fratermathy:


While Asaba is contributory, it is not so much the problem.

The problem is even from Warri, the oil factor and the confluence of Urhobo, Ijaw and Itsekiri. The Itsekiri, especially, made Urhobos feel inferior in many ways due to their influence in those days. The inferiority complex evolved to a negative disposition towards Urhobo language.

I believe that those of us who really want to learn should engage Urhobo teachers, maids, or elderly ones. I learnt the Urhobo I know now by active efforts. I had to go to my village to converse with kinsmen in Urhobo. I was initially speaking what they call "cut-and-paste" Urhobo but through corrections and errors, I improved.

fratermathy:


The same giant tribe that cannot become common Vice President of Nigeria? Or that cannot withstand Hausa and Yoruba? The same one crying marginalization like rabid dogs or the one deluding themselves with Biafra.?

No please. We'd rather go extinct or merge with Yoruba.

Enuguboy4nsk:

annexing you people truly is the only solution to your woes...atleast you will lose your culture and language to an African gian tribe 'igbo' or will you prefer to continue with your pidgeon English

Enuguboy4nsk:

which ties.....who even knows igbide...am just knowing for the first time..up North so far you are a southerner and not yoruba u are automatically igbo..soon we will annex minority tribes in south south

Pprovost:


Lol... All major tribes are guilty of this.


For me, Igbos annexing ND is not a bad idea. I may be wrong.

Enuguboy4nsk:

how is asaba responsible for your woes

fratermathy:


I have denounced that statement and informed him better. Now go, will you!

fratermathy:


It is a terrible idea please because we are neither linguistically nor socio-culturally and politically related with Igbo. Annexation will only lead to resentment, nothing else. As it is now, 90% of Urhobos only TOLERATE Igbos. They don't like or trust Igbos.

fratermathy:


It is a terrible idea please because we are neither linguistically nor socio-culturally and politically related with Igbo. Annexation will only lead to resentment, nothing else. As it is now, 90% of Urhobos only TOLERATE Igbos. They don't like or trust Igbos.

Enuguboy4nsk:

you are already going extinct sha and thats why u have come here to wail...
urhobo is an inferior tribe ravaged with inferiority complex to itshekiri..you said it yourself..
now : Nnamdi azikiwe has been Nigerian president
Alex Ekwueme has been vice president
Alll present 5 south east states have produced the post of the senate president..just to mention but few


can you just tell me the highest position ever held by an urhobo man

besides your lands are already used for operation crocodile smile because you are all slaves to the rest of Nigeria..

Sanchez01:

It seems they're frying biscuits on your head. I'm the last person you'd want to engage on tribal issues, trust me. If you are looking for your kinsmen in Delta state while in Enugu, I'd suggest you journey yourself down there to meet with them. The thread says Urhobo, yet you and your ilks would self-service and die just because you're all out looking for your lost relatives over your senseless struggle.

fratermathy:


The truth is Urhobos never claimed to be a major language or a political bloc as Igbos do. So I am not pained that we may not have acquired any high ranking positions. Our time will eventually come.

Like someone rightly said, you've only done more harm than good on this thread. You've further spoilt my perception of Igbos and I'm sure other Urhobos are in the same boat with me.

The greatness of a people does not lie in boasting... Always remember that.

fratermathy:


It is a terrible idea please because we are neither linguistically nor socio-culturally and politically related with Igbo. Annexation will only lead to resentment, nothing else. As it is now, 90% of Urhobos only TOLERATE Igbos. They don't like or trust Igbos.

bigfrancis21:


I've noticed the tendency for other tribes to project their influence on Igbos but are quick to reject any Igbo influence on their tribal affiliation. Nigeria now knows of the Bini influence on Igboland but did you know that many are not aware of the Igbo influence of the 4 market days of Eke, Oye, Afor and Nkwo on Igala, Idoma and Bini lands which the Igalas, Idomas and Binis use till today?? Many also do not know that Igbo and Bini share many words in similar. The title of the Oba of Bini goes by Omo n'oba Akpolokpolo uku, the 'uku' in the title is the same as 'ukwu' in igbo which stands for great. Igbos say 'nkita' for dog and the Binis say 'ekita'. Osakwe and Osakhue both mean the same thing in Igbo and Bini. These and many more similarities.

Enuguboy4nsk:

u called the first shot why are u retreating
even the urhobo friend i have by name oghenekaro has started learning how to speak Igbo...is not late for you

BarryX:
I think this idea of Igbide having Igbo ancestry gives you serious heavenly feelings going by how many times you mention it in a Niger-delta alignment discourse.

You have always sang it in your mind that the burst out through your fingers. I'm maternally Igbide and trust me, the history that we have never had it the way your ecstacy realism suggest.

