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Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 1:50pm On Sep 14, 2016
Trump Has 5-Point Lead in Bloomberg Poll of Battleground Ohio

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Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 5 percentage points in a Bloomberg Politics poll of Ohio, a gap that underscores the Democrat’s challenges in critical Rust Belt states after one of the roughest stretches of her campaign. The Republican nominee leads Clinton 48 percent to 43 percent among likely voters in a two-way contest and 44 percent to 39 percent when third-party candidates are included. The poll was taken Friday through Monday, as Clinton faced backlash for saying half of Trump supporters were a “basket of deplorables” and amid renewed concerns about her health after a video showed her stumbling as she left a Sept. 11 ceremony with what her campaign later said was a bout of pneumonia.

Trump’s performance in the poll—including strength among men, independents, and union households—is better than in other recent surveys of the state. It deals a blow to Clinton after she enjoyed polling advantages nationally and in most battleground states in August before the race tightened in September as more Republican voters unified around Trump. Read the questions and methodology for the poll in Ohio, a state that has backed the winning presidential candidate in every election since 1964, here.

“I’m tired of career politicians being in office and nothing’s ever changed,” said Darren Roberts, 45, a facilities maintenance and home improvement retail worker who lives in Columbus and considers himself an independent. “I don’t like all of his policies, but I really don’t like Hillary Clinton’s.”Trump's strength in Ohio, a state critical to his path to the White House, comes even as seven in 10 say they view one of his signature campaign pledges—to build a wall along the southern U.S. border funded by Mexico—as unrealistic. The survey shows a strong majority of likely Ohio voters, 57 percent, are skeptical of trade deals such as the North American Free Trade Agreement that was backed by Clinton's husband when he was president and that Trump has used to his political advantage. One in five say such deals help increase exports and employment, and 23 percent aren’t sure. More than four in 10 Clinton supporters see NAFTA as a bad deal, compared to seven in 10 Trump loyalists.

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Another Republican, Senator Rob Portman, holds a commanding lead of 53 percent to 36 percent over former Democratic Governor Ted Strickland in the state's U.S. Senate contest. The incumbent leads with a ratio of more than 2-to-1 among independents and is even getting 14 percent from Democrats and those who lean that way. A sizable share of Ohio's likely voters seem ready to vote a split ticket, the poll shows, with 20 percent of Clinton's supporters also backing Portman. Just 9 percent of Trump supporters are backing Strickland.

When asked whom likely voters support for the U.S. House in their district without the interviewers naming any specific candidates, 51 percent picked Republican or leaned that way, while 38 percent picked Democratic or leaned that way. Some of the Ohio demographic groups where Trump has the biggest edge over Clinton are white men without a college degree (+43 percentage points), white men overall (+27 percentage points), and white women without a college degree (+23 percentage points). More than a third of poll participants, 38 percent, say either they or someone in their household has been unemployed because of layoffs or company closings during the past decade or looked for work but been unable to find a job. Within that group, Trump outperforms Clinton 51 percent to 38 percent. “Our party breakdown differs from other polls, but resembles what happened in Ohio in 2004,” said pollster J. Ann Selzer, whose Iowa-based firm Selzer & Co. oversaw the survey. “It is very difficult to say today who will and who will not show up to vote on Election Day. Our poll suggests more Republicans than Democrats would do that in an Ohio election held today, as they did in 2004 when George W. Bush carried the state by a narrow margin. In 2012, more Democrats showed up.” A higher proportion of men and older voters—groups that tilt Republican—passed the survey's likely-voter screen than typical in past election cycles, Selzer said, boosting Trump's numbers. Party breakdown for the poll was 33 percent Republican, 29 percent Democrats, and 34 percent independents. Exit polling shows that Ohio's electorate in the 2012 presidential election was 38 percent Democratic, 31 percent Republican, and 31 percent independent, while in 2004 it was 40 percent Republican, 35 percent Democratic, and 25 percent independent. In the two-way race, Trump is backed by 85 percent of Republicans and those who lean that way, compared to 92 percent of Democrats and those who lean that way for Clinton.

The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points and included interviews with 802 likely Ohio voters. For subgroups, such as just Trump or just Clinton voters, the margin of error is higher. In the four-way race, Libertarian Party nominee Gary Johnson gets 10 percent and Green Party nominee Jill Stein receives 3 percent. Each is struggling to reach the 15-percent average needed in national polls recognized by the presidential debate commission be included in the first debate on Sept. 26. The poll suggests Johnson may be taking some support from younger voters that might traditionally go to a Democrat. Among those under 35 years old, Johnson is getting support from 22 percent in a four-way race, with the remainder splitting fairly evenly between Clinton and Trump, 36 percent to 33 percent.


Trump is winning three of five Ohio regions the poll carved out to weigh geographic strength. His strongest is southeast Ohio, which includes Appalachian counties he carried in the state's Republican primary in March—a contest he lost overall to Governor John Kasich. Trump is getting 61 percent of the vote there, compared to 31 percent for Clinton. The best area for Clinton is in the northeast, which includes the Democratic strongholds of Cleveland and Youngstown where Trump is trying to sway working-class voters and Clinton is pushing for a high turnout of base supporters, including African-Americans. Jane Tucker of Canton, 57, a retired line cook and chef, said she finds Trump “a loose cannon” and his lack of experience “downright scary.” “Hillary knows that it’s going to take work, and it’s going to take commitment by both Republicans and Democrats to work together to get anything done,” said Tucker, who calls herself an independent who leans Democratic.

