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Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by olapo: 6:18pm On Oct 30, 2009
when i was reading genesis, i discovered that Cain got married and the child Adam and Eve gave birth to after Cain and Abel got married too, where did those women come from, cos we were made to believe that Adam and eve were the first human beings on earth, i really need to know.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by toba: 6:39pm On Oct 30, 2009
No man exisited before adam.Gen 1 vs 26.God is multi faced i.e Father,son&holy spirit.Yet its still one God.The 1st man on earth is adam while d 2nd is Jesus.but Jesus was d word of God turn man.john 1 from vs 1.so know it now it now.Procreation started with adam i.e cain&abel
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by toba: 6:47pm On Oct 30, 2009
From theology we were told some things that were not written in d bible.Abel died but cain&seth married their sisters,but from genesis-revelation its not written anywhere.Further studies revealed these.rem abraham married his sister sarah which was permitted by God.But from leviticus onward God forbidded such marriages when d world population increased
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Horus(m): 9:43pm On Oct 30, 2009
Genesis 4:14:: King James Version (KJV) - “Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.”

At this time there was only supposed to be living on the planet Earth 1. Adam, 2. Eve, 3. Cain who killed Abel, the only other person on the planet Earth right? Right! So then who was the “EVERYONE that findeth me (Cain) shall slay me?” Think now. Just stop and think. Then look at Genesis 3:1:

Genesis 3:1:: King James Version (KJV) - “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”
“. . . And he (the serpent) said unto the woman . . .” There are no species of snake that can speak, and no species of reptile have a larynx. In order to hold a conversation, and don’t say the heavenly father gave him or it that power, just to beguile (trick) Nekaybaw (Eve) against his own commandments, no, not really. Think! And one more point, (Genesis 4:16) “the land of Nod,” if this is the first and only family on the whole planet Earth, no one else was created yet, just (and I repeat) 1. Adam, 2. Eve, 3. Cain, tell me who set up the land of Nod? Who were the people that lived there, where did they come from, and how long before Adam and Eve did they exist?

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Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 1:41am On Oct 31, 2009
@ the land of Nod reference

^^ Adam wasnt created in Eden.

He was created somewhere else then taken to Eden.



@ topic:

not sure.

Any discussion of this type invariably leads to some esoteric explanations by followers of one movement or another.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by viaro: 2:00am On Oct 31, 2009
tpia.:

Any discussion of this type invariably leads to some esoteric explanations by followers of one movement or another.

True talk.

Now this is a very interesting topic. I'm of the view that there are possible indications that 'man' (as human) might have existed before Adam. This is not because of the idea some people have that Cain married one of his own sisters, or of some presupposed people dwelling in Nod, etc. Rather, while tracing our own humanity back to Adam as the head of the present human race, this does not mean that there have not been other intelligent beings that may be classed as homo sapiens.

Certainly, many, many Christians (and other religious minds) may strongly disagree - and they may quote several verses here and there to support their own views. That is all okay: I know of many of those verses; but after all is considered, it still does not negate the fact of a strong possibility that there might have been humans in existence before Adam and Eve - and that can be established as a Biblical fact as well.

For starters, let me leave an interesting note that not many people might be aware of, viz: the Christian faith is predicated upon the revelations of the Jewish people. As such, one helpful hint might be to draw from something that the Jews themselves hold as a fact. It is common knowledge that the Talmud (in Shabbos 88; Chagiga 14) speaks of 974 generations before Adam. Further, they see this as accounting for the prehistoric humanoid remains that have been discovered hidden in caverns and layers of time.

Now I know that some who are accustomed to traditional interpetations of the Bible may split hairs over this; but I only mention the matter of the Talmud to help stir our interest towards the fact that even the Jews themselves do not hold that Adam is the very first man ever to exist. More on this later, where needs be.

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Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 3:35am On Oct 31, 2009
^^ interesting.









Now, I'm wondering about those people called Nephilim, or giants/sons of God in Gen 6.

Is it possible they were around prior to that time chapter? Taking a wild and possibly wrong guess.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by viaro: 9:46am On Oct 31, 2009
tpia.:

Now, I'm wondering about those people called Nephilim, or giants/sons of God in Gen 6.

