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The Extreme Grace Error! by emekrus(m): 12:57pm On Oct 31, 2016
Quite recently, the Lord opened my eyes to His awesome grace; as contained in the new covenant of God, which was ratified by the shed, precious blood of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ (Ezekiel 36: 26-29; Hebrews 8:7-12).

And to be very honest, God gave me this revelation after reading a book on grace teaching. Only that the grace message I read was pushed to the extreme. The revelation came from God to that man of God- quite alright- only that it was pushed to the extreme, thereby leading to mutilation of other scriptural truths.

If this great man of God had taught this great scriptural revelation in harmony with other balancing scriptural truths, most of the errors in this grace doctrine that have been proliferated all over the place, would have been mitigated.

This pushing of the grace doctrine to the extreme, has led so many people into devastating heresies. It has pushed many folks into getting off on very dangerous tangents.

And I’m sure it is from this extreme grace teachings that the heretic doctrine of OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) was born. I’m also sure it’s from teachings such as this that led someone to share a forum post that read “Forgive—If you do not forgive, you go to hell—False doctrine”. By this message, the author doctored the eternal truth of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Which says if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your heavenly father forgive you (Matthew 6:15).

Hence, this article is written with the intention (and a great burden) in my heart to point out these extremism and smoothen them out. So people do not get deluded—believing a lie about the truth.

The Major Errors of The Extreme Grace Doctrine

1. Error 1: The Commandments of Jesus Before Death and Resurrection Are No Longer Relevant Under Grace

The extreme grace doctrine says that all the Commandments of Jesus before he went to the cross, are no more relevant under this dispensation of Grace. And that Jesus’s teaching before going to the cross was to bring the law to its pristine position, with the intention that we could fully recognize that we cannot keep the law.

There is truth in this point of view, but its half-baked (and half-baked truths are worse than no truth at all). Yes, Jesus did bring the law to its pristine position by his teachings; and by so doing it was obvious we can’t keep them with our own strength or the energy of the flesh. But to say that we can’t keep them at all, is false. Because, if it is so, the Lord won’t demand that we should keep them in his own very words (see Matthew 7:24-27).

And yes, even the disciples observed the human inability to keep the Lord’s commandments in its pristine state. But right there and then, the Lord gave them the key to the obedience. He clearly told them that he knows that keeping the commandments is impossible with men, but it is a possibility with the help of God (Mark 10: 25-27).

In other words, Jesus was telling them that they could keep all his commandments through the help of the Holy Ghost, who is the Spirit of Grace. Hence, the bible tells us that we can establish (or keep) the law of Christ by Faith (Rom 3:31). That is, Faith in the new covenant of Grace through the death of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ (Ezekiel 36: 26-29; Heb 8:7-12, 9:15-22).

And by the grace of God, I’m a living testimony of this eternal truth; of establishing the law by Faith. By faith in the new covenant of grace, I live above sin. I don’t struggle to keep the commandments of Christ. All I just do is lean on the abundance of Grace and the gift of righteousness that I have received from Christ through his Holy Spirit that indwells me (Rom 5:17), and that automates my lifestyle of Holiness.

And if I err, I just quickly receive mercy and forgiveness from the throne of grace (Heb 4:16) and repent of the sin and move on by faith.
But to say we should disregard all the injunctions of Christ before going to the cross, because we are under grace, is a great error and anyone involved in spreading such doctrines should desist as fast as possible for their own good.

Error 2: “There is now no more condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus—whether you Walk in the Spirit or Not”
Another error which I have discovered from these extreme Grace teachings, is that they say, if you are in Christ Jesus, you can never come under any condemnation, whether you walk in the Spirit or not.

And by that, they re-state Romans 8:1, which says “there is now no more condemnation among them that are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit”
Instead, they mutilated this scripture to say what they want to believe thus; “There is now no more condemnation among them that are in Christ Jesus”. The other completing part was mutilated. And to support their point, they quote the New American Standard Bible (NASB) version.

