This is without a doubt one of the best articles on the evidence for Jesus Christ being real that I have ever read. It is a rather long article but well worth the time to read. The amount of evidence we have available in today’s world that the Bible is a genuine historically correct and relevant book is substantial. Many arguments used to discredit the Bible no longer hold water.

If you are a Believer, this article reaffirms your faith, and is an interesting read. If you are an agnostic, this may help you in making a decision for Christ. If you are an atheist, well I hope you give this article a read with an open mind.

When it comes to the subject of the resurrection of the Christ, (literally his name was pronounced Yeshua). Many tend to believe it can’t be proven but must be accepted on faith alone. While faith is an important issue when it comes to the Bible, lets take a look at the facts surrounding the resurrection of Yeshua (English translation “Joshua” and every international translation “Jesus”). In short, there is more proof that Jesus of Nazareth was raised from the dead, than we have that Julius Caesar even lived!

If you find that hard to believe, then read [url=theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/42659#]the rest of the article here.[/url]

GOD bless you.

Feel free to drop your comments.

DoctorAlien:
Feel free to drop your comments.

A few objections. First one.

The evidence that Jesus resurrected is the fact that 12 men were willing to die for that belief?

[b]

Eyewitnesses to the Resurrection and Miracles of Jesus Christ
The entire framework of the Bible is based on reliable eyewitness accounts, [size=18pt] which are the strongest form of legal evidence. [/size]These accounts include multiple eyewitness testimonies of the unique birth, life, miracles, death and bodily resurrection and ascension of Jesus Christ.
Eyewitnesses included many people who knew Christ face to face for three years, such as the Apostles, so they could not have mistaken His identity. They saw, heard, touched, ate and drank with Christ after his bodily resurrection for 40 days. This overwhelming physical evidence overcame their initial incredulity and disbelief.
They were so sure of their experience that they were also willing to die for what they knew to be true. Some people may sometimes die for a lie that they believe to be true, but for a large group of individuals to all willingly endure severe persecution throughout their lives and die torturous deaths for something they know to be a lie (which they certainly would have known), doesn’t happen.

—[/b]

I've seen 20 men blow themselves up thinking that the creator of the universe desired it. You should know better.



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/

[b]Why Science Tells Us Not to Rely on Eyewitness Accounts


By Hal Arkowitz, Scott O. Lilienfeld on January 1, 2010


IN 1984 KIRK BLOODSWORTH was convicted of the rape and murder of a nine-year-old girl and sentenced to the gas chamber—an outcome that rested largely on the testimony of five eyewitnesses. After Bloodsworth served nine years in prison, DNA testing proved him to be innocent. Such devastating mistakes by eyewitnesses are not rare, according to a report by the Innocence Project, an organization affiliated with the Benjamin N. Cardozo School of Law at Yeshiva University that uses DNA testing to exonerate those wrongfully convicted of crimes. Since the 1990s, when DNA testing was first introduced, Innocence Project researchers have reported that 73 percent of the 239 convictions overturned through DNA testing were based on eyewitness testimony. One third of these overturned cases rested on the testimony of two or more mistaken eyewitnesses. How could so many eyewitnesses be wrong?[/b]

More objections to follow.

Weah96:



A few objections. First one.

The evidence that Jesus resurrected is the fact that 12 men were willing to die for that belief?

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I've seen 20 men blow themselves up thinking that the creator of the universe desired it. You should know better.



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-the-eyes-have-it/



More objections to follow.

You really cannot prove that any man, or indeed any group of men ever said that they saw something, which they know they didn't see, and then were willing to die for such a claim, even though they knew it was a lie, can you?

DoctorAlien:


You really cannot prove that any man, or indeed any group of men ever said that they saw something, which they know they didn't see, and then were willing to die for such a claim, even though they knew it was a lie, can you?

Sorry, this statement is clumsy

DoctorAlien:


You really cannot prove that any man, or indeed any group of men ever said that they saw something, which they know they didn't see, and then were willing to die for such a claim, even though they knew it was a lie, can you?

No. What I have seen is a group of people who were willing to kill themselves, and others, over a delusion. Suicidal tendencies don't affect the dimensions of the truth.
Humans can be willing to die for something and STILL BE WRONG.

Weah96:


No. What I have seen is a group of people who were willing to kill themselves, and others, over a delusion. Suicidal tendencies don't affect the dimensions of the truth.
Humans can be willing to die for something and STILL BE WRONG.

But humans can't be threatened with death, and still continue to profess that they saw something which they know truly that they didn't see.

Weah96:


No. What I have seen i s a group of people who were willing to kill themselves, and others, over a delusion. Suicidal tendencies don't affect the dimensions of the truth.
Humans can be willing to die for something and STILL BE WRONG.

U know in u pple's eyes every other person is having delusions.
Thank God u r not a doctor, and also its obvious u can never be.
Even real doctors kmow that such a significantly large amount of people cant be having delusions simultaneously.