Clinton’s voters are more positive about her candidacy than those backing Trump are about his, with 56 percent saying their alignment with her is more an act of support than to stop Trump. His fans, meanwhile, are more closely divided, with 49 percent saying their vote is more to support him and 45 percent more related to their disdain for her. Trump is viewed slightly more favorably than Clinton among Ohio voters, 45 percent to 40 percent. President Barack Obama records a higher number than both of them, with 46 percent viewing him positively. Clinton's husband, former President Bill Clinton, is also viewed positively in the state by 46 percent. Republican vice-presidential nominee Mike Pence, the governor of neighboring Indiana, is viewed more favorably than Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, the Democratic No. 2, 48 percent to 37 percent. Russian President Vladimir Putin, whom Trump praised as a stronger leader than Obama as recently as last week, drawing criticism, is viewed favorably by just 9 percent in Ohio while 73 percent see him negatively.

The poll suggests Trump could have benefited in Ohio from a better relationship with Kasich. The two-term governor and former presidential primary rival scored the highest favorability rating, 59 percent, among 13 people tested in the poll. Kasich has said that despite a pledge during his presidential campaign to support the Republican nominee, he can’t back Trump because he's too divisive. That led former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort to say in July during the Republican National Convention that Kasich was being “petulant” and “embarrassing his party” in Ohio. The governor's role in the fight for Ohio is mixed. While 45 percent of Trump’s supporters said they were more likely to back him because of Kasich’s lack of support, 31 percent of all likely voters said it made them less likely to back Trump, while almost a third said it made no difference.

Reflecting Kasich's strong favorability rating, 57 percent of likely voters say the state is headed in the right direction.
The poll found that unemployment and jobs are the top issue for Ohio's likely voters, with 36 percent picking it from a list of eight options.
Trump has made a strong pitch for working-class voters in Ohio by hammering Clinton on her previous support for trade deals and promising to return companies and jobs that have left. Ohio lost 111,400 manufacturing jobs during the past decade, third most in the U.S., federal data show. More than half of likely voters, 57 percent, say they are bothered a lot by Trump’s mocking of reporter’s physical disability, the highest level of displeasure among three issues challenging Trump that were tested. Almost four in 10 say they are bothered a lot that Trump has not released his tax returns, while 40 percent say that about his charitable foundation’s illegal contribution to the Florida attorney general's political group as she was deciding not to investigate fraud claims against Trump University. Trump has paid an IRS penalty and reimbursed the foundation, his company said.

For Clinton, three controversies, all from her days as secretary of state, each triggered more than half of likely voters to say they were bothered a lot: her handling of the Benghazi attacks where four Americans were killed (59 percent), her use of a private e-mail server that was criticized by the FBI director as “extremely careless” (57 percent), and her family foundation’s acceptance of money from foreign governments (53 percent). Likely Ohio voters are split on the best approach for the Clinton Foundation going forward. A plurality of 39 percent say Bill, Hillary, and Chelsea Clinton should all sever ties with the foundation immediately. The next most popular option, at 29 percent, is for the Clintons to sever ties only if Hillary Clinton is elected president, followed by 24 percent who say the foundation should continue with Bill and Chelsea Clinton’s involvement even if Hillary Clinton is elected.

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-09-14/ohio-poll
Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 1:54pm On Sep 14, 2016
Crucial part and the demographics pushing the surge:

Some of the Ohio demographic groups where Trump has the biggest edge over Clinton are white men without a college degree (+43 percentage points), white men overall (+27 percentage points), and white women without a college degree (+23 percentage points).

^^^So, Trump basically has a 43% differential vs Clinton among white men without college degree and 27% among white men in general. While he's also more favourable among white women without a college degree by 23%. Crazy! grin

P.S: if you have nothing intelligent to post and you can't stick to the topic without personal attacks - stay away from my thread. Chat shiit and get banged upside ya head. You lot should know me better by now cos I'm super-vicious.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 1:56pm On Sep 14, 2016
Donald Trump leads Hillary Clinton by 19 points in poll of military and veteran voters

Donald Trump has established a significant lead in an election poll of military voters, with former soldiers stating they believed the Republican candidate was more in touch with the issues of veterans. Mr Trump is ahead of Hillary Clinton by 19 points, or 55 per cent to 36 per cent of voters in the poll of military personnel commissioned by NBC News and Survey Monkey.

It followed news the Republican candidate had caught up with Mrs Clinton in the standard opinion polls. In the military voters' poll, Fifty-three percent of veterans said they felt more comfortable in Mr Trump’s ability to be an effective commander of the country’s military than Mrs Clinton. Only 28 per cent of military voters said the Democratic candidate could be trusted to look after the issues of veterans, compared with 53 per cent for Mr Trump.

However, the majority of veteran and military voters said they trusted Mrs Clinton to be in charge of America’s nuclear weapons arsenal rather than the outspoken businessman.

On Tuesday, Mr Trump’s camp announced it had secured the support of 88 retired generals from the US army, before Mr Clinton hit back on Wednesday by claiming the backing of 95 high-ranking personnel.

“Hillary Clinton is the only candidate that has the experience, temperament, critical thinking and level-headed leadership to keep America safe and our partnerships strong,” read a joint statement from the former generals. “She has our vote in November.”

The Republican party has claimed the majority of military votes for the past three elections, with Mitt Romney, John McCain and former president George W Bush having the support of a large share of veterans.

Mr Trump was heavily criticised by military personnel and former generals in July after appearing to attack the parents of a Muslim American soldier who died in Iraq.

According to a Reuters/Ipsos poll from last week, Mr Trump and Mrs Clinton are “virtually tied” going into the closing weeks of their campaigns, as support for the Republican candidate increased by six per cent over the past fortnight.