Is it possible they were around prior to that time chapter? Taking a wild and possibly wrong guess.

There's nothing wild about your guesses, so I think there's much value in your question. Personally, I would say that the way Genesis puts the narrative in chapter 6 about the Nephilim could suggest indeed that there were some beings closely identified as human in one form or another. Especially verse 4 -

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they
bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old,
men of renown.

There seems to be a delineation between two periods here:

(a) in those days

(b) and also after that

The question that immediately comes to mind is this: where and when did the giants emerge? Surely, that verse did not say that they giants were the products of angels having sired human children from women - no, for that is the traditional way many people have read it.

Looking carefully, the verse first notes that there were giants in those days and after that. . Certainly, after the angels came down to do their 'thing' with those women, we read the product was some species which became "mighty men" (distinct from the "giants" in the earlier part of the verse).

Now, if this line of reasoning has some substance, I dare say that the giants were already there before the angels sired children through women. The necessary question would lead to the inference that some beings closely in semblance to humans were already on the scene - how far back or when exactly they appeared is not something I can decipher from Genesis at the moment.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 2:52am On Nov 01, 2009
^^ thanks.

Very interesting perspective.

I'm still mulling over these things.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 4:47am On Dec 17, 2012
toba: No man exisited before adam.Gen 1 vs 26.God is multi faced i.e Father,son&holy spirit.Yet its still one God.The 1st man on earth is adam while d 2nd is Jesus.but Jesus was d word of God turn man.john 1 from vs 1.so know it now it now.Procreation started with adam i.e cain&abel

that's a load of crap.
cain went "elsewhere" to find his bride.
now if he went elsewhere, that means Adam and Eve were NOT
the first people. wink

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cool cool
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by snochk: 6:20am On Dec 17, 2012
*Kails*:


that's a load of crap.
cain went "elsewhere" to find his bride.
now if he went elsewhere, that means Adam and Eve were NOT
the first people. wink



cool cool


There are indeed many questions begging for answers about the bible. One of which is simple but near impossible for christains to admit. If the Almighty is the source of all things,that means all things good and evil. Throw this school of thought to any chirstain,am sure you will be shocked at their answers.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jan 15
I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans God created but I don't think they were the only humans God created directly.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by An2elect2(f): 3:09pm On Jan 15
And here we have another excuse to disbelieve God.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Thugnificent(m): 3:45pm On Jan 15
striktlymi:
I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans God created but I don't think they were the only humans God created directly.
And they were also punished for the original sin of Adam and Eve?
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by 5minsmadness: 4:34pm On Jan 15
striktlymi:
I believe Adam and Eve were among the first humans God created but I don't think they were the only humans God created directly.
Fixed
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by 5minsmadness: 4:35pm On Jan 15
Thugnificent:
And they were also punished for the original sin of Adam and Eve?
What was the original sin?
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 4:41pm On Jan 15
5minsmadness:

Fixed

Better put...
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by mcfynest(m): 8:19pm On Jan 15
striktlymi:
I believe Adam and Eve were the first humans God created but I don't think they were the only humans God created directly.


Bro you go dig up 2009 thread? For what na
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by braintext(m): 9:19pm On Jan 15
mcfynest:



Bro you go dig up 2009 thread? For what na

i wonder o grin
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by johnw74(m): 6:10am On Jan 16
1Co_15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

1Ti_2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.

Gen_3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
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Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by leke12(m): 10:05am On Jan 16
Adam and Eve story is not real, its a folk tale design inorder to explain reason for human misery! Let me give u a clue, imagine according to d story, there were animals and plants in d garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were sent out frm d garden later, how come will still see d animals and plant in dis present world mostly d apple that was said to be d forbidden fruit. Have u ever imagine were d garden of Eden was? And why is it d jews? Why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? Why did Cain said "people will kill me if they see me" afta he murdered cain? Who are the people? Why is d oldest human bone found in africa? Why do other tribes have their own diff story abt creation,like yoruba,igbo,nupe etc? Many questions to answer! Figure it yourselves....
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by shyna01(m): 11:10am On Jan 16
viaro:


There's nothing wild about your guesses, so I think there's much value in your question. Personally, I would say that the way Genesis puts the narrative in chapter 6 about the Nephilim could suggest indeed that there were some beings closely identified as human in one form or another. Especially verse 4 -

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they
bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old,
men of renown.

