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Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by skywolf28(m): 12:52pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012: Are you now saying bros j is an ogbanje |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 12:54pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by proudkafir: 1:39pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:I am doing a thread on Mohammed's illegal marriage to his adopted son's wife, saheed, with a full Quranic and historical references. We must do our best to expose this Arabian criminal, Mohammed ibn abdullahh and his criminal religion, which is izlam. A religion built on lies, lies, lies and violence. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by najib632(m): 1:50pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
[quote author=truthman2012 post=47331764][/quote]There are seven heavens and God's throne is above them all. The heavens are Planets far bigger and purer than our own I'll like you to read this article and I like you to have an open mind when reading it spirituality-and-religion.com/muhammads-night-journey-to-seven/ |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 1:55pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
proudkafir: Expeting !!! |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Geist(m): 2:30pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:How does my post sound like am fighting with you or even disrespecting you? I only stated the fact that you are ignorant of what what the Bible says of Christ resurrection. Firstly, you do not need terrestrial body in resurrection, anything could have happened to that of Jesus like that of Moses. In the final resurrection when the dead in Christ will rise first, their terrestrial bodies would have been long decayed and it will not be needed. Would you say because their body had rottened they will not resurrect?rather than answer the questions posited in my posts you went into this long explanation of ogbanje and abiku for what? Trying to equate Christ resurrection with that of ogbanjes and abiku? If this resurrected body or celestial body as you called it can carry wounds, needs the stone at the bomb where Jesus was laid to be moved off so it can pass and then wined and dined with the apostles in Galilee. How exactly is it different from the terrestrial body that died? |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 2:42pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Geist: You made up your mind for vain argument from the start, notwithstanding any explanations I make. May I ask you: when people who had died thousands of years ago will resurrect, whose bodies had decayed, some eaten up by animals, how will it happen if they need their terrestrial bodies? |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by aminusanti(m): 3:01pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
analice107:a dockey will have a better levels than u in the next life if u are not careful.. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 3:08pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
aminusanti: Stop the islamic falsehood, animals have no spirit and so they don't resurrect, there is no next life for them. There are no animals in heaven, unless you are referring to your fictitious al-jannah. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Geist(m): 3:12pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:Brother I never mentioned anything about terrestrial body. You brought it up. The Bible only talks of one body which dies once and then gets resurrected after which it can die no more. For it is only what has died that can be resurrected. Saying the terrestrial body which dies is different from the celestial body which resurrects is in fact complete ignorance of what the word resurrection means. For if the celestial body did not die then how can it resurrect? Or was it alive with the terrestrial body for it to have died with the terrestrial body? For it is only that which is alive that dies in the first place. So you see sir, there are many complications with the theory you are trying to propound here. As to how the dead body which has long decayed can be resurrected, you will have to ask your Almighty Yahweh but I doubt you would get answer. The good thing though is that if you believe Yahweh is all powerful then it shouldn't be too difficult to accept that he can raise the dead body no matter how decayed their have become. 1 Like |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by aminusanti(m): 4:06pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:dats wat u are good at misquoting verses, n people everyone knows about that mr man pls |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by analice107: 4:11pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
aminusanti:You just confirmed my suspicion. You are a Donkey. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 4:16pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
This is funny though, I don't see how the muslims gonna defend that! Besides , didn't many so called Christians also claim Jesus is living as human in heaven presently , is that not flesh and blood ? |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by aminusanti(m): 4:23pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
analice107:ok appreciated |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 4:23pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012: Having spirit has nothing to do with ressurection bro, for the record animals have same spirit with man ( Ecc 3:19-21) |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 4:33pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Geist: Hear this and this may be my final response to you: 1 Corinthians 15:40 ► There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 4:47pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Jozzy4: What is your point really? Ecc.3:21 Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth? Solomon, the speaker himself was not sure of what it is. If he wasn't sure of where they go, how was he sure of the existence of animal spirit? Your reference is irrelevant. We have seen man resurrect, have you heard any animal resurrect? |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Scholar8200(m): 4:49pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Jozzy4:Can you show me just ONE passage in the Bible where an animal is said to yield up the ghost? or where animals were said to have an inner self? If yes, pls go ahead. If no, then I go along with the contextual usage that shows the usage of spirit in that passage relates to breath, not the inner man! |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 5:08pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200: What about inner woman? You guys like to deceive yourselfs. Animals have spirit , also breath of life. That's the point |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 5:11pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012: Read from verse 19, animals have same spirit as man. He was asking where the spirit of man and animals go, not that he wasn't sure of its existence please! Going by your logic, that means man don't have spirit too since both are mentioned in that verse. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by truthman2012(m): 5:11pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Jozzy4: You are spiritually ignorant, may God enlighten you. I suspect you an atheist, if so I don't expect you to be spiritual. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Scholar8200(m): 5:31pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Jozzy4:Here are some of the passages you just mocked: 16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day 2 Corinthians 4:16 16 that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man Ephesians 3:16 So, it's a BIBLICAL term! Now would you be kind enough to address the other post? |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 6:04pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012: Ecc 3:19-21, animals have spirit too |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Jozzy4: 6:30pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
Scholar8200: Since you found it in your translation, it equals biblical term, right ? If there is an inner man, for women would they have an inner man too ? Or theirs is inner woman ? Besides , does it mean your immaterial soul is being replaced everyday since its been renewed each day. The way u guys interpreted the bible with your pagan Greek philosophies baffles me .. The Apostle is reffering to the kind of person we truly are inside. For example: Handsome Ezekiel goes to church every Sunday, to everyone that sees him, he is religious and zealous BUT deep within him Ezekiel know he is corrupt, filthy . that inner kind of person is what the apostle is reffering to. That's what is been made new everyday, they are putting on the new personalty. In fact Compare Ephesians 4:24 , while some versions say put on the new self , some say PUT ON THE NEW MAN . lol I guess it means put on a human being or immaterial soul according to you . |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Geist(m): 6:48pm On Jul 09, 2016 |
truthman2012:Brother read your Bible in full and not in parts. The passage was trying to explain how the body when resurrected cannot die because it has more glory than it did before death. I talked about different flesh(terrestrial body) having differing levels glory and also how the sun , moon and stars(celestial body) have differing levels of glory . It in no way inferred that the human body would take a new body. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by Rilwon: 8:08am On Jul 10, 2016 |
truthman2012: I already made my point clear up there. For you to believe Allah raised him up to heaven, you cannot question how he would make him survive in heaven. You can't eat your cake and have it. My friend, I discovered you are dodging my question: ''Why would Jesus not die as quran says he is a prophet like those who died"? You cannot question the way of the Almighty, can you? That is not another argument as it has to do with Jesus dying or not and islamic claim that he was taken to heaven alive. It doesn't stand. |
Re: Muslim: How Is It Possible For Jesus To Live As A Human Being In Heaven? by OLAJADON: 8:35am On Jul 10, 2016 |
truthman2012:truthman2012, are u having doubt about your religion? since i have know u all ur life is anti-islamic,since u said jesus is lord y dont u wait for d day of qiyamat and see if e will save u or r u having doubt? if no then leave muslims to our religion it is only when u have discovered the truth and u looking for everyway to convince urslf u will make heaven thereby looking for everyway to tarnish d image of islam Guy remember u will die one day and d angel of death will ask u four questions. |
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