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Re: All Atheist Must Read This by winner01(m): 3:51pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
taurus25:Man would not end up there. Some men would willfully through their personal volition, end up there. I do not have the answers to reconcile Gods Omniscient ability with the fall of man, and neither does any human on earth have the answers to all the questions of humanity. I admit my limits and will not for such reason deny the existence of God. www.nairaland.com/attachments/4361324_s15215822edit_jpegb88435d9547e58191e02a177cadf3285 |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by jonbellion(m): 3:51pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
taurus25:exactly the truth does not behave that way 1 Like |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by winner01(m): 3:52pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
jonbellion:How do you know how the truth behaves |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 3:57pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
winner01:smh, and you just said religiousity is part of humanity? Are you trolling? 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 3:58pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
GRIMMJOE:hahahahhaha
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Re: All Atheist Must Read This by peacesamuel94(m): 4:00pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
atheists view it to be illogical for a supreme Being to have come out from nothing to create everything, but yet betray the same Logic by believing that the Universe came from nothing. So what makes you any different from the christians? |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by jonbellion(m): 4:03pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
winner01:well for one it will be clear. This is not the case in religion. Even in Christianity there are different denominations with their different belief systems, protestants, Baptists , Mormons and Jehovah witnesses just to name a few. We don't disagree like this on a math equation. If the creator of the universe wanted everyone to be aware of it's existence then it would have made it so clear to us so that we would all be in agreement and not allow it's message be spread by falliable corruptible humans that will twist things here and there for their own selfish case. I don't know if a God exists or not but with this confusion I think it is just better to be agnostic. 2 Likes |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:04pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
winner01:it is the truth.. your long epistle was filled with errors...i dont even know where to start from |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by hopefulLandlord: 4:04pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
taurus25: lol Abrahamic god believers usually straight up deny or dance around this but its the truth if there's no hell/heaven idea, there would be MUCH LESS adherents of that god 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by hopefulLandlord: 4:05pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
peacesamuel94: when has atheism ever said we came from nothing? upgrade bro, its not a sin, is it? 2 Likes |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by winner01(m): 4:06pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
MrMontella:No i'm not. Religiousity/spirituality is different from religion. The God shaped void. |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by jonbellion(m): 4:06pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
Not to mention the Abrahamic God sounds man made 2 Likes |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:07pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
peacesamuel94:we do not conclude... We just havent seen the incontrovertible evidence yet... All these are misconceptions of atheism... P.s im not an atheist tho. |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by taurus25(m): 4:12pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
winner01: When i said Man, i didnt mean all men. Or do you not think some men would end up in hell? , if you do, do you think yahweh knew?. The concept of freewill only makes sense if "god" is not omniscient. Because if he is, of all possible decisions or choices man makes, the outcomes are already known beforehand, this makes freewill only an illusion. i do not have the answers to reconcile Gods Omniscient ability with the fall of man, and neither does any human on earth have the answers to all the questions of humanity. Omniscience by definition, is the ability to know all there is. If yahweh is omniscient, then he knew of the fall of man. I admit my limits and will not for such reason deny the existence of God. If the concept of any god is inconsistent or fallible, then such a god is never far away from being a common myth. I dont know if a creator exists or not, but if one does, its definetely not a contradictory one. 2 Likes |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by hopefulLandlord: 4:12pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
MrMontella: that guy pulled a strawman fallacy defined atheism in order to reduce it to the same level as his pathetic religion sad 1 Like |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:12pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
winner01:religiousity is an aspect of religion... If by spirituality you mean higher powers controlling the universe etc....the piraha people are not spiritual.. |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:14pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:people just have misconceptions..everywhere...even the ''old daddies'' we've been teaching..they still dont get it... |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by peacesamuel94(m): 4:15pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: OK thanks for the correction, so where did we come from, what caused it? |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by hopefulLandlord: 4:16pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
taurus25: Mr Taurus we've been through this argument before, even Honourhim opened a thread on it sometime back, Christians themselves don't agree on omniscience and freewill, each one stating empty words despite them claiming to "have a relationship with the holy ghost" seems holy ghost authors confusion afterall 2 Likes |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by hopefulLandlord: 4:18pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
peacesamuel94: atheism doesn't know and admits ignorance about certain things; there is a gap in our knowledge but atheism wouldn't fill that gap with an imaginary friend either 1 Like |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by jonbellion(m): 4:19pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:lol I tire oo
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Re: All Atheist Must Read This by taurus25(m): 4:26pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:some do. some dont. And these are people who all learn from ONE holy spirit. Christainity, as well as other religions are one big fat joke. |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:32pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
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Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:33pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord:the holy ghost made me open a thread about it before.....funny enough each can support their stand and condemn the others with bible verses from the supposed dictated book of just one ''God'' |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by peacesamuel94(m): 4:33pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: so atheists are confused as to how we came about? so why the choice to become atheists in the first place when the knowledge you have about the universe and it origin are inconclusive. |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:37pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
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Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:37pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
peacesamuel94:they are not confused..they are just ignorant as at our present state...admitting ignorance is not bad...i Instead of believing in a fairy tale and pronouncing it as truth.. Admitting ignorance is much more better and open. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by hopefulLandlord: 4:40pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
peacesamuel94:most atheists don't give two huths about how we came about, we just lack belief in all deities there's evolution, there's creationism atheism hasn't selected anyone because we keep our options open who knows in the future, we might discover its through havdksdgsbfvsism that we came about? yes, certain atheists argue for big bang but that doesn't cut across all atheists once something is unknown, it should remain unknown, not filling the gaps and creating a myth round it with absurdities and contradictions, then saying anyone who doesn't believe would burn forever Abrahamic religions and god are one massive joke 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by promise10: 4:40pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
Brigham:Here he goes.... An average atheist falsely claiming to be intelligent! All theists are foolish, and all atheists are wise- charles darwkins(aka the high priest of atheism). |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by felixomor1: 4:41pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
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Re: All Atheist Must Read This by taurus25(m): 4:42pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
peacesamuel94: Scientifically, we have gone very far in piecing the puzzle of exactly how we came to be, were almost there, we arent confused . There's no single evidence for gods existence, all we have are wild assumptions and gap fillers. Thats why almost every culture had their god ideas before the abandonment of many of them due to increase in scientific knowledge. |
Re: All Atheist Must Read This by MrMontella(m): 4:42pm On Oct 25, 2016 |
promise10:have you taken your medications for today bro? 1 Like |
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