Lucifer means the light bearer and in the book of Enoch in the bible Lucifer's fallen angels and Azazel teach early mankind to use tools and fire. Parallels can be drawn between Lucifer and the Greek god Prometheus who was punished by Zeus for giving primitive mortals the gift of divine fire which unleashed a flood of inventiveness, productivity and self awareness. Lucifer the "Light-Bearer," in defiance of Yahweh, brought self-awareness to Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden.

@Atheists
As you claim not to bleieve in God or the bible, why should it bother you what the bible says or whether lucifer is satan or the devil? Anyway as you are obviously unaware the book of enoch is not cannonized as part of the bible and the only place in the bible that lucifer was mentioned is in the book of Isaiah which says thus: 1.Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

If the whole chapter is read well in proper context, it seems the name lucifer was being used to refer to the king of Babylon and not the devil or satan as you rightly claimed earlier. The book of enoch is another very interesting account,, i ofte wonder why it was not cannonized as some of the stories there shed more light on other biblical stories especially the book of genesis.

KunleOshob:

@Atheists
As you claim not to bleieve in God or the bible, why should it bother you what the bible says or whether lucifer is satan or the devil? Anyway as you are obviously unaware the book of enoch is not cannonized as part of the bible and the only place in the bible that lucifer was mentioned is in the book of Isaiah which says thus: 1.Isaiah 14:12
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

If the whole chapter is read well in proper context, it seems the name lucifer was being used to refer to the king of Babylon and not the devil or satan as you rightly claimed earlier. The book of enoch is another very interesting account,, i ofte wonder why it was not cannonized as some of the stories there shed more light on other biblical stories especially the book of genesis.

This is so right.

Majority, if not practically the whole of Christianity believe that Lucifer is the devil(satan); but that isn't true.
Realizing the facts about these issues would help in putting a whole lot of stuff about the Christian faith in proper order.
That's why "study" is very important.

Defenders of Lucifer. What is the catch?

Easypizzy:

Defenders of Lucifer. What is the catch?

Stop being so predictable and go and read the bible very well.
Lucifer is not Satan.

Lucifer is a latin word that should not have been placed in the KJV bible since it(Old testament) was written in Hebrew.
It is not the name of anybody or personality.
It(son of the morning) was only used to refer the King of Babylon and never Satan.

Check other bible versions and u will not find the word Lucifer in that position but rather the true/proper word(s).

It was the king of Babylon who thought he could exalt his throne to the heavens; not Satan.

The point in all this is to let people know that satan was never a pure and beautiful angel from the beginning as is popularly taught, but an evil being from the very beginning.
He was created so by God for the purpose which he has been fulfilling and still is fulfilling.

John 8:44
(44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

@eazypizzy
Ain't know catch, have you read it in your bible or any credible source that lucifer=satan?

@Atheists
As you claim not to bleieve in God or the bible, why should it bother you what the bible says or whether lucifer is satan or the devil?

That is very true l don't believe in god or the bible that is why l interpret some of the stories in the bible as allegories especially the creation story in genesis. Overall l think that the bible talks a  lot of nonsense.

Defenders of Lucifer. What is the catch?

This is what happens when the only book you read in your life is the bible. You become so narrow minded, myopic and shallow

Atheists has finally opened up.

Imagine, some women will fall into the trap of these kind of guys thinking they're in a relationship with an atheist/freethinker/agnostic/whatever, not knowing its something deeper- namely satanism.

Lord have mercy.

Atheists has finally opened up.

Imagine, some women will fall into the trap of these kind of guys thinking they're in a relationship with an atheist/freethinker/agnostic/whatever, not knowing its something deeper- namely satanism.

Lord have mercy. Shocked Undecided

^^^These are the dangers posed by religious fundamentalism to intellectualism. FYI l don't believe in demons,spirits e.t.c l am a naturalist

@Poster: I hope you're sane
You are only confirming that Lucifer is the devil, if you call him lightbearer that one na ur own palava. Maybe they are decieving in you in one occult like that. He is just the devil because he disobeyed God and also caused man to disobey God too.

lightwalk:

@Poster: I hope you're sane
You are only confirming that Lucifer is the devil, if you call him lightbearer that one na your own palava. Maybe they are decieving in you in one occult like that. He is just the devil because he disobeyed God and also caused man to disobey God too.

Any Sciptural proof to support ur theory that Lucifer is Satan?

Pick up your Bible. I don't have time to preach to blocked minds
Maybe you need to start from Genesis,

lightwalk: @Poster: I hope you're sane
You are only confirming that Lucifer is the devil, if you call him lightbearer that one na ur own palava. Maybe they are decieving in you in one occult like that. He is just the devil because he disobeyed God and also caused man to disobey God too.

If the God of the Bible is God who/what can disobey Him?

ttalks:

Stop being so predictable and go and read the bible very well.
Lucifer is not Satan.

Lucifer is a latin word that should not have been placed in the KJV bible since it(Old testament) was written in Hebrew.
It is not the name of anybody or personality.
It(son of the morning) was only used to refer the King of Babylon and never Satan.

Check other bible versions and u will not find the word Lucifer in that position but rather the true/proper word(s).

It was the king of Babylon who thought he could exalt his throne to the heavens; not Satan.

The point in all this is to let people know that satan was never a pure and beautiful angel from the beginning as is popularly taught, but an evil being from the very beginning.
He was created so by God for the purpose which he has been fulfilling and still is fulfilling.

John 8:44
(44) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

so who is the father of satan?

I like the reference of Prometheus in relation to the devil. according to Genesis, Men were foolish, primitive beings but after eating/receiving the fruit/secrets of Fire they became more like gods, even God recognised that and got angry. eating that fruit was pretty much a blessing as it gave understanding and wisdom, which God didnt want for man.

lightwalk: @Poster: I hope you're sane
You are only confirming that Lucifer is the devil, if you call him lightbearer that one na ur own palava. Maybe they are decieving in you in one occult like that. He is just the devil because he disobeyed God and also caused man to disobey God too.

how did he cause man to disobey God? your man did that shit cus he wanted to deep down but just wanted a boost, kinda like waiting for someone to give him morale

Up lucifer! Like literally! PHCN is my light bringer at the moment.
Interesting points have been raised here. I just hope folks will see the light...No pun intended tho'

Lucifer is not a male spirit, she is a goddess..the sumerian know her as inana, the greeks know her as Aphrodite, the romans know her as Venus, The early Egyptian know her as Ishtar..the benin know her as olokun, she is the same spirit that incarnated under those names to those people..she is the LovePeddler in the book of revelation..Her father was ENlil or the devil..she wanted to take ENki position in the divine council..

ttalks:


This is so right.

Majority, if not practically the whole of Christianity believe that Lucifer is the devil(satan); but that isn't true.
Realizing the facts about these issues would help in putting a whole lot of stuff about the Christian faith in proper order.
That's why "study" is very important.

Lucifer was never an angel, she is a Goddess but not part of the Elohim..she is Venus or Aphrodite.she is also the LovePeddler of babylon riding the bull in the book of revelation..her father is the devil and her grand father is satan the destroyer..He was the one that sent the flood to destroy man..but their end is coming soon..