oneolajire:


Whaoooo, you know as much as this about Jesus, that means you are close to knowing him more intimately and how much love He has for you.

He is the only one who destroys the wickedness of cultists, illuminaties, ritualists territorial demons, and all evil powers (all these dread the name of Jesus)

He is the one that can only be clearly understood by teaching one whom He is, when one really wants to know him, because he can never be known by mere human wisdom and understanding.

He is the one that has come to make us know what this world is all about, what will happen to the world and what will happen to people when the world is no more.

He is the most controversial person by all those who want to learn about him with their natural senses, and form false religious beliefs. This is because He teaches spiritual and heavenly things, so He Himself imparts the spiritual knowledge to those who wants to be freed from controversies.

He is the most loving being. Who taught us how to live in love and impart his love to us. He is the most interesting being when you eventually know Him.

Jesus is the one who made us to know that we are in a spiritual world. He made us to know that there are divine guidelines and rules to live on earth, and whoever does not abide by it commits sin. Remember there are guidelines and manuals for all our appliances while we also have laws in states and countries. He is the one who can empower us to live in this world by living according to His instructions.

Ranchhoddas:
Great. Let's start from Genesis. Why do animals experience birth pangs?

hopefulLandlord:



Sounds more like a rant

oneolajire:


Genesis means beginning, or do you mean the Bible's Genesis? Anyway, I believe a vet doctor can provide a good answer to that. I don't see how laying of egg of chicken got to do with this topic.

Ranchhoddas:
Not just laying of eggs. Mammals (eg goats, cows) experience labours pains. According to the Bible, humans females go through this because Eve disobeyed God and and got cursed. Does this curse also apply to mammals?

hopefulLandlord:


Hehehehehehe

He's dodging

Ranchhoddas:
Not just laying of eggs. Mammals (eg goats, cows) experience labours pains. According to the Bible, humans females go through this because Eve disobeyed God and and got cursed. Does this curse also apply to mammals?

lordnicklaus:
I wonder who still uses the evolution theory apart from NL atheists...

oneolajire:


Wonderful, to know you read the bible to know that God cursed woman to have painful childbirth. It would have been lovely for you to read through and know if animals shared in the curse.

Find out the size of birth canal and compare it with the size of the baby to be born and see what causes delivery pains.

No animal complains of labour and delivery so I don't see the need dor your question

Embrace God's love, and you'll be a new man

lordnicklaus:
I wonder who still uses the evolution theory apart from NL atheists...

oneolajire:


The so-called Jesus believer's who believes in evolution theory has been deceived. Deception is contagious. A true follower of Jesus knows that evolution theory is a scam originated by the devil.

SirWere:
Evolutionary biologists, Molecular biologists, Agricultural entrepreneurs; Pharmacists, Biochemists, drug companies et cetera et cetera.

Bro, Evolution does not disprove your rosy "God factor".


I don't wanna start mentioning theists who has considerably enriched evolution.






And wisen up, your moniker is much too cool for you to be talking dumb!

oneolajire:

Meaning what?

lordnicklaus:

Lolz just asking. Cos it's been awhile since I heard that theory.

Ranchhoddas:
Not just laying of eggs. Mammals (eg goats, cows) experience labours pains. According to the Bible, humans females go through this because Eve disobeyed God and and got cursed. Does this curse also apply to mammals?

solutionsnow:


Funny. Has any animal complained to you of labour stress?

Ranchhoddas:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2012/09/animals_giving_birth_dolphins_bear_newborns_easily_but_hyenas_risk_death_.html

solutionsnow:


Anyone can write anything to support himself.

Help the animal have lesser birthpains if you can.

The report does not discredit God as the source of creation.

Pointless point, useless excuse for hating God

Ranchhoddas:
The link was not to discredit God. It was to show you that many animals experience labour pains. We know why humans experience it (disobedience), the question is why animals also experience it. Were they also disobedient?

solutionsnow:


Guy, you have been answered.

You ought to ask why do animals also die, were they also disobedient?

Ranchhoddas:
Since you do not agree that animals go through labour pains, let's move on to the next shall we?......Labour pains in humans are the result of the curse right? Is it a given that every woman who gives birth must pass through this curse-induced pain?

Ranchhoddas:
Since you do not agree that animals go through labour pains, let's move on to the next shall we?......Labour pains in humans are the result of the curse right? Is it a given that every woman who gives birth must pass through this curse-induced pain?

solutionsnow:


You don't know why animals experience labour pains. Go through the link you shared and read again

solutionsnow:


You don't know why animals experience labour pains. Go through the link you shared and read again

Besides, seems you did not read my main thread as you didn't dispute any of the points mentioned

Ranchhoddas:
The reasons given are purely biological, same thing for humans. It is you and your Bible that claim that it is as a result of a curse in the Garden of Eden. That is what I want us to discuss.