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Lost Christianity by Nobody: 1:03am On Aug 28, 2016
Is their a connection between the two messiah movements that arose in the first century; the one focused on a military messiah who would liberate the Jewish nation from the oppression it suffered under the Romans and the other focused on a spiritual messiah who would liberate humanity from the burden of its sins? Both had profound impacts. The militant opposition to Roman rule ultimately exploded into the largest national liberation struggle of the ancient world, the Jewish War and continued to reverberate with major and minor uprisings until the Bar Kochba uprising when the Jews were permanently expelled from their home-land.

At the same time we see that the spiritual movement, Christianity, gained control of the whole western world. Really there are only two possible answers to the question posed. The first is that the spiritual movement drew lessons and inspiration from the military movement, but transformed into something more “cosmopolitan”, “universal”and more “spiritual”. Or, at the very least, more “Hellenized”.

The second is that the typical personages of Christianity, John the Baptist, Jesus, Simon Peter, and ultimately James, were in fact leaders of the anti-Roman resistance, but that the record of their actual activities was mostly overwritten by those who ultimately defeated them, more specifically by the ideological representatives of those who defeated them.

Western civilization is largely a synthesis of Hellenic and Judaic cultures. This synthesis was generally viewed as an ideological event, a merger of elements of each culture to form Christianity, which then provided the intellectual and practical framework for Western development. But actually the synthesis took place by the most violent struggle, in which Rome defeated the Jewish rebellion, but in the course of doing so, was forced to incorporate many of its elements.

The profound ideological struggles of that era are really only partially refracted in The NT. We can carefully exhume the lost voice of the defeated rebellion, which, while it did leave some traces in the The New Testament, now speaks directly to us through the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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Re: Lost Christianity by IMASTEX: 1:38am On Aug 28, 2016
Hmm
Re: Lost Christianity by Nobody: 2:44am On Aug 28, 2016
Fascinating though it is we do not as yet need to consult the voices of the Dead Sea Scrolls, there are parallels to be drawn from the NT itself and contemporary history, for instance many biblical scholars recognize that the ideological conflict between James and Paul is the engine that drives the entire NT. But we can also demonstrate that this conflict is identical to the one between Jewish nationalists and the Roman-backed Herodian state, which erupted into the conflagration of the Jewish War over exactly the same issues debated by James and Paul.

In fact, while James and Paul were indeed well-recognized ideological leaders, we can uncover their integrated activities, which ranged between political and even military affairs. Paul, in particular, was a political/intelligence operative for the Herodian kings, a Saduccee henchman if you will, not only before his famous “conversion” on the road to Damascus, but long after his supposed conversion.

Initial insight into the James/Paul conflict can be gained by examining some familiar Bible stories, together with their parallel treatment in other sources.

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Re: Lost Christianity by ifenes(m): 9:10am On Aug 28, 2016
Today is the public display of peaceful and loving Christianity which has been severely reformed to captivate the minds of the slave. Ancient mysteries and stolen stories from around the globe being portrayed as Jewish history. Stories stolen from the dead sea scrolls were used to form different cult like the Moon Cult,Cult of Atone,Cult of Saturn etc.

Behind the masonic lodges hides the same "Brotherhood of the Snake," or Cult of Aton, that created Christianity (and its many denominations), that established the Vatican, and set its many popes, bishops, and priests in place. This same organization established the Illuminati, Rosicrucians, and Knights Templar that, in turn, control the world's myriad secret societies, fraternities, and charities.

There are two parts to Christianity. One for the slaves and the other for the master. Although both are usually termed light and darkness,both are only two sides to a coin. Funny how Christianity believe in Light and Darkness,God and Satan,Angels and demon. Too bad people fail to read books like the Dead sea scrolls and see how ancient and hijacked their religion is.

The flag of the European Union contains thirteen stars, twelve obvious stars and one invisible star that can be geometrically configured from the circle of twelve. As people in the know Freemason could detect that the Rockefeller family chose number 1313 as a street address to establish their organization called the “Council of State Governments” that would oversee state legislatures. Two times 13 equals 26 - the number of god. In Hebrew, Egyptian, and English, the letters of the word god total 26. In the Hebrew language, the letters of the word Jehovah (IHVH - 10, 5, 6, 5) come to 26. And as we know, Jehovah is Aton,and ancient deity of Egypt. Look it up!

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Re: Lost Christianity by ifenes(m): 9:28am On Aug 28, 2016
The birthday of Jesus was deliberately changed to December, because Churchmen desperately wanted to conceal the Egyptian (or Osirian) origins of their main religious traditions.

The present date for the birth of Jesus Christ - December 25 (Christmas) was actually that for John the Baptist, the radical preacher and rival of the Jerusalem Church. This is why January bears the name it does. Jan is Jon or John - literally the time of John. And January corresponds to the astrological sign of Aquarius, the "Water-Bearer" (the sign of Baptism).

The term or title Lucifer originally referred to the solar Christ who was, from an Egyptian perspective, born when the sun entered into the sign of Virgo. This action began the Egyptian New Year. The Egyptian New Year opened in the summer not winter. Look up the Dead Sea Scroll.

Now, a Christian is, in fact, a Luciferian. This fact is not altered one jot by the resistance and rebuttal of Christians. Christians, Muslims, and Jews, are worshippers of light, although most have never spent a minute of their lives thinking about light and exactly what its properties are.They do not need to think. They are believers and they have faith. And where there is faith there is often little reason or sanity.

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Re: Lost Christianity by Nobody: 9:34am On Aug 28, 2016
Shakespeare is here cheesy. Been a while.


This promises to be intresting.

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Re: Lost Christianity by Nobody: 2:23pm On Aug 28, 2016
This is not a religious treatise for the converted, if you accept the gospels as they are unquestioning then there is nothing to be gained from reading beyond this point, but for those who have had doubts and legitimate questions about some of the inherent inconsistencies in the NT accounts, suspect dating and placement of events and tough questions about diametrically opposed doctrines contained within the gospels, then my humble submissions may prove to be of some value. Here are a few questions I have found intriguing;

Why is the Gospel of Mark, even with the suspicious removal of “Secret Mark” so avowedly gnostic in nature as to be doctrinally opposed to say the Gospel of Luke? Why are there doctrinal contradictions observed between the Gospel of Matthew and the Book of Acts as well as between the Gospel of Luke and Acts (purportedly written by the same author!!)? Why is the doctrine and Christology of the Gospel of John, the most anti-semitic of all the Gospel writers and a mostly Hellenized account of the events of the life of Jesus so radically different to the accounts of the synoptics? And what exactly is the Book of Acts hiding by remaining silent on the last four years of the life of Paul, more pertinently why does the Book of Acts end abruptly in 62CE, the very year that James is murdered in what is the single most significant event in the history of the Christian Church?

Many biblical scholars accept the gospel accounts as recollections of oral traditions recorded through the immediate decades after the death of Jesus by pious disciples led by the “Holy Spirit” somewhat imperfectly, with minor omissions here and there, a few pious additions interpolated but nothing major, but all with the best of intentions of presenting the best possible fascia of logia. No doubt there were oral traditions, but the question is have these oral traditions found their way into the gospels or have they been usurped by a contrary agenda? I am persuaded otherwise, in my view, the gospel accounts were conscious and deliberate rewrites composed to form a corpus of documents to a pre-configured outcome. Knowing how the authors composed their writings tells us why. Gospel writers were not recording historical events, they were merely laying the written groundwork for the triumphancy of orthodoxy ……the key to deciphering the entire shebang is of course the Book of Acts.

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