However, Mr Trump still lacks the party support held by Mitt Romney in 2012, who had 85 per cent of support from Republicans during his unsuccessful presidential campaign.

During a speech in Philadelphia on Tuesday, Mr Trump vowed to spend billions building up the US military if he was elected president, introducing new planes, ships, submarines and personnel.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/donald-trump-leads-hillary-clinton-in-poll-military-veteran-voters-a7231576.html
Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 1:57pm On Sep 14, 2016
UPI/CVoter poll: Donald Trump widens lead over Hillary Clinton to 3 points

The UPI/CVoter daily presidential tracking poll released Monday shows Donald Trump leading Hillary Clinton by about 3 percentage points.

The online poll shows Trump with 48.7 percent to Clinton's 45.8 percent in the seven-day polling period ending Sunday. Those responding with "others" were at 5 percent. "Others" in the poll are defined as respondents who decline to pick either Clinton or Trump.

The most recent data reflect a 0.8 percentage point shift toward Clinton compared to data collected a day earlier. Trump was at nearly 50 percent -- 49.1 percent -- compared with 45.3 percent for Clinton in the seven-day polling period ending Saturday. Trump's highest number since July 14 was 49.2 percent on July 24.

Seven days ago, Clinton had a 2-point lead with 48.1 percent compared with 46.1 for Trump in the spread between the two candidates over the course of seven days, the poll's full sample size. Clinton's high was 50.8 on Aug. 16.

The UPI/CVoter online tracking poll surveys about 200 people each day, leading to a sample size of roughly 1,400 people during any seven-day span.

Because the poll is conducted online and individuals self-select to participate, a margin of error cannot be calculated. The poll has a credibility interval of 3 percentage points. This seven-day span includes data collected from Sept. 5 to 11, when 1,815 individuals were surveyed. Of them, 1,260 identified themselves as likely voters.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/09/12/UPICVoter-poll-Donald-Trump-widens-lead-over-Hillary-Clinton-to-3-points/1571473691414/
Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by STFUand4kMeHARD(m): 1:57pm On Sep 14, 2016
God is with the Jews cool

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Onopa(m): 2:20pm On Sep 14, 2016
Go Trump

We're almost there

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Greatzeus(m): 2:45pm On Sep 14, 2016
Everything the world thinks about Trump today was because from the onset he spoke his mind.Many hated him for it.But I asked myself, why will someone seeking the votes of people,end up pissing them off,when he could have just Lied about how he felt about those things eg Mexican immigrants.
Since that day,I knew this guy deserves to be President than that Hillary who never spoke her mind for ones,just some bunch of inspiring words written for her,to make electorates feel good. She couldn't even disclose her terminal disease,until it was discovered recently,I don't trust her.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 2:58pm On Sep 14, 2016
[quote author=Shym3xx post=49352549][/quote]Long time Buddy, I tell you what. As a long student, observer and participant in American elections, I can make a friendly wager with you that The Bigoted Tramp will lose this election in an Electoral Votes landslide. I am not even a bit worried. You can post and copy this. It's less than 2 months away. One thing the backers of Mr Racist doesn't understand or underestimate is the diversity of US spread out through the 50 States. That's gonna be the albatross on his neck. All the polls are being sponsored by media houses and it's in their interest to get the elections close so as to get people's attention and make their cheese. It was closer than this in 2008 against McCain and it was even closer than this in 2012 against Romney and we all know what happened. America is too diverse to elect a Racist, misogynistic clown speaking from both sides of his gutterial mouth who won't release his taxes as other presidential candidates are wont to do. One thing I noticed here on nairaland is that only people that support him are foreigners to US. Most of the few Americans on nairaland can't stand him. That should tell you something.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by LGDON: 3:17pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Long time Buddy, I tell you what. As a long student, observer and participant in American elections, I can make a friendly wager with you that The Bigoted Tramp will lose this election in an Electoral Votes landslide. I am not even a bit worried. You can post and copy this. It's less than 2 months away. One thing the backers of Mr Racist doesn't understand or underestimate is the diversity of US spread out through the 50 States. That's gonna be the albatross on his neck. All the polls are being sponsored by media houses and it's in their interest to get the elections close so as to get people's attention and make their cheese. It was closer than this in 2008 against McCain and it was even closer than this in 2012 against Romney and we all know what happened. America is too diverse to elect a Racist, misogynistic clown speaking from both sides of his gutterial mouth who won't release his taxes as other presidential candidates are wont to do. One thing I noticed here on nairaland is that only people that support him are foreigners to US. Most of the few Americans on nairaland can't stand him. That should tell you something.

I can smell fear in your post

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 3:33pm On Sep 14, 2016
LGDON:


I can smell fear in your post
Fear of what. I am not fighting for myself. I am very well and doing great by all measuring standards. I have few people on nairaland that knows me very well. In fact two of them have been to my house in Chicago and 3 have been to my winter house in Lagos. What I am fighting for is my 3 young ladies, two of them are in college now and Jnr and others like them. I have seen so many presidents in America come and go. This will the be the worst Heaven forbids the Avowed Bigot making fun of an Handicap becomes a President. Like I said, you can join my friendly wager team and you all will go back to hibernation on November 9.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by ValerianSteel(m): 3:39pm On Sep 14, 2016
CBS/YouGov poll has Hillary by +7 points,Quinnipac has Trump by +1,Ohio is not certain yet for Hillary or Trump.The polls are still too early to call at this point,polls after the first two debates will determine which of the candidates has a stroger chance of winning.

Real clear politics average of pollsters for Ohio is Democrat +4,same point Obama had in Ohio '12.

