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Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:00pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
nwaanambra1:That's a bloody lie! If you 'adapt' someone's work the least you could do is to state it clear that you 'adapted' from so so and so. At least it should be acknowledged in preface, forward or reviews. Go and check the stand of the law on translation plagiarism. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:06pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
kings009:It's the understanding that they had that we as the readers want to know, and I guess they both owe us that. What is the shame in acknowledging you translated a book? that in itself is commendable. Chinua Achebe refused to allow 50cent use his book title as the former's movie title even at a price of $1million! There's pride in literature, something invaluable. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:14pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Paretomaster:Really please can you share who does that to my favorite book of all time? |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Caveatemptor(m): 12:19pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
This is a lesson to all young aspiring writers out there-protect your copyright. Do not because you want to be a writer at all cost,endanger the copyright of your intellectual property. The case of Jack Kirby and Stan Lee over who created the fictional Marvel comic super hero Captain America springs to mind. Kirby was the artist who created the Captain America super hero and took the art work to his publisher Stan Lee who diddled a few extra ideas on the art work and published the comics of Captain America as a joint creation of Stan Lee and Jack Kirby. Years later Kirby was to die in penury. Suddenly all the big film studios were doing super hero films and the Captain America franchise was raking in money. Stan Lee who was still alive and had little to do with the creation of the comic strip is raking in millions of dollars for being smarter than Kirby and making himself a co creator. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:22pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
obailala:Thank you sir! It's same way some people question a five star army General had a secondary school certificate. It's highly unlikely and doubtful, but not impossible. The book did not carry any trace of reference to Joh Tafida Umaru, nor did further reviews about the book. What we are asking is. 1. If he had obtained permission to translate and sell the book the least he'd do was to acknowledge the original authors.. 2. Not doing that at all amounts to plagiarism, or at least makes it appear to the world so. That is assuming he had the permission and kept it a secrect. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:29pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
fujirice:Oga what more proof do you need? Both books are available in the market. Get them and compare. The fact that they were written 33years apart shall tell you who plagiarized who. BTW the debate is not whether he copied, it's whether he obtained permission or not. Which we can't find any evidence that he did, even if he did, it's mandatory he acknowledge the original author even on the cover page. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:33pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Angelsss:Nobody is talking about his tribe here Madam. I didn't even know he was Igbo till I started researching about him. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by murtalaa(m): 12:38pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh:in fairness, the author of "magana jari ce", Abubakar Imam, derived most of his stories from an arabic book(whose author is unknown) called "Alfu Laila wa Laila". But Abubakar Imam was magnanimous enough to state it in many instances throughout the book. 1 Like |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by CoCoLav(f): 12:39pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
adexsimply: Nope, Shakespeare's work is now in the public domain so I can get away with it. In this instance it actually depends on when the original author wrote that piece and when Cyprain translated it. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by CoCoLav(f): 12:43pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
babadee1: Yes it's kind of wrong if I was not assigned rights but I will still have copyright in my translated work. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:43pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
nonjebose:It was verbatim! 100% In fact some words he couldn't translate he left them in their Hausa form. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:48pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Okudiover:Please can you give more info about what you heard that time? |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 12:57pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Nickydrake:Thank you sir. Some are even insinuating that I created the thread just to tarnish his igbo image. That's an insult to knowledge and rule of law. 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 1:05pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
murtalaa:OK Thanks I was aware of Alfu -Laila. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by einsteine(m): 1:09pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
[quote author=adaweezy post=47587858][/quote] Educate yourself on copyright laws. You don't need the permission of Shakespeare estate. Copyright has a fixed term, the maximum is 70 years after the author's death. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by fujirice: 1:19pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Redoil:FGC Enugu. 2001. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by fujirice: 1:23pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh:Lol! I am not the one making the accusations or believing the accusations. It's obvious you have concluded in your mind that he plagiarized with the way you are sounding. So it's up to you to prove it. Okpari! |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by murtalaa(m): 1:25pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh:why then would you be interested in who lifted from Magana jari ce since it could be argued that it was lifted from alfu Laila (which is not copyrighted) not magana jari ce. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 1:37pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
