sisisioge:
50-50 won't be a bad item for now considering that if the partner that invested 15% were to decide to sleep too, they would have to pay a professional with his capabilities to handle the work. In other words, the equal profit sharing will compensate for all the works he does.

50-50 appears fair to me for now. They could decide on a change of agreement in 2years.

kaboninc:


Can you accept a 50/50 arrangement supposing you're partner 1?

masterblogger:
There ought to have been a well documented and agreed sharing formula before the business is executed.

From your stories above, please don't try and be cunny here. The business financier should take 70% while you take 30%.

The business wouldn't have started with your strength, ideas and marketing skills. Money makes it possible. 2mill no be small cash.

BioGreen:
the MOU/MOA should have spelt out the profit sharing formula upfront bearing in mind each partner's contribution in terms of finance, time/effort put in running the business & idea.

Finance:

Partner A = 85%
Partner B = 15%


Time:

Partner A = 10% (meetings, signing/processing cheque, etc)
Partner B = 90%


Idea:

Partner A = 30%
Partner B = 70%


Weighting for each aspect:

Finance - 60%
Time - 30%
Idea - 10%

Let Profit = P

Finance = 0.6P
Time = 0.3P
Idea = 0.1P

Assume Profit = 20 Million
Partner A gets = 0.85 x 0.6P + 0.1 x 0.3P + 0.3 x 0.1P = 11.4 million
Partner B gets = 0.15 x 0.6P + 0.9 x 0.3P + 0.7 x 0.1P = 8.6 million

Hence Partner A gets 57% while Partner B gets 43%

Note that the above partners contribution and weighting is debatable & subject to partners mutual agreement/acceptance.

..Call the above formula/approach/model "Onu-Dexter Profit sharing equation" (all right reserve pls; onudexter@gmail.com)

helovesme:
Hmmm.

For a startup company, whoever provides the largest share of the funding required, should own the larger percentage of shares in the company and should also be entitled to the largest share of the company's profits.

However, in such scenario, the partner that's actively involved in the day to the management of the business could include a "shares buy back" clause in the agreement so that in a case where the business begins to trade profitably, he can either buy out his partner entirely or buy out a portion of his shares.

Keneking:
Is partner one gay? He is your sleeping partner

masterblogger:
There ought to have been a well documented and agreed sharing formula before the business is executed.

From your stories above, please don't try and be cunny here. The business financier should take 70% while you take 30%.

The business wouldn't have started with your strength, ideas and marketing skills. Money makes it possible. 2mill no be small cash.

Yinkatolu:
Profit should be shared based on agreed and documented profit sharing ratio.

And where there's no agreement profit should be shared equally according to Partnership Act 1960

veekid:
Here to read comments from business scholars; I'm not a business man nor an entrepreneur ........ #ImAnEngineer

slick1:
I'll go back to the old saying of 'He who pays be piper calls the tune', even tho it is quite not related to this
Partner A who provided the capital should have major share, cos business plans don't make u rich. It's when people invest & then the business grows u can then make money from ur business idea cos it has bn turned into reality by another man's money.
My advice is be patient and earn as much as u can active Partner B, get a new business idea then invest in it. It's all yours then
P.s. The above advice is for the 'nice guys' but sometimes business needs the 'hard and smart' guys

For the hard and smart guys, use what u r earning from the business to start a rival business that will compete with the current one. You had the original idea, so u know the slight modifications to make to give ur new rival business an edge and make money from two sides.
Don't crucify me, It's just my thought process at work

Yomieluv:
let's apply basic commerce here.

Capital can either be visible or intangible thing, eg- expertise, or experience..

In partnership, if the deed of partnership is silent about sharing of profit, then profit must be shared equally

Contributing money without expertise, or experience won't generate more money. So your experience is your capital, which is also an assets to the business..

4C2215131:
Hello All

Please, your opinion would be very welcome given this business scenario with regard to profit and/or Equity sharing between two business partners thus:

1. Partner one invested 85% of the monies needed by the business. He is a sleeping partner.

2. Partner two does ALL the job required by the business down to marketing at the very elemental level. He has the expertise and is an authority on the type of the business partner one invested in, in fact, it was the strength of his business plan that convinced partner one to invest in his business idea. He is the active partner and is investing all his time in driving the business to success.

To put it in perspective, it's a type of business that demands all of partner two's time involving much networking with people coupled with mental and physical work. For starters partner one has invested 2million (may be little by some people's standards but times are hard o!) with the possibility of injecting more fund into the business if performance within a set time frame meets with acceptable standards.