The electoral map is 24 states locked in for Hillary plus DC which puts Hillary at safe 240+ as a starting count,Trump comes in on Election Day with safe 190+ as starting count on Election Day,the remaining states are in contention.With this numbers,Hillary only needs to win Virginia and Florida which summed up equals a total of 42 EV,now add that to 249,she has 291EV,you need 270 EV to win.It's a no brainer how Trump will tilt the electoral map in his favor.

Am not saying he doesn't have a shot,but his path to 270 is much harder than Hillary's.

I didn't add Ohio,Pennsylvania,Colorado,Wisconsin,North Carolina,Georgia,Arizona which are crucial swing and toss up states where Hillary currently has 51-55% chances of winning in each state.Hillary has a higher chances of winning in a landslide by over 300EV while Trump will struggle to get to 270.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 4:20pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Long time Buddy, I tell you what. As a long student, observer and participant in American elections, I can make a friendly wager with you that The Bigoted Tramp will lose this election in an Electoral Votes landslide. I am not even a bit worried. You can post and copy this. It's less than 2 months away. One thing the backers of Mr Racist doesn't understand or underestimate is the diversity of US spread out through the 50 States. That's gonna be the albatross on his neck. All the polls are being sponsored by media houses and it's in their interest to get the elections close so as to get people's attention and make their cheese. It was closer than this in 2008 against McCain and it was even closer than this in 2012 against Romney and we all know what happened. America is too diverse to elect a Racist, misogynistic clown speaking from both sides of his gutterial mouth who won't release his taxes as other presidential candidates are wont to do. One thing I noticed here on nairaland is that only people that support him are foreigners to US. Most of the few Americans on nairaland can't stand him. That should tell you something.

The people on NL are Nigerians living in America and not Americans. I'd even be generous if I were to say only 5% of them max are eligible to vote. So, their opinion is inconsequential.

Now, let's get back to the elections. Yes, Trump did say a lot of vile things about Muslims and immigration. However, apart from probably pandering to nutters who make up his biggest fan base - he has never overtly said anything racist towards black people. He probably said one or two ignorant things - but never anything racist. However, the same can't be said about Hillary Clinton and the track record of the Clinton family.

That said, I think most of the Nigerians in the US are just being unnecessarily scared about what his immigration policies would be. But trust me, his immigration policies are going to be far better than what the Democrats are planning. It's practically impossible to deport the illegal aliens in the US. And there's a rumour that he's even planning to give illegal aliens already living in the US amnesty and a shorter process where they can easily become US citizens. So, I honestly don't know why these people are scared, tbh.

Now back to the issue. This has more to do with black solidarity in the west with African Americans. Having listened to a lot of AA academics who're well acquainted with the Clintons. In as much as majority of them already said they would either vote for the Green Party or not vote at all. They mostly prefer Trump to Clinton.

Once you look at it critically, you'd see why they'd rather want a Trump than a Clinton. Based on the current clime of activism in the US in the AA community, coupled with what Colin Kaepernick started: Trump's presidency will usher in a new era due to the suspicions hovering over Trump for them to start questioning everything he does and demanding answers. Something they were never able to do under Obama cos he's black. And they won't be able do that much under Clinton cos the Clinton have studied how majority of black folks are and once they buy a few over with a bubble - the rest would become complacent.

Trump is like a curse that can become a gift to AAs. And whenever AAs gets their revolutionary jackets on and go full throttle on activism - it always spread all over black communities in the West - especially London. BLM is an example and the momentum for BLM in the UK is crazy right now (though, they do some crazy shiit from time to time by messing up with Heathrow airport). African Americans control the tempo of black activism in the West and this looks a new era where things are going to start getting interesting again. Hence I'm joining the black solidarity.

What some Nigerians in America, who're not even eligible to vote, is inconsequential to the permutation and the bigger picture. Most of them kiss white people's arses rather than form alliance with black communities in the west, anyway. What they like or don't like is their prerogative. It has no bearing on the consciousness folks are pushing for. So, I could care less about them. I'm looking at the bigger picture.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 4:49pm On Sep 14, 2016
Shym3xx:


The people on NL are Nigerians living in America and not Americans. I'd even be generous if I were to say only 5% of them max are eligible to vote. So, their opinion is inconsequential.

Now, let's get back to the elections. Yes, Trump did say a lot of vile things about Muslims and immigration. However, apart from probably pandering to nutters who make up his biggest fan base - he has never overtly said anything racist towards black people. He probably said one or two ignorant things - but never anything racist. However, the same can't be said about Hillary Clinton and the track record of the Clinton family.

That said, I think most of the Nigerians in the US are just being unnecessarily scared about what his immigration policies would be. But trust me, his immigration policies are going to be far better than what the Democrats are planning. It's practically impossible to deport the illegal aliens in the US. And there's a rumour that he's even planning to give illegal aliens already living in the US amnesty and a shorter process where they can easily become US citizens. So, I honestly don't know why these people are scared, tbh.

Now back to the issue. This has more to do with black solidarity in the west with African Americans. Having listened to a lot of AA academics who're well acquainted with the Clintons. In as much as majority of them already said they would either vote for the Green Party or not vote at all. They mostly prefer Trump to Clinton.

Once you look at it critically, you'd see why they'd rather want a Trump than a Clinton. Based on the current clime of activism in the US in the AA community, coupled with what Colin Kaepernick started: Trump's presidency will usher in a new era due to the suspicions hovering over Trump for them to start questioning everything he does and demanding answers. Something they were never able to do under Obama cos he's black. And they won't be able do that much under Clinton cos the Clinton have studied how majority of black folks are and once they buy a few over with a bubble - the rest would become complacent.

