? The fact remains that, if (Qs) overestimate or price substandard materials or add up what is not suppose to be, it is only a builder that understand the techniques of estimation. so what's now the work of a builder? From the aforementioned premises, judge for yourself. The next question the person asked is ,you mean it is only builders that can do all d work on site, when it comes to structures? I laughed, and i gave emphatic NO. According to Nigeria building code, builders are not trained to hijack the work of other professions but due to the vast scope of our profession, we use all the knowledge we gain from all others professions to carry out BUILDING PRODUCTION MANAGEMENT.... That's why a builder can easily detect error and suggest correction to architect design because, whenever he sees design, he does not only view it from the perspective based on architectural mentality alone but reason about the structural stability, estimation in other to be economically safe and comfort of the occupant(s) and maintenance including the aesthetical view. Hope you are getting along. The next question ,what is d difference between structural and civil engineer? To me, to call someone civil engineer is a wrong usage because the word ''civil engineer'' is like a general name that encompasses all construction expertise. so, ''structural engineer'' is someone who's area of specialisation in civil engineering is mainly in structures. someone that specialise in highway construction is not a structural engineer which implies he/she should not have any thing to do with structures. Mind you, a structural engineer is not a builder Friends, construction is in three(3) aspects. The design, fabrication(pro duction and management) and maintenance. So, if your interest is more of design, then, architecture or civil engineering is good but if your interest is the actual construction of building (of course, we all want to bring our dreams of building or structure to come true) then, the best choice for you is to call on '' A BUILDER'' which in the profession is the only professional that span across all other professions in construction company industries for effective delivery of a project. NB. As regards the incessant building collapse in Nigeria that have been recorded so far, who then are those responsible for such project. Is it not those that form bossy on such project(s) and yet it collapsed? Hummm... the so called engineers, architects and sometimes Estate surveyors. Mind you,since the builders have been handling projects and structure, BUILDERS have NO record(s) on building that are managed and supervised by a professional builders that have ever collapsed in Nigeria !!! you can Google search to confirm... No not one.(1) ...ALL PROFESSIONS IN BUILT ENVIRONMENT ARE UNIQUE IN THEIR OWN WAYS.. The next question is, who is now suppose to be the project manager of structures? Be wise, choose by yourself. Let me say a project manager is someone that have knowledge to manage a project. Mind you, project are of different types. Here, We talk about structures, who is suppose to be the project manager? Be wise, engage professional (builders) for effective delivery. BUILDERS BUILD RIGHT. Compiled by Atom 5 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by segbuwa: 8:54am On Jun 28, 2016 |
welldone bro, keep it up |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by girl4rmspace(f): 9:18am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Building a house is a whole lot of work, i cant go through all that stress, which is why i prefer buying a house of my choice and tweaking it to my taste. |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by BoboFashion(m): 9:20am On Jun 28, 2016 |
girl4rmspace: That gonna require much money nah. 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by girl4rmspace(f): 9:21am On Jun 28, 2016 |
BoboFashion:if there's anything worth spending a fortune on. Its the house you live in |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by 2poundz(m): 9:30am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Nice Topic op, i guess this is the best i'v read on NL so far. Thanx alot 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Rubyventures: 9:34am On Jun 28, 2016 |
At what stage do you do the electrics and plumbing, cos I cant see I on any of these lists. |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by BoboFashion(m): 9:40am On Jun 28, 2016 |
girl4rmspace: You re on point! |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Nobody: 10:07am On Jun 28, 2016 |
NLresidentQS: so you are teaching people how to do your work? nobody does that bro. You better stop 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Nobody: 10:10am On Jun 28, 2016 |
troubleshooter: the op is an idiot.. what is then the point of your profession if you teach anybody how to estimate. what does qs do a part from taking off 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Nobody: 10:13am On Jun 28, 2016 |
oluwatosin67: cc Nlresidentqs you better go and start learning trade because this is what with happened with you next. 1 Like |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by abdurrazaq(m): 10:21am On Jun 28, 2016 |
The little the OP know about QS seems to be 'shacking' him hence, the reason for this thread. However, I need to point out that what you're doing here is unprofessional, unethical and unhealthy for the economy. To those that think whatever posted here or that'll still be posted in relation to this topic is enough to execute construction projects without due consultation of concerned professionals, I'll implore you to rethink that as it may not be true for all projects. To the guy who believes the architect leads the construction industry, I'll not disagree totally with you because that's usually the case under the traditional procurement method but, in other emerging and effective methods of construction project procurement, any PROFESSIONAL within the built industry can be the project leader. The fact that architects design the building does not automatically qualify them as the leader. He is just one of the consultants. To the structural engineer who thinks he is the only person that can estimate for civil engineering projects, unfortunately that's incorrect. A structural engineer is to design structural stability of facilities while the QS is responsible for the cost and contract administration of such facilities (your civil engineering and even process engineering projects inclusive). The QS is the only legally recognised professional and the MOST qualified professional to administer construction project cost. Back to the OP, you're not doing the profession any harm rather, you're doing yourself harm. By the time you're done 'shooting yourself in the foot', even the small 3-bedroom flats you think you're an expert in estimating their costs won't be contacted to you rather given out to 'quacks' to handle. You are not a QS but an impostor because a QS know what professional conduct is all about something that is far from your reach. Peace 3 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by hopara1(m): 10:22am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Greatest buider!Great!no mind dat wanna be QS guy with him incomplete team!Am a Prof.Builder in-view!pls i go like to get more n more enligtmemt from u jare.becus we builders makes imaginations(paper works) to become REALITY! @Seguntijan, Atom 2 Likes |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by lionel4mercy: 10:24am On Jun 28, 2016 |
a good one, |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by Buildertobadt: 10:30am On Jun 28, 2016 |
Good job. More of educative and informative pieces as this. |
Re: Estimating Building Costs, One Step At A Time. by phemmy88(m): 10:36am On Jun 28, 2016 |
dedarkman: Did u just typed that? I have 3 questions for you sir. 1. Which University did you attend 2. How many years of experience did you have 3. what grade did you pass out with 3 Likes |
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