Lol the problem in this story is the extraordinary claims when Jesus died zombies came out of the graves, then he stayed one day and two nights in the grave(barely three) not to mention he now flew up to heaven. I thought heaven wasn't in this dimension. Wouldn't it have made more sense if he just disappeared?? Or can he survive the vacuum of space, was he somehow faster than the speed of light??
And then he's supposed to be coming back again on a flying horse and all eyes would see him. The earth isn't flat so that's impossible.there are many examples of people dying for beliefs which turned out to be false, deceptive, or poorly understood (Hong Xiuquan's Taiping Rebellion followers, Jonestown, Heaven's Gate) just to name a few. Not to mention laws of nature haven't been broken like this before on earth sooo lol what you said about Julius ceaser tho not only do we have the writing of contemporaries Cato the Younger and Cicero but Julius Caesar's own writings as well (Commentarii de Bello Gallico aka The Gallic Wars and Commentarii de Bello Civili aka The Civil War). Then you have the contemporary coins, statues and monuments. But jesus the only contemporary we really have is Paul. Paul never met or even saw Jesus in person.The gospels were written like 40 years after jesus' death . The earliest writing of jesus were from paul. Paul had not met jesus personally like ever but he claimed to have seen a light and heard a voice. Funny enough this was what happened to Mohammed and Joseph smith but christians reject thier stories. Carl Sagan always said extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence . The jesus story is basically like the English legend of king Arthur. They are supposed to be both coming back king Arthur re incarnated as the king of England and Jesus on a flying horse. The king Arthur one even has more of a somewhat grip on reality

There are cases of people dying for beliefs which turned out to be false, but has anybody willingly died for professing anything which he knew was a lie?

Paul yielded his life for what he said he saw; did Mohammed die for what he said he saw?

Also,

Secular historians like Tacitus recorded the fact that Jesus was executed by Roman soldiers. Why did they not produce the body of Jesus to quell the news of His resurrection which was spreading faster than wildfire at that time?

DoctorAlien:


But humans can't be threatened with death, and still continue to profess that they saw something which they know truly that they didn't see.

It depends on whether the humans will be granted their freedom if they recount and admit their lies. An admission of one's lies before a court of vigilantes will embolden them to remove your head even more. It's better to stick to your story and hope for the best.
But like I said, it depends.

felixomor:


U know in u pple's eyes every other person is having delusions.
Thank God u r not a doctor, and also its obvious u can never be.
Even real doctors kmow that such a significantly large amount of people cant be having delusions simultaneously.

Are you an advocate of suicide bombings in the name of Allah?

DoctorAlien:
There are cases of people dying for beliefs which turned out to be false, but has anybody willingly died for professing anything which he knew was a lie?

Paul yielded his life for what he said he saw; did Mohammed die for what he said he saw?

Did Paul say that he saw Jesus or that he saw a number of visions? Seeing visions of Abacha doesn't mean that he resurrected in his corpse body after he died.

DoctorAlien:
Also,

Secular historians like Tacitus recorded the fact that Jesus was executed by Roman soldiers. Why did they not produce the body of Jesus to quell the news of His resurrection which was spreading faster than wildfire at that time?

Because they were soldiers carrying weapons. It's easier to just remove the heads of the people who are disobeying the law, than to go frolicking around with a corpse.

DoctorAlien:
There are cases of people dying for beliefs which turned out to be false, but has anybody willingly died for professing anything which he knew was a lie?

Paul yielded his life for what he said he saw; did Mohammed die for what he said he saw?

Nero didn’t execute Christians for believing in the resurrection of Jesus, but because he had accused them of starting the great fire at Rome in 64 CE. The founder of the Mormon church Joseph Smith was killed by an angry mob. Joseph Smith claimed to have found golden plates of Jewish writings in the Americas, as well as to having been visited by white Native American spirits. Unlike the original twelve disciples, what Joseph Smith believed was well documented by contemporary sources. Furthermore, finding golden plates and translating them into English is much harder to hallucinate that merely having a vision of your dead leader. Smith could not have experienced a vision: he was either lying or he did find the golden plates. Did Smith in the face of persecution renounce his claim? Nope. So Smith died for something that he knew was a lie? Apparently he did. Unfortunately there are people that belong to the Mormon church and swallowed this obvious lie. You can check out the acts of Paul(not of the apostles). During his supposed martyrdom milk was supposed to have spurted out of him. I consider this very strange. Not to mention this whole dying for beliefs thing is basically the argumentum ad martyrdom fallacy

The account of Tacitus at odds with the Christian accounts in The apocryphal Acts of Paul (c. 160 CE) and "The Acts of Peter"

DoctorAlien:
Feel free to drop your comments.

paste the article here hey?

DoctorAlien:


But humans can't be threatened with death, and still continue to profess that they saw something which they know truly that they didn't see.

dont think weirdly bro..
It happens a lot..

