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Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by flamingREED(m): 6:45pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
Ngozi123: You're on your own o. We can convert those in power If we're serious For the common good, Just as God used Peter and Paul to convert Cornelius and Paulus. Philip also converted the Ethiopian eunuch. Luke wrote to the most excellent Theophilus. These they achieved because they were serious. But to tell me to go into politics, nah, sister. No disciple did it; no apostle encouraged it; Jesus ran away from it. |
Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by Nobody: 8:44pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
Ngozi123: Human beings are made of flesh and bones – They are not the same. Human beings require to eat – God does not require to eat, to survive – They are not the same. And this is testified by Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, himself in the Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 24, Verse No. 36 to 39. He says that… ‘Behold my hands and feet – Handle me and see, for a spirit has no flesh and bones.’ He says… ‘Behold my hands and feet – Handle me and see, for a spirit has no flesh and bones.’ And he gave his hands, and they saw, and they were overjoyed. And he said that… ‘Do you have any meat to eat ?’ And they gave him broiled fish and a piece of honeycomb – And he ate . To prove what? That he was God? To prove that he was not God. He ate, and he is flesh and bones – A spirit has got no flesh and bones. This proves that it is scientifically not possible that Father, son and Holy Ghost – Father, Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, and Holy Ghost, is Almighty God. "I can of my own self do nothing – As I hear, I judge and my judgement is just, for I seek not my own will, but the will of my Father.’ Anyone who says… ‘Not my will but God’s will’ – he is a Muslim. Muslim means the person who submits his’ will to almighty God. Jesus Christ peace be upon him said…‘Not my will but God’s will.’ He was a Muslim – and he was Alhamdulillah, one of the mightiest messengers of God. |
Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by Ngozi123(f): 9:25pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
flamingREED: If going into politics is what it takes to help as many people as possible then I believe that it is good, so long as you don't debase yourself. I personally am not interested in becoming a politician; I just enjoy having political debates with people. I'm actually more interested in humanitarian work irl and would rather do that than become an MP, for example. However, growing up in a politically literate household and speaking face to face with politicians over here, I've learnt that politicians can do a lot of good for a lot of people so it is important for righteous people to enter that field as many lives are at risk here. In the UK, for example, we have a party who couldn't care less about the poor and disabled and have decided to reduce the benefits they receive. If someone was to come in and introduce policies that would improve their lives, wouldn't that be classed as 'good'? |
Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by flamingREED(m): 10:05pm On Aug 27, 2016 |
Ngozi123: My data is low. Till Some Other Time. 1 Like |
Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by akinszz: 5:39am On Aug 28, 2016 |
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Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by Ngozi123(f): 9:46am On Aug 30, 2016 |
FriendChoice: Matthew 28:16-20 16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Your point about a spirit not being to eat is true but what you fail to acknowledge is that Jesus is both fully human and divine. This is the reason why God gave Him a human mother, so that he could be connected with us in such a way that He could perform the perfect sacrifice for us. Jesus said those things to his disciples to prove that He is alive and well, not just a spirit, as some of them thought. This wasn't done to prove that He wasn't God but to prove that He was God. Luke 24:25-26 25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: 26 Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? Luke 24:44 44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me. He did all of those things to prove to them that all of the prophecies concerning Him, the Messiah, Our Saviour, had come to pass. Read Daniel 9:26-27, Isaiah 53:1-3 and Zechariah 14:9 for some of the Messianic prophecies. Did you even read the entirety of the Luke 24? |
Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by Nobody: 3:15pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
Ngozi123: (17) They worshipped him—i.e., (fell prostrate at His feet. from commentary of Bible) Did David worship Saul when he prostrated his face down to the ground before him?Let's look at the following verses: 1 Samuel 24 7 With these words David rebuked his men and did not allow them to attack Saul. And Saul left the cave and went his way. 8 Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, "My lord the king! " When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground 2 Samuel 14:4 4 When the woman from Tekoa went to the king, she fell with her face to the ground to pay him honor and she said, "Help me, O king!" These shows they simply honor Jesus (Pbum) also. But if you still say no. I challenge you to provide a single an unambiguous, unequivocal statement in the complete Bible where Jesus (Pbum) himself said I am God worship me SECONDLY: Jesus is man and spirit. Bible says that God is not man ‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19) ‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9) Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible ‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40) ‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22) FINALLY: You write the verse bellow Luke 24:44 Luke 24:44 "This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms." Do you know believe to use the verses of old testament since it says " The law must be fulfilled Similarly: Mathew 5:16 New International Version "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. New Living Translation "Don't misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. Looking forward for your answers. |
Re: Reply To Those Who Say Islam Must Be Banned For Zamfara's Murder_ By Lord Kabex by Ngozi123(f): 10:08am On Aug 31, 2016 |
FriendChoice: There is a difference between simply prostrating for someone and worshipping them, hence the distinction in the Bible. I'm yet to see where it actually mentions someone worshipping another prophet without that prophet being punished, see Moses as a case study. I've already quoted this passage but I will do it again: Matthew 16:15-17 15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 'Christ' means Messiah, which means 'Saviour', therefore Peter is acknowledging that not only is Jesus our Saviour and Mighty Redeemer, but also the actual Son of God. He is both Son of man and Son of God. Notice how in the Bible, many prophets are referred to as the Son of man but none, not one is referred to as the 'Son of God'. This is why Christians say that He is both fully human and fully divine. SECONDLY: Jesus is man and spirit. Did you purposely skip the part where Jesus directly refers to the Holy Trinity? I will quote it again for you so you won't miss it: Matthew 28:19 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: This is actually what Jesus said so I ask you, why don't Muslims baptise themselves in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost? You can say whatever you like about this version or that version of the Bible. You can even say that Jesus was speaking metaphorically when He says that He is the Son of God. However, if that was the case then why would He ask his followers to baptise themselves in His name? Wouldn't that be blasphemy if He truly wasn't the Son of God? Why would you, as a Muslim, revere a supposedly blasphemous prophet? FINALLY: You write the verse bellow Luke 24:44 I'm not exactly sure on what you're trying to say with regards to the italicised but if it was something to the extent of "do you believe in the Old Testament" then my answer is "yes, I believe in both the Old and New Testaments", just like most Christians. My reason being for that passage that you've mentioned in Matthew 5:16. However, what you fail to realise is that Jesus Christ's Perfect Sacrifice, opened a new gateway for us. Prior to His crucifixion, people could not go up to Heaven. Even the prophets could not achieve such a feat as no man was without sin, hence, the prophet Elijah and the other prophets were waiting for Jesus in order to go up to Heaven once that sacrifice was made. This is why the Jews do not believe that people go to Heaven. In essence, the 'death' that is written in the Old Testament is not the same 'death' that is written in the New Testament. Death in the Old Testament refers mostly to physical death, however, death in the New Testament is to be condemned to Spiritual Death. I'm not sure if you've read the Bible much but this is what Jesus says before He goes to raise Lazarus from the dead: John 11:11 11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep. Note that he doesn't actually say that Lazarus has died. This is because there are two kinds of death: physical death and spiritual death. The Old Testament refers to the former mostly whilst the New Testament refers to the latter. This actually all stems from Adam and Eve in the Book of Genesis with regards to the Tree of Life. I could go on but I don't want my post to become a short dissertation. |
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