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Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 12:31pm On Jul 27, 2016
Standing5:
Always avoiding one question and giving a dull answer to the other. Were the fulani men forced to serve the consumers at a cheap rate or for free? You answers have been weak so far.
The fulanis are neither complaining.infact,they are happy rendering such services to the nation and deserves respect.All they are asking for is free access to nature given grasses to feed their animals and maintain the current low price than is obtainable in other worlds.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 12:35pm On Jul 27, 2016
Standing5:
killed and robbed by who exactly? The farmers?
Anyone from the community.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 12:40pm On Jul 27, 2016
Jakumo:


In the United States of America, government owned land is managed under the jurisdiction of the BLM ( Bureau of Land Management ). To the best of my limited knowledge about Nigeria, the vast majority of state-owned land happens to be located in the NORTH of the country, such that even if government-owned land is to be handed free of charge to cattle farmers through the back door, 99% of that exercise will only occur in the north of Nigeria, from where these famine inducing cattle herds originate in the first place.
We are talking of lush vegetations ideal for raising healthy robust cows which can only be found away from the north.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Standing5(m): 12:42pm On Jul 27, 2016
Almajiri1:

The fulanis are neither complaining.infact,they are happy rendering such services to the nation and deserves respect.All they are asking for is free access to nature given grasses to feed their animals and maintain the current low price than is obtainable in other worlds.
Since when has corn, millet, vegetable become grass? You talk like the farmers are just growing crops for the sake of growing.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by PaulJohn1: 12:43pm On Jul 27, 2016
@Jakumo, as reasonable as your suggestion of ending the farmers-herdsmen menace sounds, the situation on ground has passed respecting herdsmen by making them to comfortably find another means of feeding their cows after they might have realized the farm crops and greens are less attractive to their cows, based on the method you recommended.

Nothing supersedes massive loss on their side which means a great death of their cows without any confrontation, since the presidency who controls the armed forced is backing them.
As suggested not long ago by a member of this forum: that farmers poison what they've planted. No doubt it's a sacrifice on the farmers' part, which I think worth taking to guarantee their future as farmers.
If there is a record of up to 15K death of cows in each state of southern Nigeria let's say in a week, their (herdsmen) sense of reasoning as human should come alive.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Standing5(m): 12:47pm On Jul 27, 2016
Almajiri1:

Anyone from the community.
which community? Why do we have police? That's an unaceptable excuse. Even if true what prompted it. You mean the herdsmen who leave north and go to south with rifles are the victims. Please cook up another one.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 12:52pm On Jul 27, 2016
Standing5:
Since when has corn, millet, vegetable become grass? You talk like the farmers are just growing crops for the sake of growing.
I'm talking of nature's free grass.If the cows venture beyond their boundaries and accidentally stampede or graze on farmlands,In some communities with working understanding between the herders,penalties are paid.

Some fulanis are known to pay like two to three cows yearly for access to graze on the community common properties.Fulanis are also known to ne scammed in this process.Fulanis and the host communities can live in peace once there's understanding and trust from both parties.This is an easy thing to solve if we had the right leaders.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 12:54pm On Jul 27, 2016
Standing5:
which community? Why do we have police? That's an unaceptable excuse. Even if true what prompted it. You mean the herdsmen who leave north and go to south with rifles are the victims. Please cook up another one.
most herdsmen live and interact with the host communities while some live not too far away.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by BlackBaron: 12:55pm On Jul 27, 2016
Jakumo:
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Tomatoes, cabbages, pumpkin, green leaves amongst others are popular with Nigerian cuisine. Bit arbitary and I would not feel comfortable if I knew my beans or corns even though encased were previously sprayed with dung.

There's no such thing as free nor do the herdmen owe any grassland or are entitled to pass through if the owners no longer feel comfortable. A very robust refusal and passing of state laws should be used and anyone flouting the law can consider themselves to blame.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Standing5(m): 1:03pm On Jul 27, 2016
Almajiri1:

I'm talking of nature's free grass.If the cows venture beyond their boundaries and accidentally stampede or graze on farmlands,In some communities with working understanding between the herders,penalties are paid.

