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Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by saintdennis(m): 7:43am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav: You MUST reference it as a "translation". I don't need to be a lawyer to know your point was ludicrous. Things fall apart for example was translated into many languages BUT the original authors were referenced while u will then see on the cover "translated into portuguese by....." Even in textbooks where there are many contributors you only see the title: compiled by ******. Then usually there will be page listing all contributors. I haven't read either book BUT I strongly believe it's worth investigating for the sake of justice. The OP should forward it to the right channels. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by shaboti: 7:45am On Jul 16, 2016 |
HalfTruth:abi ur madness want to graduate Pig 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by onegig(m): 7:45am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav: You are very wrong on this. Plagiarism means you're misrepresenting earlier work as your own, a book or text contains more than mere words; they contain syntaxes, sequence, structures, narratives and much more. The original structure, sequence, characters and such may also be copyrightable, thus a translation would be a derivative work and a copyright infringement. You must reference all works, yes facts and ideas can't be copyrighted but it would still be plagiarism if you took someone's book, translated it and did not reference earlier works along the lines you toured. If Cyprian didn't reference it then i guess it was error of understanding the basic rules of copyright and i would be gutted if such an acclaimed writer made such a huge error. 5 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by ipledge10(m): 7:46am On Jul 16, 2016 |
MChaze25:thank you |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by musicwriter(m): 7:46am On Jul 16, 2016 |
I remember cramming that book from chapter one to end. And when I recited it off hand at a school event it was just unbelievable as both pupils and teachers just have their jaws dropped in excitment. I don't know whether children still do that type of thing these days. 5 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by oglalasioux(m): 7:46am On Jul 16, 2016 |
All Nigerian novelists plagiarized in one way or the other including Chinua Achebe. However, if Ekwensi's case is verbatim then an enquiry is very okay. Plagiarism is not new. Who ever talks of J.F Kennedy's inauguration speech of 'ask not what your country can do for you, ask for what you can do for your country' as verbatim from a Nazi Germany party slogan. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by hUmaneOne: 7:49am On Jul 16, 2016 |
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Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by SIRTee15: 7:59am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav: wole Soyinka translated fagunwa's books to English and he acknowledged the original writer. u can't just sit down and start plagiarizing someone's work into another language without the owner's permission. China Achebe's book, things fall apart has been translated into different languages with each writer acknowledging the original author. not doing so is nothing short of plagiarism. u can sit down in Nigeria and plagiarize Shakespeare works because: 1. Nigeria has no serious copyright laws. 2. the literary institution in Nigeria is weak filled with hungry authors, thus poor effort is made to scrutinize published work. 3. u can easily get ur book published by Oluwole-like publishers who care less about plagiarism. 4. ur book will most likely not go beyond the borders of Yoruba speaking states, so the consequences if the book garner international attention will most likely not suffice. of course, you can recreate Romeo and Juliet in another language, using local content and your own original ideas, but for u to sit down and translate Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet verbatim without permission from the publishers or reference to the original author is nothing else but plagiarism. 6 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by endove(f): 8:06am On Jul 16, 2016 |
rheether:Nne iji ya. Amam na oburu na o bu Onye be ha dere ya bu akwukwuo, ha agaghi ano ebea na akogheri 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Redoil: 8:10am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Dexema:mine is the passport of mallam ila 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Dexema(m): 8:15am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Redoil:action packed novel that ended as a tragedy. drummer boy is also a wonderful piece. , I suggest you go through the thread on classic books by Ishilove , u will thoroughly enjoy it. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Paretomaster(m): 8:15am On Jul 16, 2016 |
no wonder, the whole setting and names in the African Night Entertainment is completely Hausa, Cyprian...didnt even bother to change anything.... anyway no be today E start....have been seeing traces of MAGANA...JARI CE in some famous works too... 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by adexsimply(m): 8:24am On Jul 16, 2016 |
kindness4life:he died 9 years ago 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Morizo(m): 8:29am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav:Beauty meet brains I guess. you just nailed it Cocolav. I couldn't have explained it any better even as a member of the literature world. Cyprian Ekwensi was a magnificent writer with deep fictional reserves. He wouldn't have stooped so low without due recourse to the law. Keep it up babe, would b following ur posts and comments henceforth |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by babadee1(m): 8:38am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav: You can decide to make money off Shakespeare's works in English too as there is no outstanding copyright on Shakespeare. However, it is illegal to translate an author's work into another language without permission. 3 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by bellville: 8:39am On Jul 16, 2016 |