If I were you, I will play down that "Igbide ownership" mentality in public discourse or these people will have no other option than to sever ties if any with the Igbos.

It's appaling already

Enuguboy4nsk:

for your info igbos dont also like or trust urhobo

fratermathy:


Bro, many of these minority tribes do not actively try to associate with Igbo for reasons which you may have seen yourself on this thread. Most, but not all, Igbos have the deluded sense of grandeur and are quick to pounce and leech on smaller tribes especially when the tribes acknowledge any form of Igboid influence. The Igbide-Isoko case is exemplary.

Most of us have no resentment or bad blood towards Igbos other than the fact that they show their perceived "superiority" ONLY on smaller tribes. Once Yorubas and Hausas open their mouth, Igbos will hide under the canopy of Biafra and cry "they are marginalising us" when they do worse to smaller groups.

Yorubas and Hausas have posted on this thread and NONE has attracted attention as the Igbos have. That says alot...

erico2k2:

The share borders . They never originated from Igbo however you are more than welcomed to share refrences instead of hear say or assumption

fratermathy:


It was never a competition for me. If it was for you, I am not surprised.

Oghenekaro can learn Igbo from now till the next century, he forever remains an Urhobo! No one can take that from him.

Enuguboy4nsk:

how many 'hausas' get access to internet....as for yorubas they already have the itsekiri and they rather see urhobo as their slaves may be

fratermathy:


Bro, many of these minority tribes do not actively try to associate with Igbo for reasons which you may have seen yourself on this thread. Most, but not all, Igbos have the deluded sense of grandeur and are quick to pounce and leech on smaller tribes especially when the tribes acknowledge any form of Igboid influence. The Igbide-Isoko case is exemplary.

Most of us have no resentment or bad blood towards Igbos other than the fact that they show their perceived "superiority" ONLY on smaller tribes. Once Yorubas and Hausas open their mouth, Igbos will hide under the canopy of Biafra and cry "they are marginalising us" when they do worse to smaller groups.

Yorubas and Hausas have posted on this thread and NONE has attracted attention as the Igbos have. That says alot...

Enuguboy4nsk:

asaba is igbo and i am igbo so he is indirectly directing it to me....leave igbo areas out of your comatous urhobo language which is too local and sound like animal language that the owners themselves are very much ashamed to speak it

fratermathy:

This is a logical fallout of my first assertion. It would be foolish to expect otherwise.

Igboid:


What heavenly feelings? Get over yourself. Isoko is a backward area for all intents and purposes, you don't in anyway have anything Ndiigbo don't have or in need of.


However,historical facts are historical facts.
Igbide is Isoko today, but the people migrated from Igboland. Stating that does not in any way mean that Ndiigbo are interested in incorporating a non Igbo speaking Igbide or entire Isoko people into Igboland or future Igbo nation.

Why exactly are you people this paranoid?

http://www.isokonewyork.org/history.html

And your Igbo is a forward area in all intents and purposes?
Your paradise is sweet, I must confess

Africans will always be Africans

fratermathy:

This is a logical fallout of my first assertion. It would be foolish to expect otherwise.

Enuguboy4nsk:

language and culture make people....so he's already trying to relinquish his inferior Urhobo origin and language to the advanced Igbo heritage...he's wise

fratermathy:


Bro, many of these minority tribes do not actively try to associate with Igbo for reasons which you may have seen yourself on this thread. Most, but not all, Igbos have the deluded sense of grandeur and are quick to pounce and leech on smaller tribes especially when the tribes acknowledge any form of Igboid influence. The Igbide-Isoko case is exemplary.

Most of us have no resentment or bad blood towards Igbos other than the fact that they show their perceived "superiority" ONLY on smaller tribes. Once Yorubas and Hausas open their mouth, Igbos will hide under the canopy of Biafra and cry "they are marginalising us" when they do worse to smaller groups.

Yorubas and Hausas have posted on this thread and NONE has attracted attention as the Igbos have. That says alot...

Efewestern:


Never wanted to quote you.. but i feel insulted with that bolded ... Am not a kid to exchange words with u, But put this at the back of ur mind.. "No SS Minorities Take u serious", We re better alone..

#Peace#

Enuguboy4nsk:

even it is....it doesnt change the bitter truth i made known to you too

fratermathy:


Worldview makes a people. Language and culture may or may not affect world view. Just because Igbos speak English do not mean that Igbos are English people. This is also the case with Oghenekaro.

In any case, even if he wants to be identified as Igbo, he'd have to change his name. He won't be a loss to Urhobos.


What you don't get is that Urhobos are not begging anyone to do anything. What will be will be. Even the so-called Igbo language is giving way for English in urban areas.

blues20:

Thread with caution... you're fucvking up badly....