Some fulanis are known to pay like two to three cows yearly for access to graze on the community common properties.Fulanis are also known to ne scammed in this process.Fulanis and the host communities can live in peace once there's understanding and trust from both parties.This is an easy thing to solve if we had the right leaders.
Keep regurgitating your weak lines. Communities are being wiped out every other month. Where are the fulani casualties. Are fulanis the only rearers of cattles?
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 1:09pm On Jul 27, 2016
Standing5:
Keep regurgitating your weak lines. Communities are being wiped out every other month. Where are the fulani casualties. Are fulanis the only rearers of cattles?
Has the fulanis and host communities not been having healthy interactions up until recently?Why the sudden escalation?why is the government not holding the registered fulani herdsmen accountable?Are these people really the fulanis that has lived and interacted with their host communities for long and even inter married?
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Standing5(m): 1:17pm On Jul 27, 2016
Almajiri1:

Has the fulanis and host communities not been having healthy interactions up until recently?Why the sudden escalation?why is the government not holding the registered fulani herdsmen accountable?Are these people really the fulanis that has lived and interacted with their host communities for long and even inter married?
how recent is that? Stop banking on ignorance. Fulani-farmer conflict is centuries old
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Almajiri1: 1:30pm On Jul 27, 2016
Standing5:
how recent is that? Stop banking on ignorance. Fulani-farmer conflict is centuries old
From 2010-2013,it's on record that only 80 people were killed from both sides in the infractions between Fulani herdsmen and farmers.

From 2014 to now,why has there been an escalation never witnessed in the history of interactions between the herdsmen and farmers?
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Jakumo(m): 1:32pm On Jul 27, 2016
PaulJohn1:


As suggested not long ago by a member of this forum: that farmers poison what they've planted. No doubt it's a sacrifice on the farmers' part, which I think worth taking to guarantee their future as farmers.

If there is a record of up to 15K death of cows in each state of southern Nigeria let's say in a week, their (herdsmen) sense of reasoning as human should come alive.

Poisoning of cows, or ambushing cattle herdsmen, will only result in the kind of ongoing bloodbath that is now endemic to Nigeria's Middle Belt Benue State. Killing crop damaging cows must NEVER be considered a viable option to address crop damage disputes, for the simple reason that the Fulani herdsman regards the life of ONE cow to be far more precious than the lives of 100 non-believers, and will exact his carefully planned revenge on that basis.

Retaliation for the deliberate killing of a cow or a herdsmen, as seen in many parts of Nigeria TODAY, involves the the armed wing of the Fulani cattle cartel being notified to mobilize for a nocturnal cleansing operation. The marauders typically wait until the dead of night to invade ALL inhabited locations within the vicinity of the farmland where that cow or herder was killed, burn down every standing structure, and subject all who flee those burning buildings to withering machine-gun fire until nothing remains alive. This is the reality faced by the people of agrarian Benue State TODAY, and this fate is what one would risk, ANYWHERE in Nigeria today, by crossing that thin line into criminality against a Fulani cow .

Poisoning of crops would also be a disastrous path to take simply because such deadly crop harvests WOULD be diverted to the market for human consumption by criminal elements, despite their being fully aware that such crops had been deliberately tainted with toxins. Criminals care only about money, at ANY cost, so the poison meant for cattle would wind up wiping out people by the score.

The simple and cheap expedient of spraying valuable crops with essence of cow dung is by far the most equitable, non-confrontational and highly effective compromise for to all parties involved, especially in a situation where reporting crop damage to the police in Nigeria is no longer an option, given the political equation in effect during this particular juncture of African history.

In layman's terms, it just makes sense NOT to puck with the property and WANDERING RIGHTS of any person or group backed by the might of a federal army. Therefore, taking bitter lessons from the unfolding Fulani-perpetrated genocide of Benue State farmers, the wise farmer would do well to try my stealth preventive measure, and keep the cows at bay as would a true gentleman who is in no hurry to meet his maker.

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Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Jakumo(m): 10:29pm On Jul 29, 2016
Chai ! Diariz God o. All these corn farm the cows are sharing. America go know, so far na only you wakka come.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by uboma(m): 5:06am On Aug 30, 2016
Almajiri1:
I submit that the only permanent solution to this little misunderstanding between the herders and consumers,is for the consumers to prepare grazing corridors as a green carpet reception across the length and breadth of Nigeria as a sign of Respect for the unsang patriotic fulani herdsmen who has been feeding this nation with endless supply of meat.