Trump is like a curse that can become a gift to AAs. And whenever AAs gets their revolutionary jackets on and go full throttle on activism - it always spread all over black communities in the West - especially London. BLM is an example and the momentum for BLM in the UK is crazy right now (though, they do some crazy shiit from time to time by messing up with Heathrow airport). African Americans control the tempo of black activism in the West and this looks a new era where things are going to start getting interesting again. Hence I'm joining the black solidarity.

What some Nigerians in America, who're not even eligible to vote, is inconsequential to the permutation and the bigger picture. Most of them kiss white people's arses rather than form alliance with black communities in the west, anyway. What they like or don't like is their prerogative. It has no bearing on the consciousness folks are pushing for. So, I could care less about them. I'm looking at the bigger picture.
I can authoritatively tell you that I know some Nigerians here on nairaland that are America citizens like Army of One, CFCman, Missy89 and few others . Those are bonafide Americans that can vote in elections here. About your assertion that Trump will be good for africanamericans, that's total poppycork like you British will say and I will explain why. Since you like to rely on polls, Mr Racist is getting less than 2% of African American votes against 82% for Hillary. Less than 18% percent of Hispanics votes and 0% of Muslim American votes. He's losing with With women and college educated Whites. He's only winning with white men and that will never carry him to the WH. I remember you told me that you have been to N/Y before. America is too diverse and in no way will Americans elect a divisive and a racist clown. My friendly wager is still open to you if you doubt me. He's offended so many Americans and who in the world makes fun of an handicap?. It's no fun for me calling him out but he's a scam artist. Google Trumy University and see how scandalous he is. Obama is on his case now and I can assure u he's doomed. Up till today, the bigoted one still believe Obama was born in Kenya. Ask yourself why he's not releasing his taxes. Any American knows that taxes says a lot about us and you don't want IRS on your case. Clinton released 40 years of her taxes and Tim Kaine releases 10 years and so is Pence who is Trump running mate. He won't release his because it will show he's not as rich as he's claiming, he's a tax cheat and doesn't pay his fair taxes and will also show his debts to Chinese and Russian banks and oligarchs. That's why he's sucking up to Putin to the dismay of many Americans including republicans. What's so fascinating about an original birther and a confirmed racist that you like him. The CEO of his campaign is Steve Bannon of Breibart News who is a racist. David Duke a well known racist running as a republican in Louisiana as a senator is a strong supporter of Trump and making robocalls for him in Louisiana. Alex Jones and the Neo Nazis, White Nationalists and KKK and Aryan Nations are all endorsing him and fundraising for him. One thing about American racist is they know how to subliminally communicate with each other. You that always shows how black conscious you are, is this the group you want to align yourself with ?.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 5:04pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
I can authoritatively tell you that I know some Nigerians here on nairaland that are America citizens like Army of One, CFCman, Missy89 and few others . Those are bonafide Americans that can vote in elections here. About your assertion that Trump will be good for africanamericans, that's total poppycork like you British will say and I will explain why. Since you like to rely on polls, Mr Racist is getting less than 2% of African American votes against 82% for Hillary. Less than 18% percent of Hispanics votes and 0% of Muslim American votes. He's losing with With women and college educated Whites. He's only winning with white men and that will never carry him to the WH. I remember you told me that you have been to N/Y before. America is too diverse and in no way will Americans elect a divisive and a racist clown. My friendly wager is still open to you if you doubt me. He's offended so many Americans and who in the world makes fun of an handicap?. It's no fun for me calling him out but he's a scam artist. Google Trumy University and see how scandalous he is. Obama is on his case now and I can assure u he's doomed. Up till today, the bigoted one still believe Obama was born in Kenya.

Have you checked the latest polls for September? Trump now has 19%-24% among African American voters and 35-39% among Hispanic voters.

Check this:

Recent polls appear to back up his claims, but he’s hardly threatening to overtake Clinton in those key demographics, which still reliably vote Democrat. A Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald poll Tuesday showed 36 percent of Hispanic voters supporting the New York billionaire, an increase of 6 percent compared with a survey in July.

Clinton’s standing among Hispanics meanwhile plummeted from 61 percent in July to 47 percent in September, the same poll showed. Many of Clinton’s Hispanic supporters appear to have gone to Green Party nominee Jill Stein, who went from 0 percent in July to 7 percent in September.

Trump’s support among black voters has nearly doubled in two months, but, again, they remain relatively low. The Franklin Pierce/Herald poll showed Clinton leading Trump 73-19 percent among black voters, compared to the 79-to-10 split the former secretary of state enjoyed in July.

Trump again made a play for minority votes in a speech yesterday, promising to create jobs and reduce crime, calling school choice “the center of this civil rights agenda” and blasting what he called decades of failed Democratic leadership in minority communities.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/09/trump_says_he_s_gaining_black_hispanic_support

Only CFC is eligible to vote. The rest are on BS. Even during the last US election that I followed here, only two or three of them were eligible to vote: Ogugua and some next guy. grin

Listen to African American academics - they all can't stand Clinton. A lot of regular AAs already said they won't even waste their time to vote. The only people shouting Clinton are those who don't know better and the ones scared of Trump. The real people who have lived it would rather have a Trump than Clinton.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 5:17pm On Sep 14, 2016
Shym3xx:


Have you checked the latest polls for September? Trump now has 19%-24% among African American voters and 35-39% among Hispanic voters.