There seems to be a delineation between two periods here:

(a) in those days

(b) and also after that

The question that immediately comes to mind is this: where and when did the giants emerge? Surely, that verse did not say that they giants were the products of angels having sired human children from women - no, for that is the traditional way many people have read it.

Looking carefully, the verse first notes that there were giants in those days and after that. . Certainly, after the angels came down to do their 'thing' with those women, we read the product was some species which became "mighty men" (distinct from the "giants" in the earlier part of the verse).

Now, if this line of reasoning has some substance, I dare say that the giants were already there before the angels sired children through women. The necessary question would lead to the inference that some beings closely in semblance to humans were already on the scene - how far back or when exactly they appeared is not something I can decipher from Genesis at the moment.
there is no cause for alarm. the second verse only explained the verse before it. I.e how the giants came to be.
that form of explanation/writing is a little common in the old testament.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by shyna01(m): 11:12am On Jan 16
leke12:
Adam and Eve story is not real, its a folk tale design inorder to explain reason for human misery! Let me give u a clue, imagine according to d story, there were animals and plants in d garden of Eden. Adam and Eve were sent out frm d garden later, how come will still see d animals and plant in dis present world mostly d apple that was said to be d forbidden fruit. Have u ever imagine were d garden of Eden was? And why is it d jews? Why is Adam and Eve depicted as white? Why did Cain said "people will kill me if they see me" afta he murdered cain? Who are the people? Why is d oldest human bone found in africa? Why do other tribes have their own diff story abt creation,like yoruba,igbo,nupe etc? Many questions to answer! Figure it yourselves....
I believe u ain't a Christian but just here to sow confusion.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by shyna01(m): 11:18am On Jan 16
some people believe that humans existed before Adam but died with whatever killed the dinosaurs and hence another creation started.
but people that ever got answers to such questions as these did so by seeking God in prayer and fasting hence I can predict the future of this thread.
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my 3 kobo.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by frank317: 6:49pm On Jan 16
shyna01:
some people believe that humans existed before Adam but died with whatever killed the dinosaurs and hence another creation started.
but people that ever got answers to such questions as these did so by seeking God in prayer and fasting hence I can predict the future of this thread.
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my 3 kobo.

Some people believe there was nothing like Adam... The story is just a meaningless myth.

Even my seven years old niece doubts the childish story

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Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by RikoduoSennin(m): 7:26pm On Jan 16
olapo:
when i was reading genesis, i discovered that Cain got married and the child Adam and Eve gave birth to after Cain and Abel got married too, where did those women come from, cos we were made to believe that Adam and eve were the first human beings on earth, i really need to know.

Please try to read you bible for answers to simple questions like this.

Genesis 5:4 " And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years; and He (Adam) begat SONS and DAUGHTERS.

Every human came from Adam and Eve hence the woman being named 'Eve'- Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name EVE because she was the mother of ALL LIVING"
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by shyna01(m): 7:36pm On Jan 16
frank317:


Some people believe there was nothing like Adam... The story is just a meaningless myth.

Even my seven years old niece doubts the childish story
those give to a reprobate mind...
if u don't believe in Adam I wonder what u are doing in the religious section of nairaland. even going through threads if u not a Christian then go to the gaming section.
Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by frank317: 9:54pm On Jan 17
shyna01:

those give to a reprobate mind...
if u don't believe in Adam I wonder what u are doing in the religious section of nairaland. even going through threads if u not a Christian then go to the gaming section.

Lol... Believe in Adam is the sole reason to be in religious section? Did u even go to school?

How about a counter believe in Adam story? Will I counter the Adam story in politics or sexuality section?

Reprobate mind indeed

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Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by shyna01(m): 3:00pm On Jan 18
frank317:


Lol... Believe in Adam is the sole reason to be in religious section? Did u even go to school?

How about a counter believe in Adam story? Will I counter the Adam story in politics or sexuality section?

Reprobate mind indeed
what I am trying to bring out is if u not a Christian why are u trying to mislead others.... is there any Christian that doesn't believe in Adam?
dey there make pant dey wear u

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