This post is insensitive and capable of inciting hatred.....
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by uboma(m): 5:13am On Aug 30, 2016
BlackBaron:
An outright ban on nomadic grazing is better than spraying foods that would probably be consumed by humans with cow faeces.

Let all the states concerned overtly refuse and pass laws in that regard. Like I said countless times, nothing also stops Southerners from ranch farming. If done well, the level of competition would probably drive hersmen into more sustainable business practices lest they lose their source of livelihood.



there is no harm to human life when crops sprayed with cow dung are properly washed and well cooked before consumption. In fact these cow dung also serves as manure to the crops and will improve yield greatly.

This thread is worthy to featured on the front page.....

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Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Jakumo(m): 5:49am On Aug 30, 2016
uboma:




there is no harm to human life when crops sprayed with cow dung are properly washed and we'll cooked before consumption. In fact these cow dung also serves as manure to the cows and will improve yield greatly.

This thread is worthy to featured on the front page.....

Thank you for this response, Uboma. If this simple deterrent of spraying crops with cow dung solution is adopted by farmers nationwide, the number of violent clashes between farmers and cattle grazing marauders will decline dramatically.

The simple idea of spraying the leaves of crops with cow dung soup was first explained to me by a Fulani man, who grew up as a cattle herder, and the least I can do, in furtherance of my own modest effort to save farmer's lives, is to share this inexpensive and highly effective idea with as many readers as possible, online.

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Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by nduchucks: 6:43am On Aug 30, 2016
OP is very satisfied with the government acquiring land across the length and breath of Nigeria to build roads and highways. To the OP that is not land grabbing because he benefits from the arrangement.

He is now opposed to government acquisition of land to create the so-called grazing corridor because he is not a herdsman, although he eats their meat and dairy products. What a hypocrite!

The OP's proposed solution is bereft of common sense and dumb.
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Yujin(m): 8:21am On Aug 30, 2016
I've never seen a weak minded people like the people of southern and middle belt of Nigeria. Just one tribe is giving you all a run for your money. In the history of all nations, these group of people have never resisted any oppressive policy directed at them. Not even one. Abacha the tyrant was not removed by them. No single coup of theirs was ever successful. Today, their people are being killed and their lands taken before their own eyes yet they sit and watch like sculptures. Tell me: what stops all southern governors from holding a meeting with this herdsmen terrorism as the main agenda and there in unison agree on a punishment for any crop destroyed by the herdsmen? Since it has been proven that those cattle saddled harbingers of death enjoy the blessings of the C-inC, then a strong message should be sent to the office of the presidency from all quarters. We mustn't leave the battle to the legislative arm alone to handle. Our executive governors should join forces to together and fight it. The civilians have been protesting for long with all efforts falling on deaf ears. The Christian association of Nigeria whose members have been the worst hit so far should brace up too galvanize Christians to build a common front and resist all policies aimed at strangulating them. This is also and opportunity for the middle belt states to form a bond with the south for their better survival. Let us for once put a stop to the wicked policy of an oppressor.
@topic, Jakumo your suggestion though logical could only at best serve for small farms and for those closer to where the farmer resides. The situation at hand is beyond this honest suggestion. Thanks any way.

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Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by Kelechi2020(m): 8:36am On Aug 30, 2016
This thread is too hot to be on front page.... lalastica you know what I mean..
Re: The Menace Of Crop-Destroying Cattle, And The PEACEFUL Way Forward by uboma(m): 11:05am On Aug 30, 2016
Jakumo:


Thank you for this response, Uboma. If this simple deterrent of spraying crops with cow dung solution is adopted by farmers nationwide, the number of violent clashes between farmers and cattle grazing marauders will decline dramatically.

The simple idea of spraying the leaves of crops with cow dung soup was first explained to me by a Fulani man, who grew up as a cattle herder, and the least I can do, in furtherance of my own modest effort to save farmer's lives, is to share this inexpensive and highly effective idea with as many readers as possible, online.


I totally agree with you.

What you proposed in your initial post on this thread if implemented will go a long way to reduce the Fulani/Farmers attack.
At least this can serve as a temporary measure pending when a more permanent solution to the lingering crises is adopted.

Where is lalasticlala?
Front page please.....

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