onetrack:
1) The person was not lame to begin with. You can easily disguise this. I could fake being lame and then be 'healed'. I would like to see these faith healers regrow an amputated limb. They never do this.
2) when you die your 'soul' ceases to exist. You just become what you were before you were born.

emmayayodeji:
waaw but i regularly attent RCCG camp.. are you saying all the miracles are stagged

emmayayodeji:

1. Am a christian ive been to churches and ive seen the lame work.. How will you explain that?

2. when an individual passes on (dies) what happens to the persons spirit or soul or whatever??

emmayayodeji:
waaw but i regularly attent RCCG camp.. are you saying all the miracles are stagged

emmayayodeji:
For a while now ive been a regular reader of the religion section . i must admit you guys(athiest) seem to be making a point but i have 2 questions
1. Am a christian ive been to churches and ive seen the lame work.. How will you explain that?

emmayayodeji:

2. when an individual passes on (dies) what happens to the persons spirit or soul or whatever??
please explain Thank you

GRIMMJOE:


They are all staged,just like wrestling, and magicians that do tricks,all about care,planning,rehearsal, and a lot of preparations , but no mater what they can't fake an amputee's limb growing



When we die,we are death, Cos energy can't be created or destroy but can be transformed (Evolved) from one form to another,in other words we decay, if it makes you feel any better we turn to manure

Please ask as much question as you want,you will get an answer✌

emmayayodeji:
For a while now ive been a regular reader of the religion section . i must admit you guys(athiest) seem to be making a point but i have 2 questions
1. Am a christian ive been to churches and ive seen the lame work.. How will you explain that?
2. when an individual passes on (dies) what happens to the persons spirit or soul or whatever??
please explain Thank you

emmayayodeji:
A pastor once prophesied to a barren woman that she will give birth to twins.. and it happened how can that be staged??

GRIMMJOE:
It nothing but a guess work,just like beting hope this picture below explains it

onetrack:


Yes. Do you ever wonder why these miracles are never performed in front of, say, skeptical scientists who would set up a carefully controlled experiment?

emmayayodeji:
lol na wa ohhh

onetrack:
1) The person was not lame to begin with. You can easily disguise this. I could fake being lame and then be 'healed'. I would like to see these faith healers regrow an amputated limb. They never do this.
2) when you die your 'soul' ceases to exist. You just become what you were before you were born.

peacesamuel94:


No matter how dumb people could be, you can't possibly fool an entire nation for almost 29years.

onetrack:


Many Nigerians are not fooled by this, they just don't say anything against it.

And yes you can fool people for decades. It has been done many times. Joseph Smith, the convicted con artist who founded the Mormons, has fooled people for 170 years.

peacesamuel94:


You sound like an omniscient personality, yet atheists will claim that they admit not to know all, yet you spoke as if you knew the person to the core.

That some miracles are staged does not make it an established fact that miracles don't happen, You don't conclude that everyone steals, because most people around you are thieves, such mentality is very myopic and onesided

If all miracles were staged then people like Prophet TB Joshua would have been apprehended by now, you mean from 1987 (when he started ministry) up till this very moment he has been fooling Nigerians? No matter how dumb people could be, you can't possibly fool an entire nation for almost 29years.

As a matter of fact, his ministry is not confined to Nigeria alone, his so called "staged miracles" have been taken outside the shores of Nigeria yet the foreigners could not detect his trick.

The truth is this, when something is genuine no matter how criticized it will stand. shalom!

emmayayodeji:
For a while now ive been a regular reader of the religion section . i must admit you guys(athiest) seem to be making a point but i have 2 questions
1. Am a christian ive been to churches and ive seen the lame work.. How will you explain that?

Many of those things are not miracles but fraud. A guy once exposed the fraud of Benny Hinn and how he carefully selects people physically fit to come on stage. Another thing u have to know is the placebo effect. If u take a piece of bread designed like a pill and someone tells u it is a pain killer, it would actually act like a pian killer. Why because u believe it is so ur brain produce the right chemicals for pian killing. So if u believe thag u are lame and u would walk, u might actually work because ur brain believes. But this does not usually last.