So there you have it. one man risking his money on the business idea of another without lifting a finger in terms of work save writing the cheque to fund the business. The other not bringing much (just 15%) in terms of fund to the table, all he does is put in all the work that generates the profit and drives the business.

how do you suggest they go about sharing the profits? please, business minded folks should chime in as I believe folks here may be engaged in this type of business arrangement already. thanks.

Seen, lalasticlala,I would very much appreciate it if this could make FP so more views and consequently comments could be generated. Regards.

Yinkatolu:
Profit should be shared based on agreed and documented profit sharing ratio.

And where there's no agreement profit should be shared equally according to Partnership Act 1960

masterblogger:
There ought to have been a well documented and agreed sharing formula before the business is executed.

From your stories above, please don't try and be cunny here. The business financier should take 70% while you take 30%.

The business wouldn't have started with your strength, ideas and marketing skills. Money makes it possible. 2mill no be small cash.

horpe132:
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Now this looks like a "Management" Assignment !!!
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Brb

lonelydora:
I was involved in such business model and it failed because we didn't sign an agreed sharing formula before i doled out the money. In my own, I brought 95%(including cash and machinery) required for the business.

At a time, my partner started feeling cheated, even though, we were sharing the initial profits 50-50, because I was still doing my 9-5 work and he was the one running around for the business. He said afterall he runs the day to day activity. He demanded for 60-40 in his favour and I rejected it. He started doing some jobs behind me for months, and taking the profits alone, and when I ask him, he will say, there's no business because things are hard. He did this for months before I found out. We had to call it a quit. I'm yet to recover my money.

My advice: document and sign every single detail or agreement about the business. When signing the 'agreement' just remember that "I shall" and "I will" have two different meanings. Involve a lawyer and get every damn thing signed. You can share for now 50-50 until the biz stands because remember he has the expertise required. Goodluck and God's grace.

slick1:
I'll go back to the old saying of 'He who pays be piper calls the tune', even tho it is quite not related to this
Partner A who provided the capital should have major share, cos business plans don't make u rich. It's when people invest & then the business grows u can then make money from ur business idea cos it has bn turned into reality by another man's money.
My advice is be patient and earn as much as u can active Partner B, get a new business idea then invest in it. It's all yours then
P.s. The above advice is for the 'nice guys' but sometimes business needs the 'hard and smart' guys

For the hard and smart guys, use what u r earning from the business to start a rival business that will compete with the current one. You had the original idea, so u know the slight modifications to make to give ur new rival business an edge and make money from two sides.
Don't crucify me, It's just my thought process at work

helovesme:
Hmmm.

For a startup company, whoever provides the largest share of the funding required, should own the larger percentage of shares in the company and should also be entitled to the largest share of the company's profits.

However, in such scenario, the partner that's actively involved in the day to day management of the business could include a "shares buy back" clause in the agreement so that in a case where the business begins to trade profitably, he can either buy out his partner entirely or buy out a portion of his shares.

HarkymTheOracle:
Financier (this is d person who makes d business) - 60-70%
Person with d business idea - 30-40%


Hope i helped?

Chukwutobi:
If you want to share the profit fairly then pay partner one his capital and pay partner two commission. After this, share the profit equally.

Yomieluv:
let's apply basic commerce here.

Capital can either be visible or intangible thing, eg- expertise, or experience..

In partnership, if the deed of partnership is silent about sharing of profit, then profit must be shared equally

Contributing money without expertise, or experience won't generate more money. So your experience is your capital, which is also an assets to the business..

NextProdigy:
Profits are shared according to the equity owned by each partner. That has to be agreed even before they begin their business dealings.

chijioke17:
partner one would want more than partner b, and if partner b refuses, there is a chance of partner one pulling out. so my advice is 55-45, that way partner knew doesn't feel cheated and you also don't feel too used. for those little saying partner one should earn more. also remember that if 2million is sitting in the bank for even 2years, it won't generate up to 200thousand. also partner b should remember that he also put in some money no matter how small, it is also his idea, and he is the executioner also. so to me 55-45 is the appropriate sharing ratio.

chijioke17:
partner one would want more than partner b, and if partner b refuses, there is a chance of partner one pulling out. so my advice is 55-45, that way partner knew doesn't feel cheated and you also don't feel too used. for those little saying partner one should earn more. also remember that if 2million is sitting in the bank for even 2years, it won't generate up to 200thousand. also partner b should remember that he also put in some money no matter how small, it is also his idea, and he is the executioner also. so to me 55-45 is the appropriate sharing ratio.