But I’m still wondering if they also mutilated the other scriptures which re-instated the fact that we should walk in the Spirit in order to live above sin (Galatians 5: 16, 18). And that if we walk in the flesh, we will lose our inheritance of the Kingdom of God (that is we will miss heaven and consequently be condemned to hell—Gal 5:19-21).

And again, one more question I want to ask, are the teachers of this doctrine by anyway saying that someone in Christ Jesus, who commits suicide will head straight to heaven-- because he is not under condemnation? And also, is it possible that someone who is in Christ Jesus and eventually dies in the very act of Adultery or Fornication, will head straight to heaven?

Obviously, “there is no snowball chance in hell” of such an individual making it pass the pearly gate of paradise.

Unless they want to make God a liar. Because he says; “But the fearful, and unbelieving and the abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and Idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death”—Revelations 21:8.

For the sake of post brevity, the concluding part of this article (Error 3 and 4 has been continued in my blog)...

Error 3: “All your sins have been Forgiven- Past, Present and Future- so there is no need to ask for forgiveness”

Error 4: “God does not judge people under this Dispensation of Grace!”

Check out my signature below for my blog address...

Emeke Odili

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Re: The Extreme Grace Error! by promise10: 5:23pm On Oct 31, 2016
In my view of the gospel of grace, this thread is rot with many lies, hypocrisy and ignorance of what the gospel of grace teaches.

I will try my best to refute as many as possible.

I will love to do it, to learn more and give people a chance of learning more too.

Stay tune!
Re: The Extreme Grace Error! by Splinz(m): 6:17pm On Oct 31, 2016
Well done OP. You see, these people (so-called grace preachers) have actually converted the grace of God into a license (Jude 1:4) to break God's holy, righteous and good Law (Romans 7:12). Ask why a Law described as "holy, righteous and good" will suddenly becomes expired, burdensome and a curse, and you'd never get an answer. If holiness, righteousness and goodness has been 'nailed to the cross'—abolished, what then shall we practice and keep—the opposite

To these set of people, the phrase "the righteousness of God through Jesus Christ" is an anthem to them. They shout to high heavens about their incredible freedom brought by grace (I wonder who's in bondage, since the Law I know is not just the law of liberty but also perfect—James 1:25). However, it should be noted that their kind of freedom isn't that brought about by the "law of liberty" accompanies by grace, but a liberty brought by the "prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience" (Ephesians 2:2). Interesting enough, this spirit that works in them is also called the "lawless one", whom the Lord will destroy at the appearing of His coming (2 Thessalonians 2:cool. And so, it is not surprising then that these "sons of disobedience" always seeks to do their father's desires—lawlessness (John 8:44-45).

Now speaking of righteousness, Matthew 6:33 says, "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness.......". But what is "righteousness" that a Christian must seek? Looking back at Romans 7:12 quoted earlier and Psalm 119:160, we see that the Law is also called "righteousness". But then, we read somewhere that "righteousness is imputed by faith in Jesus Christ, not by 'works of the law'". Is the Bible contradictory as some claims? Certainly no! But how then can one reconcile righteousness by faith and righteousness by law—will you only accept the former because you believed you're under grace, and reject the latter?

Dear brother, what these people (so-called grace teachers) don't know is that accepting one of these truth and discarding the other only breeds contradiction (where there's none), confusions, denial and hypocrisy—of which God authored not. So, for a sound biblical teaching to be established, these truths must blend—agrees! Of course they'd rather hold on to their "grace gospel" (wonder where they get that kind of gospel from), than coming to terms with all of God's word.

May God help them rightly divide His words.
Re: The Extreme Grace Error! by alolatee(m): 7:02pm On Oct 31, 2016
[quote author=emekrus post=50651871]Quite recently, the Lord opened my eyes to His awesome grace; as contained in the new covenant of God, which was ratified by the shed, precious blood of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ (Ezekiel 36: 26-29; Hebrews 8:7-12).