murtalaa:Your right, it could be no harm done if both lift from alfu Laila or any other uncopyrighted material. But I guess the first person to copyright it owns it, no matter the original source. I stand to be corrected though. Check my post on the page 0. I have updated a vital information. thanks. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by adexsimply(m): 1:44pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh:I don't know why some find this difficult to grasp. If anyone types "in the forest of olodumare" on Google, the prominent author name is D.O Fagunwa, despite the fact that it was translated by Wole Soyinka. Soyinka referenced and acknowledged his source which Cyprian failed to do, yet they're screaming trash. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Cetona(f): 1:55pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
murtalaa:Now I am confused, the Op said CE might have copied 'Jiki Magayi' not 'Magana Jari ce'. Why are you talking about Magana Jari ce? |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 2:02pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
adexsimply:Thank you. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 2:04pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Cetona:Sorry dear we drailled a little. Magana Jari ce is another topic, CE has nothing to do with it. BTW did you know that CE was actually sued back then in the 60s about this same topic? check my updated post on page 0. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Nickydrake(m): 2:04pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
ideykwum: Thank you for giving a level-headed response. I agree that the author of that article had no reason to assert plagiarism as strongly as he did, especially as he does not appear to have taken too much trouble to verify his suspicion. His conclusion that no permission was given was based on the absence of any acknowledgement in the preface or foreword of Ekwensi's book. This is rather shallow. Indeed much of the article is composed of unscholarly diatribe, which is condemnable and may justify those who perceive the accusation as the bitter fruit of ethnic bigotry. Nevertheless, I think that the literary scene is quite different from the political theatre, in that an author (or his memory, as in this case) is not likely to be injured by mistaken allegations of plagiarism, especially if those allegations are successfully refuted. Whatever the motivations of the writer and despite the crassness of his approach, I think that the allegations made are sufficient to merit an enquiry and explanation. Jiki Magayi may have been written in 1933 when Ekwensi was only twelve, but it wasn't until 1955 that it was published. An African Night's Entertainment was published a mere seven years later, so the copyright in the older work was still sitting pretty. This means that it was necessary to obtain permission from the holder of copyright before executing a translation. Was this done or was it not? This is a question of fact. Cyprian Ekwensi may not have much to say about this at present, given that he is, you know, dead; but the publishers of An African Night's Entertainment are in a position to provide much-needed answers, whether in the court of public opinion or the one of law. Finally, I think that questioning the originality of a work in good faith is in fact an effort at building the literary culture of the nation, even if the reputation of the person being questioned suffers, which, at any rate, will only happen in the event that he is guilty. 5 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Nickydrake(m): 2:31pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh: I have read your modified post. Very interesting information. I suppose we'll see how it plays out. 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by AlPeter: 2:32pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Nickydrake:after faithfully going through the entire comments you sir, are the first to give a constructive and intelligent criticism o the write up. I am getting sick and tired of people playing the tribe and ethnicity card. 2 Likes |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by lizbenpetgold: 3:29pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
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Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by nwaanambra1(m): 3:57pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh: well your people dropped the case after feeling that the millions of igbos killed in the civil war is enough recompense for Cyprians copy right infringement. the speed northers use to attack any issues relating to north is so amazing! if only you guys can also use the same speed to sort various issues bedeviling Nigeria - after all, you guys own Nigeria stock, lock and barrel! |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Sparkle777(f): 4:30pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh: I do get u, but I need to know if this issue applies to his other Hausa novels.ie Passport of Mallam Ilia, Burning Grass, Anthills of the Savannah etc. If this was an isolated case then I ll sleep well. I just dont want my image of Cyprian Ekwensi to be dented. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by EazyMoh(m): 4:43pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Sparkle777:Lol as far as I know this is the only case. I suspect he had a good intention when he translated it, but might have been convinced to ignore the original writer by the publishers since he was a nobody. Have a good day. |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by shizzle11(m): 4:49pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
Angelsss:lol....his confidence is from his expectation of fellow anti-igbo to swamp on the thread to bash igbo. Don't forget that any news where the heading/topic hase Igbo name or SE, sells like akara oku |
Re: Cyprian Ekwensi Plagiarized Hausa Story "Jiki Magayi" by Sparkle777(f): 6:33pm On Jul 16, 2016 |
EazyMoh: Thanks a lot, u ve been very patient and kind about this issue. 1 Like |
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