Check this:



Only CFC is eligible to vote. The rest are on BS. Even during the last US election that I followed here, only two or three of them were eligible to vote: Ogugua and some next guy. grin

Listen to African American academics - they all can't stand Clinton. A lot of regular AAs already said they won't even waste their time to vote. The only people shouting Clinton are those who don't know better and the ones scared of Trump. The real people who have lived it would rather have a Trump than Clinton.
Shymex please, where did you get that junk from. Not even George W, McCain or Romney gets double digits with African American talk less of an avowed racist. Like I said, I will donate Up https://www.nairaland.com/3324943/monalisa-chinda-husband-ride-donkeys 250 Pounds to any charity of your choice in Britain and you can tell me what you will do and our friends here will hold us to it. I don't know where you getting this junk you are posting from. No one is scared of The Bigot. We just don't want him to be a symbol of a Great diverse nation. I am as American as Trump or any American is. I fear no one except my Creator. I post a lot of stuff on so many publications and I am not hiding my face. Where does the fear factor comes from. Sorry for that Monalisa junk. I was trying to make a correction and just mistakenly press the wrong thing.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 5:31pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Shymex please, where did you get that junk from. Not even George W, McCain or Romney gets double digits with African American talk less of an avowed racist. Like I said, I will donate Up https://www.nairaland.com/3324943/monalisa-chinda-husband-ride-donkeys 250 Pounds to any charity of your choice in Britain and you can tell me what you will do and our friends here will hold us to it. I don't know where you getting this junk you are posting from. No one is scared of The Bigot. We just don't want him to be a symbol of a Great diverse nation. I am as American as Trump or any American is. I fear no one except my Creator. I post a lot of stuff on so many publications and I am not hiding my face. Where does the fear factor comes from. Sorry for that Monalisa junk. I was trying to make a correction and just mistakenly press the wrong thing.

Lol. That was because McCain and Romney were contesting against a black man (Obama). grin

However, Dubya had decent percentage of black votes in 2004, even after Katrina and the economic meltdown.

You're getting too emotional right now. grin

Clinton is a worse rabid racist than Trump. For someone to label black kids as super-predators, see a hero in Margaret Sanger, and was a party to the war on drug laws that destroyed the black family structure in the America - she's the worst human being ever. Not even counting all the other atrocities she committed across the globe. Conversely, Trump just ranted against immigration and Muslims but he never did anything. Peep the difference.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Adminisher: 5:44pm On Sep 14, 2016
Trump will lose the elections by a worse margin than any Republican in recent memory. He has eroded Republican support in Texas, Utah, NC and maybe even Arkansas and almost turned them now to battle ground.
Because he is such a fake politician he is now dangling traditional liberal programs like paid maternity leave and subsidised child care which will make republicans turn against him in horror.
He has already lost Hispanics, Blacks and more than half of women and all muslims

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by ValerianSteel(m): 6:33pm On Sep 14, 2016
"Dream on".

That's what I have to say to foreigners who desperately wish Trump would win.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 6:38pm On Sep 14, 2016
Shym3xx:


Lol. That was because McCain and Romney were contesting against a black man (Obama). grin

However, Dubya had decent percentage of black votes in 2004, even after Katrina and the economic meltdown.

You're getting too emotional right now. grin

Clinton is a worse rabid racist than Trump. For someone to label black kids as super-predators, see a hero in Margaret Sanger, and was a party to the war on drug laws that destroyed the black family structure in the America - she's the worst human being ever. Not even counting all the other atrocities she committed across the globe. Conversely, Trump just ranted against immigration and Muslims but he never did anything. Peep the difference.
Google the percentage of Blacks that voted for Bill Clinton against Bush Snr and against Bob Dole. If you think Mr Birther is not a racist, then I am Russian too. We shall see on November 8.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 7:18pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Google the percentage of Blacks that voted for Bill Clinton against Bush Snr and against Bob Dole. If you think Mr Birther is not a racist, then I am Russian too. We shall see on November 8.

No. What you need to google is the percentage of blacks who're democrats vis a vis those who are republicans...and you will find your answers there. grin

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Syvyd199: 7:20pm On Sep 14, 2016
Hello every one, how are you? smiley
Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by idupaul: 7:23pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Fear of what. I am not fighting for myself. I am very well and doing great by all measuring standards. I have few people on nairaland that knows me very well. In fact two of them have been to my house in Chicago and 3 have been to my winter house in Lagos. What I am fighting for is my 3 young ladies, two of them are in college now and Jnr and others like them. I have seen so many presidents in America come and go. This will the be the worst Heaven forbids the Avowed Bigot making fun of an Handicap becomes a President. Like I said, you can join my friendly wager team and you all will go back to hibernation on November 9.

I understand your fears but don't worry I assure your daughters will fare better under a Trump presidency so will the whole of Africa ..Hillary and co are the worst thing that happened to Africa but I am suprised many have chosen to fall for her gender than face the facts . Apart from corruption and bad leadership decisions by Hillary and co are up to 40 percent responsible for the insecurity and devastating economy challenging the African continent ..She and her policy's are just good in turning emerging developing nations into rubbles

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 7:59pm On Sep 14, 2016
Shym3xx:


No. What you need to google is the percentage of blacks who're democrats vis a vis those who are republicans...and you will find your answers there. grin
Like I said, I know America and her politics like my palm. There's an African adage that says " show me your friends and I will know who you are ". How come the Klans, White Nationalists, Aryan Nations and other racists are lining up behind him. You will never answer that. I have seen ugliness of racism and I don't want Jim Crow Era in America again. I am still waiting for you on my friendly wager if you are so sure of the con man winning on November 8.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 8:08pm On Sep 14, 2016
idupaul:


I understand your fears but don't worry I assure your daughters will fare better under a Trump presidency so will the whole of Africa ..Hillary and co are the worst thing that happened to Africa but I am suprised many have chosen to fall for her gender than face the facts . Apart from corruption and bad leadership decisions by Hillary and co are up to 40 percent responsible for the insecurity and devastating economy challenging the African continent ..She and her policy's are just good in turning emerging developing nations into rubbles
It is not about my daughters alone. My oldest just graduated from college this past May and she got a good job for a 22 year old. The other two are attending a Jesuit University in Louisiana. Believe me my wife and I have been blessed to take care of our four children. I don't need any assistance from any government. I know about The Bigot for almost 35 years. He has nothing concrete and sound for America. He's a snake oil salesman. If he doesn't accept Obama as an American citizen, what do you think he will think of people that looks like you and I ?.If it looks like a dog and walks like a dog, it's a dog. Surrounded by racist and bigots including Steve Bannon who is the CEO of his campaign. I am amazed how Africans are so in love with a confirmed and avowed racist.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 8:20pm On Sep 14, 2016
Adminisher:
Trump will lose the elections by a worse margin than any Republican in recent memory. He has eroded Republican support in Texas, Utah, NC and maybe even Arkansas and almost turned them now to battle ground.
Because he is such a fake politician he is now dangling traditional liberal programs like paid maternity leave and subsidised child care which will make republicans turn against him in horror.
He has already lost Hispanics, Blacks and more than half of women and all muslims
Good one my friend. I have never seen the kind of love affairs between black people and this worthless Racist who refers to a black guy at his campaign event as my African American. A lots of our people are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. You notice none of them will take me on my friendly wager. I am not a bit surprised. I can't wait till November 8 for all this to pass away. On November 9, The Bigoted one Lapdogs will go into hiding. Less than 2 months and America's nightmare will be over and he will go back to his con game.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 8:33pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
Like I said, I know America and her politics like my palm. There's an African adage that says " show me your friends and I will know who you are ". How come the Klans, White Nationalists, Aryan Nations and other racists are lining up behind him. You will never answer that. I have seen ugliness of racism and I don't want Jim Crow Era in America again. I am still waiting for you on my friendly wager if you are so sure of the con man winning on November 8.

Lol. You sound scared, big bro lol.

I'd wager that based on how Nigerians in America suck white people's nuts and how they think white people treat them differently from AAs they won't have a problem with Trump's presidency since no matter how racist it gets under him - Nigerians will always get a pass, no? Some even suggested that white people have always treated Nigerians differently since the beginning of time and that even during Jim Crow era, the laws weren't applicable to Nigerians despite the fact that they're black loool. And these are the same folks who believe Mike Brown, Tamir Rice et al deserved to be killed by the police lol. You know Nigerians are delusional and utter ignorant lol.

So, why are you scared? Don't worry, you just need dual nationality to be exempted. White people won't target Nigerians looool.

Anyway, most of the US is still deeply segregated like it was during Jim Crow and the only difference is that they're not lynching folks anymore and black women are now free to get fvcked by white men. And a lot of people would argue that black folks were better off economically, academically, and socially based on family structure than they're today. I believe a lot of AAs who aren't millennials would take that without lynching over what they have right now since it will give them control over their own communities.

Regardless, Trump won't do that. I just think black diaspora needs a new wave of consciousness and something similar to what we had in the 60s. And African Americans have always been at the forefront of everything. They're like our leaders and we need them to come through again. So, the current clime and Trump's presidency would provide the needed atmosphere for that to happen. We need a renaissance.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 9:46pm On Sep 14, 2016
Shym3xx:


Lol. You sound scared, big bro lol.

I'd wager that based on how Nigerians in America suck white people's nuts and how they think white people treat them differently from AAs they won't have a problem with Trump's presidency since no matter how racist it gets under him - Nigerians will always get a pass, no? Some even suggested that white people have always treated Nigerians differently since the beginning of time and that even during Jim Crow era, the laws weren't applicable to Nigerians despite the fact that they're black loool. And these are the same folks who believe Mike Brown, Tamir Rice et al deserved to be killed by the police lol. You know Nigerians are delusional and utter ignorant lol.

So, why are you scared? Don't worry, you just need dual nationality to be exempted. White people won't target Nigerians looool.

Anyway, most of the US is still deeply segregated like it was during Jim Crow and the only difference is that they're not lynching folks anymore and black women are now free to get fvcked by white men. And a lot of people would argue that black folks were better off economically, academically, and socially based on family structure than they're today. I believe a lot of AAs who aren't millennials would take that without lynching over what they have right now since it will give them control over their own communities.