And to be very honest, God gave me this revelation after reading a book on grace teaching. Only that the grace message I read was pushed to the extreme. The revelation came from God to that man of God- quite alright- only that it was pushed to the extreme, thereby leading to mutilation of other scriptural truths.

If this great man of God had taught this great scriptural revelation in harmony with other balancing scriptural truths, most of the errors in this grace doctrine that have been proliferated all over the place, would have been mitigated.

This pushing of the grace doctrine to the extreme, has led so many people into devastating heresies. It has pushed many folks into getting off on very dangerous tangents.

And I’m sure it is from this extreme grace teachings that the heretic doctrine of OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) was born. I’m also sure it’s from teachings such as this that led someone to share a forum post that read “Forgive—If you do not forgive, you go to hell—False doctrine”. By this message, the author doctored the eternal truth of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Which says if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your heavenly father forgive you (Matthew 6:15).

Hence, this article is written with the intention (and a great burden) in my heart to point out these extremism and smoothen them out. So people do not get deluded—believing a lie about the truth.

The Major Errors of The Extreme Grace Doctrine

1. Error 1: The Commandments of Jesus Before Death and Resurrection Are No Longer Relevant Under Grace

The extreme grace doctrine says that all the Commandments of Jesus before he went to the cross, are no more relevant under this dispensation of Grace. And that Jesus’s teaching before going to the cross was to bring the law to its pristine position, with the intention that we could fully recognize that we cannot keep the law.

There is truth in this point of view, but its half-baked (and half-baked truths are worse than no truth at all). Yes, Jesus did bring the law to its pristine position by his teachings; and by so doing it was obvious we can’t keep them with our own strength or the energy of the flesh. But to say that we can’t keep them at all, is false. Because, if it is so, the Lord won’t demand that we should keep them in his own very words (see Matthew 7:24-27).

And yes, even the disciples observed the human inability to keep the Lord’s commandments in its pristine state. But right there and then, the Lord gave them the key to the obedience. He clearly told them that he knows that keeping the commandments is impossible with men, but it is a possibility with the help of God (Mark 10: 25-27).

In other words, Jesus was telling them that they could keep all his commandments through the help of the Holy Ghost, who is the Spirit of Grace. Hence, the bible tells us that we can establish (or keep) the law of Christ by Faith (Rom 3:31). That is, Faith in the new covenant of Grace through the death of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ (Ezekiel 36: 26-29; Heb 8:7-12, 9:15-22).

And by the grace of God, I’m a living testimony of this eternal truth; of establishing the law by Faith. By faith in the new covenant of grace, I live above sin. I don’t struggle to keep the commandments of Christ. All I just do is lean on the abundance of Grace and the gift of righteousness that I have received from Christ through his Holy Spirit that indwells me (Rom 5:17), and that automates my lifestyle of Holiness.

And if I err, I just quickly receive mercy and forgiveness from the throne of grace (Heb 4:16) and repent of the sin and move on by faith.
But to say we should disregard all the injunctions of Christ before

Believe you me, i earlier wrote in a thread i authured on counsels, i call them those you named extreme grace preachers, cheap grace preachers....how can you say what Jesus did before his resurrecrion is not as valid as the now?I asked my twin brother this allthough he made o reply, i know it is a faulty doctrine.Those who also say that a believer need not ask for forgiveness, what i tell them is, what Job said ' those who break the hedge, the serpent will bite'- and also that grace cannot stop judgement.
Thanks for re-asserting my belief in Christ through this article.I thank God am not the only one thinking like you.
Re: The Extreme Grace Error! by Scholar8200(m): 7:23pm On Oct 31, 2016
Methinks this error is a handmaid of the just believe and 'accept Him' movement. When people are kept at this point they rebel against any talk of the Lordship of Christ over their lives and this is what I find :

And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Luke 6:46

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven
Matthew 7:21

And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Hebrews 5:9

Faith that does not lead to obedience is a lie!

but now has been disclosed and through the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all the nations, according to the commandment of the eternal God, leading them to obedience to the faith,
Romans 16:26

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