2. when an individual passes on (dies) what happens to the persons spirit or soul or whatever??
please explain Thank you

The sad thing many people canttinagine is being non existing after death. So we invent stories to make us feel good. Where wete we before we were born non existing. And that's how we would be after death.

peacesamuel94:


His being a con artist is your personal opinion of him , and what tangible proof do you have that makes you think he has fooled people for 170 years

Deicide:

Ever wonder why Atheist Wants the Miracle workers to Make An Amputee Limb grow back? U can't Fake or stage it


No one Knows what Happen After We Die that's just part of curiosity of Life But from my own understanding i know everything is made up of matter and Energy, Energy can't be destroyed only transformed but what happens to our energy when we die i don't know.

U talked About Soul and Spirit Do u have any evidence of this things Existing??

flamingREED:


Are you aware that after W.F. Kumuyi's prayer, a man whose eye was removed and replaced with plastic started seeing through the plastic?

Internal organs have been recreated.

Deicide:

Pls can i see a video proof of this?

Video proof pls

onetrack:


He was actually convicted of being a con artist in New York State before founding the Mormon church, so this is not my personal opinion, and it's clear from the history of the Mormon church that it was his own personal vehicle for getting lots of women.

peacesamuel94:


let's assume you are right, still, that does not mean that his life should be used as the yardstick for rating every other Prophet in the world today.
miracles happen, and I've witnessed them personally and not on a hearsay basis. so the saying that miracles don't happen because the ones you happen to come across were staged is a very generalized point of view.

peacesamuel94:


You sound like an omniscient personality, yet atheists will claim that they admit not to know all, yet you spoke as if you knew the person to the core.

That some miracles are staged does not make it an established fact that miracles don't happen, You don't conclude that everyone steals, because most people around you are thieves, such mentality is very myopic and onesided.

If all miracles were staged then people like Prophet TB Joshua would have been apprehended by now, you mean from 1987 (when he started ministry) up till this very moment he has been fooling Nigerians? No matter how dumb people could be, you can't possibly fool an entire nation for almost 29years.

As a matter of fact, his ministry is not confined to Nigeria alone, his so called "staged miracles" have been taken outside the shores of Nigeria yet the foreigners could not detect his trick.

The truth is this, when something is genuine no matter how criticized it will stand. shalom!

peacesamuel94:


You sound like an omniscient personality, yet atheists will claim that they admit not to know all, yet you spoke as if you knew the person to the core.

That some miracles are staged does not make it an established fact that miracles don't happen, You don't conclude that everyone steals, because most people around you are thieves, such mentality is very myopic and onesided.

If all miracles were staged then people like Prophet TB Joshua would have been apprehended by now, you mean from 1987 (when he started ministry) up till this very moment he has been fooling Nigerians? No matter how dumb people could be, you can't possibly fool an entire nation for almost 29years.

As a matter of fact, his ministry is not confined to Nigeria alone, his so called "staged miracles" have been taken outside the shores of Nigeria yet the foreigners could not detect his trick.

The truth is this, when something is genuine no matter how criticized it will stand. shalom!

flamingREED:


Are you aware that after W.F. Kumuyi's prayer, a man whose eye was removed and replaced with plastic started seeing through the plastic?

Internal organs have been recreated.

You know what, a limb growing miracle would one day be performed (it may have been performed).
I hope you people would repent then.

flamingREED:


Can I see the video proof of how you developed in your mothers womb so I can be sure it's you and no one else.

BTW, try to google the miracle, maybe you may find more than a proof.

emmayayodeji:
For a while now ive been a regular reader of the religion section . i must admit you guys(athiest) seem to be making a point but i have 2 questions
1. Am a christian ive been to churches and ive seen the lame work.. How will you explain that?

2. when an individual passes on (dies) what happens to the persons spirit or soul or whatever??
please explain Thank you

Lennycool:

DNA analysis would confirm that in no time.


If you look for something hard enough you'll start seeing it, look at a wall long enough and you'll see a face, it doesn't mean its real.