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|Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by olapo: 6:18pm On Oct 30, 2009|
when i was reading genesis, i discovered that Cain got married and the child Adam and Eve gave birth to after Cain and Abel got married too, where did those women come from, cos we were made to believe that Adam and eve were the first human beings on earth, i really need to know.
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by toba: 6:39pm On Oct 30, 2009|
No man exisited before adam.Gen 1 vs 26.God is multi faced i.e Father,son&holy spirit.Yet its still one God.The 1st man on earth is adam while d 2nd is jesus.but jesus was d word of God turn man.john 1 from vs 1.so know it now it now.Procreation started with adam i.e cain&abel
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by toba: 6:47pm On Oct 30, 2009|
From theology we were told some things that were not written in d bible.Abel died but cain&seth married their sisters,but from genesis-revelation its not written anywhere.Further studies revealed these.rem abraham married his sister sarah which was permitted by God.But from leviticus onward God forbidded such marriages when d world population increased
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Horus(m): 9:43pm On Oct 30, 2009|
Genesis 4:14:: King James Version (KJV) - “Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.”
At this time there was only supposed to be living on the planet Earth 1. Adam, 2. Eve, 3. Cain who killed Abel, the only other person on the planet Earth right? Right! So then who was the “EVERYONE that findeth me (Cain) shall slay me?” Think now. Just stop and think. Then look at Genesis 3:1:
Genesis 3:1:: King James Version (KJV) - “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?”
“. . . And he (the serpent) said unto the woman . . .” There are no species of snake that can speak, and no species of reptile have a larynx. In order to hold a conversation, and don’t say the heavenly father gave him or it that power, just to beguile (trick) Nekaybaw (Eve) against his own commandments, no, not really. Think! And one more point, (Genesis 4:16) “the land of Nod,” if this is the first and only family on the whole planet Earth, no one else was created yet, just (and I repeat) 1. Adam, 2. Eve, 3. Cain, tell me who set up the land of Nod? Who were the people that lived there, where did they come from, and how long before Adam and Eve did they exist?
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 1:41am On Oct 31, 2009|
@ the land of Nod reference
^^ Adam wasnt created in Eden.
He was created somewhere else then taken to Eden.
Any discussion of this type invariably leads to some esoteric explanations by followers of one movement or another.
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by viaro: 2:00am On Oct 31, 2009|
Now this is a very interesting topic. I'm of the view that there are possible indications that 'man' (as human) might have existed before Adam. This is not because of the idea some people have that Cain married one of his own sisters, or of some presupposed people dwelling in Nod, etc. Rather, while tracing our own humanity back to Adam as the head of the present human race, this does not mean that there have not been other intelligent beings that may be classed as homo sapiens.
Certainly, many, many Christians (and other religious minds) may strongly disagree - and they may quote several verses here and there to support their own views. That is all okay: I know of many of those verses; but after all is considered, it still does not negate the fact of a strong possibility that there might have been humans in existence before Adam and Eve - and that can be established as a Biblical fact as well.
For starters, let me leave an interesting note that not many people might be aware of, viz: the Christian faith is predicated upon the revelations of the Jewish people. As such, one helpful hint might be to draw from something that the Jews themselves hold as a fact. It is common knowledge that the Talmud (in Shabbos 88; Chagiga 14) speaks of 974 generations before Adam. Further, they see this as accounting for the prehistoric humanoid remains that have been discovered hidden in caverns and layers of time.
Now I know that some who are accustomed to traditional interpetations of the Bible may split hairs over this; but I only mention the matter of the Talmud to help stir our interest towards the fact that even the Jews themselves do not hold that Adam is the very first man ever to exist. More on this later, where needs be.
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 3:35am On Oct 31, 2009|
Now, I'm wondering about those people called Nephilim, or giants/sons of God in Gen 6.
Is it possible they were around prior to that
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by viaro: 9:46am On Oct 31, 2009|
There's nothing wild about your guesses, so I think there's much value in your question. Personally, I would say that the way Genesis puts the narrative in chapter 6 about the Nephilim could suggest indeed that there were some beings closely identified as human in one form or another. Especially verse 4 -
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,
when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they
bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old,
men of renown.
There seems to be a delineation between two periods here:
(a) in those days
(b) and also after that
The question that immediately comes to mind is this: where and when did the giants emerge? Surely, that verse did not say that they giants were the products of angels having sired human children from women - no, for that is the traditional way many people have read it.
Looking carefully, the verse first notes that there were giants in those days and after that. . Certainly, after the angels came down to do their 'thing' with those women, we read the product was some species which became "mighty men" (distinct from the "giants" in the earlier part of the verse).
Now, if this line of reasoning has some substance, I dare say that the giants were already there before the angels sired children through women. The necessary question would lead to the inference that some beings closely in semblance to humans were already on the scene - how far back or when exactly they appeared is not something I can decipher from Genesis at the moment.
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 2:52am On Nov 01, 2009|
Very interesting perspective.
I'm still mulling over these things.
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by Nobody: 4:47am On Dec 17, 2012|
toba: No man exisited before adam.Gen 1 vs 26.God is multi faced i.e Father,son&holy spirit.Yet its still one God.The 1st man on earth is adam while d 2nd is jesus.but jesus was d word of God turn man.john 1 from vs 1.so know it now it now.Procreation started with adam i.e cain&abel
that's a load of crap.
cain went "elsewhere" to find his bride.
now if he went elsewhere, that means Adam and Eve were NOT
the first people.
|Re: Were Some People Existing Before Adam And Eve? by snochk: 6:20am On Dec 17, 2012|
There are indeed many questions begging for answers about the bible. One of which is simple but near impossible for christains to admit. If the Almighty is the source of all things,that means all things good and evil. Throw this school of thought to any chirstain,am sure you will be shocked at their answers.
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