I agree with Cocolav. Cyprian Ekwensi may be assigned rights to publish the book in English. A respected author like Ekwensi would not plagiarise. He was an icon. For the best of Cyprian Ekwensi's works: Lokotown and other stories, Trouble in form six, the drummer boy, Jagua Nana's daughter, The passport of Mallam Ilia, check my signature. Prompt delivery throughout Nigeria. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Mayflowa(m): 8:41am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Fresia01: Seriously? We are talking about legendary works, people we model after and study their thinking faculty and analyze their thought process. Really? In other clime, discovering this type of flaws makes u a celebrity already. Origination is very key in literature and other diverse areas of interest. 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by adexsimply(m): 8:48am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav:No ma'am. You can't just decide to translate Shakespeare's works without obtaining permission from the legal body(s) handling his affairs and without referencing him in your works. That's intellectual theft. The bolded statement is very very wrong, "even if permission was not obtained"? Then it is plagiarism, simple. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by obailala(m): 8:51am On Jul 16, 2016 |
@Op.. I totally doubt a renown and respectable writer like Cyprain Ekwensi would just pick-up and copy a book 100% without some form of acknowledgement or proper agreement with the original author. Besides if Cyprain plagiarised the book, we wouldn't be hearing about this case for the first time in 2016, a dispute would have been raised decades ago. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by leahcimzil: 8:52am On Jul 16, 2016 |
but Mr Cyprian is dead now, so who do we sue now?, or can he be sued post humously? |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by adexsimply(m): 8:53am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Morizo:LOL. I'm sorry, but this is pure a55-licking. It'd have sounded a bit reasonable if you had come up with a solid backup point. "He wouldn't have stooped so low.." is just your own opinion, you haven't met him and you didn't know him when he was alive. 4 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by fujirice: 9:00am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav:You spoke my mind. I wonder when plagiarism includes translation and not copying word to word. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Oluwalosheleyi(m): 9:13am On Jul 16, 2016 |
adioolayi:Later they will start comparing Daddy Wole Soyinka to others.#Istandwithexcellence #Istandagainstplagiarism. 4 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by fujirice: 9:15am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Paretomaster: Don't be narrow minded. Just because OP alleged something(without proof) and the setting of the book is in Hausa made the allegation true. Before you jump into conclusion, at least try and find out more about the author and his works. The passport of Mallam Ilia is set in Hausa land too 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by emonkey(m): 9:16am On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh: [size=14pt]Who published Jiki Magayi and what were the terms of his publishing agreement ? This is what should be your focus and not who wrote what ? Publishing terms are never always the same. 1. If the original writer sold it outright to the publisher , the publisher can assign another writer to write the translation or rewrite the book without giving any credit or money to the original writer. I have previously sold two books to a foreign writer under this sort of agreement with full understanding of the consequences. 2. Have you ever asked who John Tafida Umaru is/was ? The person may not exist and might have just been created by the publisher for the purpose of localising the book. Does he/she have any other literary credit apart from this book ? 3. Was Jiki Magayi still in copyright when Ekwensi did the translation? Copyright typically expires 50 years after the death of the author, if not renewed, Check the facts properly . Don't criticise unduly. Most of Wole Soyinka's plays are not original by the way. They are brilliant adaptations of nearly forgotten classics . His plays were good and became famous, made him famous. They were not original in any case and the families of Greek authors who have been dead for centuries are not looking all over for the Nobel Laureate to sue,[/size] 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Pillyportions(f): 9:16am On Jul 16, 2016 |
He should go to Amadioha , he will link him up to Ekwensi SIRTee15: |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Ice007(m): 9:16am On Jul 16, 2016 |
CoCoLav: Sure, you can translate Shakespeare's work and nobody will come after you cuz of the statutory limits but if you try that with a living author's work, you could be sued. For more details; http://bookwormtranslations.com/copyright-law-and-translation-what-you-need-to-know/ 3 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Pillyportions(f): 9:17am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Then He should consult Amadioha , he will link him up to Ekwensi SIRTee15: |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by fujirice: 9:22am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Redoil:I read that book in my JS 1. You need to see the excitement and quietness my classroom experiences during the time my English teacher reads that novel to my class. Given that my class is always noisy, it's only the passport of Mallam Ilia that restores sanity to my class then as everybody listens with rapt attention. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Angelsss(f): 9:26am On Jul 16, 2016 |
am guessing you really believed Mr Ekwensi did this based on the part of Nigeria he comes from... because he is IBO...you are strongly convinced such a writer would do that... but you don't know that for a fact... you weren't there when the book was published... so you don't know the circumstances surrounding it... what if he took permission before? that's if he actually did this... and why are just hearing it after so many years? Stop this! stereotyping ain't healthy... We should all support one another instead of trying to divide this country with malicious lies... 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Chrisx1x(m): 9:26am On Jul 16, 2016 |
perojelly:cyprian died some years ago abi na him grave you wan serve court paper? |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by shizzle11(m): 9:33am On Jul 16, 2016 |
Bluetooth2:You are a disgraceful yolowba pig, hatred and envy will not allow you reason outside your butt hole. Your attempt to discredit Emeagwali is DOA and can NEVER fly, unless of course to envious and mischievous fellows like the baboons who liked your comment and the yolowba writer who attempted to discredit Emeagwali what about translation works by Ola rotimi, wole Soyinka etal? so they are plagiarism too? Why not contact your apc lawyer Femi falana to sue Ekwensi? shameless doofus 3 Likes |
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