Regardless, Trump won't do that. I just think black diaspora needs a new wave of consciousness and something similar to what we had in the 60s. And African Americans have always been at the forefront of everything. They're like our leaders and we need them to come through again. So, the current clime and Trump's presidency would provide the needed atmosphere for that to happen. We need a renaissance.
I don't know about the way Nigerians in America feels about what you just said but one thing I know clearly is that racist don't care if you are Nigerian American or Ghanian or African American. You told me I am scared and getting emotional. I am not scared because I have set my own path in life and the Good man above has been very good to me and my wife. Emotional, yes for a simple and obvious reasons. I love this country with all the cells in my body and I will hate it to be led by a Clownish Bigot. I grew up in a neighborhood called UPTOWN in Chicago when it was very dangerous and violent in the 80s. It was so scary they named it BOB meaning Bucket Of Blood. That was when Republican President Ronald Reagan was supporting the Contras against the Leadership of Manuel Ortega of El Salvador. The US government was flooding American inner cities with drugs under the leadership of Colonel Oliver North with the knowledge of Reagan. That's how bad the racist republicans don't care about blacks and Hispanics. Thank God my siblings and I escaped and so many guys I grew up with did too but many died and some are still addicted till today. One of my closest boyhood friend was just appointed to US District court by Obama waiting for senate confirmation. I know the damage people like Tramp can do and that's why I'm emotional. About blacks being killed, no rational blacks will support that except your girlfriend here who I won't mention by name. In fact, it was generating to name calling between us when I called her Aunty Tomasina. Why would a rational being support killing unarmed blacks that are not a threat to police officers like Michael McDonald here who was shot 16 times while walking away from the cops. This things are personal to us and we don't apologize for it and so is the coming election.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Shym3xx: 10:59pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
I don't know about the way Nigerians in America feels about what you just said but one thing I know clearly is that racist don't care if you are Nigerian American or Ghanian or African American. You told me I am scared and getting emotional. I am not scared because I have set my own path in life and the Good man above has been very good to me and my wife. Emotional, yes for a simple and obvious reasons. I love this country with all the cells in my body and I will hate it to be led by a Clownish Bigot. I grew up in a neighborhood called UPTOWN in Chicago when it was very dangerous and violent in the 80s. It was so scary they named it BOB meaning Bucket Of Blood. That was when Republican President Ronald Reagan was supporting the Contras against the Leadership of Manuel Ortega of El Salvador. The US government was flooding American inner cities with drugs under the leadership of Colonel Oliver North with the knowledge of Reagan. That's how bad the racist republicans don't care about blacks and Hispanics. Thank God my siblings and I escaped and so many guys I grew up with did too but many died and some are still addicted till today. One of my closest boyhood friend was just appointed to US District court by Obama waiting for senate confirmation. I know the damage people like Tramp can do and that's why I'm emotional. About blacks being killed, no rational blacks will support that except your girlfriend here who I won't mention by name. In fact, it was generating to name calling between us when I called her Aunty Tomasina. Why would a rational being support killing unarmed blacks that are not a threat to police officers like Michael McDonald here who was shot 16 times while walking away from the cops. This things are personal to us and we don't apologize for it and so is the coming election.

Yes, Reagan flooded black communities with crack cocaine, guns, and other drugs to fund wars.

However, Bill Clinton continued it and also started locking them up with war on drugs for prison industrial complex. And that was the end of the black family structure in America with most black men turning to jailbirds. So, who's worse?

P.S: update on CNN - Trump is leading in Ohio by 5 points and in Florida by 3 points. He just needs either Michigan or PA now, and it's game over. I believe he's also going to nick NC. grin

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by idupaul: 11:10pm On Sep 14, 2016
Lucasbalo:
It is not about my daughters alone. My oldest just graduated from college this past May and she got a good job for a 22 year old. The other two are attending a Jesuit University in Louisiana. Believe me my wife and I have been blessed to take care of our four children. I don't need any assistance from any government. I know about The Bigot for almost 35 years. He has nothing concrete and sound for America. He's a snake oil salesman. If he doesn't accept Obama as an American citizen, what do you think he will think of people that looks like you and I ?.If it looks like a dog and walks like a dog, it's a dog. Surrounded by racist and bigots including Steve Bannon who is the CEO of his campaign. I am amazed how Africans are so in love with a confirmed and avowed racist.

I actually meant that I understood the fact you wanted a better America for your girls to thrive in and not one that the color of their skin would be an issue in...Don't worry I have this great feeling that Trump would fare better the Hillary ..the only reason I would drop my support from Trump is if Hillary is replaced ..That woman is not good for the world , her roles in the war in Libya and Syria are still active reminders of the kind of seed she sows


Anyone that would would stop the ISIS project has my blessings ..I know Hillary won't because it's her project that went wrong

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by idupaul: 11:11pm On Sep 14, 2016
Shym3xx:


Yes, Reagan flooded black communities with crack cocaine, guns, and other drugs to fund wars.

However, Bill Clinton continued it and also started locking them up with war on drugs for prison industrial complex. And that was the end of the black family structure in America with most black men turning to jailbirds. So, who's worse?

P.S: update on CNN - Trump is leading in Ohio by 5 points and in Florida by 3 points. He just needs either Michigan or PA now, and it's game over. I believe he's also going to nick NC. grin
GODSPEED GODSPEED

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 12:53am On Sep 15, 2016
Shym3xx:


Yes, Reagan flooded black communities with crack cocaine, guns, and other drugs to fund wars.

However, Bill Clinton continued it and also started locking them up with war on drugs for prison industrial complex. And that was the end of the black family structure in America with most black men turning to jailbirds. So, who's worse?

P.S: update on CNN - Trump is leading in Ohio by 5 points and in Florida by 3 points. He just needs either Michigan or PA now, and it's game over. I believe he's also going to nick NC. grin
I know you don't like the Clintons but where was I when Bill was flooding America inner cities with drugs. That's a new one you pulled out of the sky.

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Re: Donald Trump On Surge: Leads By 5% In Ohio, 3% Nationally, & 19% Among Veterans by Lucasbalo(m): 1:00am On Sep 15, 2016
idupaul:


I actually meant that I understood the fact you wanted a better America for your girls to thrive in and not one that the color of their skin would be an issue in...Don't worry I have this great feeling that Trump would fare better the Hillary ..the only reason I would drop my support from Trump is if Hillary is replaced ..That woman is not good for the world , her roles in the war in Libya and Syria are still active reminders of the kind of seed she sows


Anyone that would would stop the ISIS project has my blessings ..I know Hillary won't because it's her project that went wrong
I look at totality of things. No one ever said Hillary is perfect but between her and a Racist, she's got my vote. I have seen the pains and horrors of racism. If you see it, your perspective will be different. Good luck and less than two months to go.

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