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What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:57am On Aug 10, 2016
"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking" (Matthew 6:7).

What does it mean to use vain repetitions in prayer? Is repeating a prayer a vain repetition?
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by Scholar8200(m): 1:42pm On Aug 10, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking" (Matthew 6:7).
There lies there problem! They try to 'buy' the blessing by a long prayer by rote and not by heart!Jacob wrestled with the Angel all night; Jesus prayed all night to God; the early Church prayed until Peter was out etc The difference? They sought God as a Vital Necessity, a seeking God because of utter helplessness and there was no other option available.



What does it mean to use vain repetitions in prayer?

]But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions,as the heathen do: forthey think that they shall be heard for their much speaking(Matthew 6:7)

It means to make use of timed chants like the following:

1.But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of [size=16pt]two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians[/size].
Acts 19:24

or

2. 26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.
1 Kings 18:26

Prayer that does not involve the whole person, desire, heart but a lengthy, recital that expects to be worthy after a long session!




Is repeating a prayer a vain repetition?
No! Not all repetitions are vain, it may be importunity (re-petitioning as an expression of desire and faith); however, a repetition/prayer becomes vain if I mean to display its length before people(present or absent) for vain-glory and / or seek to impress men or God therewith.

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Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:16am On Aug 11, 2016
Scholar8200:


There lies there problem! They try to 'buy' the blessing by a long prayer by rote and not by heart!Jacob wrestled with the Angel all night; Jesus prayed all night to God; the early Church prayed until Peter was out etc The difference? They sought God as a Vital Necessity, a seeking God because of utter helplessness and there was no other option available.



]But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions,as the heathen do: forthey think that they shall be heard for their much speaking(Matthew 6:7)

It means to make use of timed chants like the following:

1.But when they knew that he was a Jew, all with one voice about the space of [size=16pt]two hours cried out, Great is Diana of the Ephesians[/size].
Acts 19:24

or

2. 26 And they took the bullock which was given them, and they dressed it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even until noon, saying, O Baal, hear us. But there was no voice, nor any that answered. And they leaped upon the altar which was made.
1 Kings 18:26

Prayer that does not involve the whole person, desire, heart but a lengthy, recital that expects to be worthy after a long session!



No! Not all repetitions are vain, it may be importunity (re-petitioning as an expression of desire and faith); however, a repetition/prayer becomes vain if I mean to display its length before people(present or absent) for vain-glory and / or seek to impress men or God therewith.

Thank you my brother and may God richly bless you. smiley
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by Scholar8200(m): 10:46am On Aug 11, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Thank you my brother and may God richly bless you. smiley
Amen!
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by Boomboost(m): 1:06pm On Aug 11, 2016
I've never really understood this portion...How about praying loudly in a face me I face you apartment. When should we pray considering other people sleeping?
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:45am On Aug 15, 2016
Boomboost:


I've never really understood this portion...How about praying loudly in a face me I face you apartment. When should we pray considering other people sleeping?

Good question. cool
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by Scholar8200(m): 12:10pm On Aug 15, 2016
Boomboost:
I've never really understood this portion...How about praying loudly in a face me I face you apartment. When should we pray considering other people sleeping?
You can do what Hannah did. Pray silently but fervently! Praying loudly appears to share the same self-advertising purpose as those Jesus denounced only in this case , "that they may be heard by men".
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:01am On Aug 16, 2016
Scholar8200:


You can do what Hannah did. Pray silently but fervently! Praying loudly appears to share the same self-advertising purpose as those Jesus denounced only in this case , "that they may be heard by men".

Way to go! smiley

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Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:40pm On Aug 28, 2016
OLAADEGBU:
"But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking" (Matthew 6:7).

What does it mean to use vain repetitions in prayer? Is repeating a prayer a vain repetition?

Suggested answer:

http://www.gotquestions.org/vain-repetitions.html
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:04pm On Sep 01, 2016
OLAADEGBU:


Suggested answer:

http://www.gotquestions.org/vain-repetitions.html

Question: "What does it mean to use vain repetitions in prayer?"

Answer: Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount, "When ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking" (Matthew 6:7, KJV). The word vain means "empty" or "useless"; so Jesus is warning us that repeating worthless phrases in our prayers will not help them be heard by God. Our Heavenly Father is not concerned with word count, flowery expressions, or mantras; He desires "truth in the inward being" (Psalm 51:6, ESV).

"Use not vain repetitions" is the King James translation of Matthew 6:7. Other translations say, "Do not use meaningless repetition" (NASB), "Do not heap up empty phrases" (ESV), or "Do not keep on babbling" (NIV). As Jesus points out, the use of repetitious words or formulaic phrases is a "heathen" or "pagan" practice and should not be part of Christian prayer. Our prayers should be more like the short, simple prayer of Elijah on Mt. Carmel and less like the prolonged, repetitious prayers of the prophets of Baal (see 1 Kings 18:25–39).

When we are praying, we are talking with God and worshipping Him. It is like a conversation, from the heart. Many religions—including some branches of Christianity—have rote prayers that they advise repeating over and over again. Some churches even go so far as to require their members to recite a certain prayer a specific number of times in order to be absolved of sin. This is a throwback to paganism and superstition; such formulaic prayers are "vain repetitions" that have no place in the church. Jesus has already atoned for our sins once and for all (Hebrews 10:10), and we can approach the throne of grace boldly on the merit of Christ's sacrifice (Hebrews 4:15–16), not because of our "many words" (Matthew 6:7).

It's easy to be caught up in vain repetitions, repeating the same words in our prayers instead of thinking about our words or letting them come from the heart. We should be focused on God in prayer and honour Him in our hearts. In Isaiah 29:13, God says, "These people come near to me with their mouth and honour me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me."

Jesus' warning against vain repetitions means we should avoid vain or meaningless words and repetition in our prayers. Repeating things fills up time, but it does not prove our devotion or better our chances of God's hearing us. We should teach our children at an early age to pray in a natural, conversational manner, with reverence for the One they are addressing.

Being persistent in prayer is not the same as using vain repetitions. There is nothing wrong with praying for the same thing more than once (see 2 Corinthians 12:8.). After all, Jesus taught us that we should "always pray and not give up" (Luke 18:1). But it's understood that our prayers are from the heart, spontaneous, and honouring to God, not the repeating of words written by someone else.

The Bible teaches us to pray in faith (James 1:6), in direct address to God (Matthew 6:9), and in Jesus' name (John 14:13). We should offer our prayers with reverence and humility (Luke 18:13), with perseverance (Luke 18:1), and in submission to God's will (Matthew 6:10). The Bible teaches us to avoid prayers that are hypocritical, designed to be heard only by men (Matthew 6:5), or rely on vain repetitions (Matthew 6:7).
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by Nobody: 2:11pm On Sep 01, 2016
One of your ogas at the top said not marry a woman that can't pray for one hour (probably repeating the same things over and over). Lol. Maybe you should show this to him.
Re: What Does It Mean To Use Vain Repetitions In Prayer? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:43pm On Sep 03, 2016
AnonyNymous:


One of your ogas at the top said not marry a woman that can't pray for one hour (probably repeating the same things over and over). Lol. Maybe you should show this to him.

What did the 'oga at the top' mean when he/she said that? Can you explain? undecided

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