DoctorAlien:
When it comes to the subject of the resurrection of the Christ, (literally his name was pronounced Yeshua). Many tend to believe it can’t be proven but must be accepted on faith alone. While faith is an important issue when it comes to the Bible, lets take a look at the facts surrounding the resurrection of Yeshua (English translation “Joshua” and every international translation “Jesus”).In short, there is more proof that Jesus of Nazareth was raised from the dead, than we have that Julius Caesar even lived

the bolded is a pure concrete lie...
In contemporal divisions..caesar trumps jesus...
Or unless you mean the bible?

DoctorAlien:
Also,

Secular historians like Tacitus recorded the fact that Jesus was executed by Roman soldiers. Why did they not produce the body of Jesus to quell the news of His resurrection which was spreading faster than wildfire at that time?

come on!
Tacitus wasnt even born until about 20 years after jesus's death..
How does that validate jesus's claimed resurrection?

Nothing much to see here….apparently.

Silly me, I tuned in to the thread expecting to read about verifiable Evidence, perhaps some newly discovered and authenticated first century parchment by Roman authorities detailing consternation at the fact that the man they had sentenced to death and recently stuck up on a cross had the temerity to be walking about alive and well in broad daylight, or something.....anything?

Sarassin:
Nothing much to see here….apparently.

Silly me, I tuned in to the thread expecting to read about verifiable Evidence, perhaps some newly discovered and authenticated first century parchment by Roman authorities detailing consternation at the fact that the man they had sentenced to death and recently stuck up on a cross had the temerity to be walking about alive and well in broad daylight, or something.....anything?

Exactly bro! I was expecting something more compelling, alas i was disappointed.

Weah96:


It depends on whether the humans will be granted their freedom if they recount and admit their lies. An admission of one's lies before a court of vigilantes will embolden them to remove your head even more. It's better to stick to your story and hope for the best.
But like I said, it depends.

The risen Jesus which the apostles were proclaiming at that time was offensive, and they were asked to stop doing so, or face death. They were outlaws for proclaiming that they saw Jesus, and that He rose from the dead. And surely, recanting their statements would have spared them persecution(but not eternal damnation.)

So, your claim that "admitting your lies before a court of vigilantes will make them remove your head the more" doesn't apply here.

Weah96:


Did Paul say that he saw Jesus or that he saw a number of visions? Seeing visions of Abacha doesn't mean that he resurrected in his corpse body after he died.

Surely it cannot be that nobody on this earth knows where Abacha was buried. And if news started going around town that Abacha rose from the dead, surely his place of rest will be quickly excavated to see if the bones are still there or not.

Why was the body of Jesus not produced as an evidence that He did not resurrected? Surely, Roman guards were placed around His tomb. The Jews which tried their best to prevent His resurrection from happening certainly knew where He was buried, because guards were placed there at their request. Why did they not produce Jesus' body?

Weah96:


Because they were soldiers carrying weapons. It's easier to just remove the heads of the people who are disobeying the law, than to go frolicking around with a corpse.

What made you conclude that the soldiers were not so wise as to know that the most efficient way to silence even the apostles who were preaching the resurrected Jesus, was to parade his dead body?

jonbellion,

Nero was not the first to persecute Christians and the apostles. It started the first day they opened their mouth to say that Jesus rose from the dead. The Jews severally whipped the apostles, and charged them not proclaim Jesus' resurrection anymore. James the Bishop of Jerusalem was beheaded before Nero, I believe. What was their crime? They were simply saying that Jesus rose from the dead.

I may not know whether Smith was severally beaten, whether he was imprisoned often and on, whether he had his properties confiscated, and on several occassions told to recant his statements to be spared persecution and cruel death. However, I don't think a man can be found who continued to say that he saw something, even when it was clear to him that such a statement would cost him his life, and with the man knowing that what he was saying was not true.

raphieMontella:

dont think weirdly bro..
It happens a lot..

Please be gracious enough to provide one example where someone, faced with certain cruel death because of what he was saying, continued to say such a thing, even when he knew it was not true.

DoctorAlien:


The risen Jesus which the apostles were proclaiming at that time was offensive, and they were asked to stop doing so, or face death. They were outlaws for proclaiming that they saw Jesus, and that He rose from the dead. And surely, recanting their statements would have spared them persecution(but not eternal damnation.)

These speculations are unfounded. There would be no one to record this confession for posterity after the execution had occurred anyway. They would go down as executed Christians, without us ever knowing what they said towards the executioner.

If the Nigerian government suddenly decides to round up native doctors and execute them, all the fake ones will die for their lies.

DoctorAlien:


What made you conclude that the soldiers were not so wise as to know that the most efficient way to silence even the apostles who were preaching the resurrected Jesus, was to parade his dead body?

Parade a rotten corpse where and why? I think you're overestimating the gravity of the threat facing the Roman soldiers. You forget that there is no WiFi or newspaper or photograph. It makes logistical sense to pass a law punishable by death.