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Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by Nobody: 7:38pm On Nov 13, 2016
Hillary Clinton supporters aren’t ready to give up hope. A Change.org petition created Wednesday wants the Electoral College to vote for the Democratic candidate instead of President-elect Donald Trump.

“On Dec. 19, the electors of the Electoral College will cast their ballots. If they all vote the way their states voted, Donald Trump will win,” the petition reads. “However, they can vote for Hillary Clinton if they choose. Even in states where that is not allowed, their vote would still be counted, they would simply pay a small fine, which we can be sure Clinton supporters will be glad to pay!”

The petition doesn’t want the electors to vote for the New York businessman. “Mr. Trump is unfit to serve,” the petition says. “His scapegoating of so many Americans, and his impulsivity, bullying, lying, admitted history of sexual assault, and utter lack of experience make him a danger to the republic.”

The petition adds Clinton should be president because she won the popular vote. “There is no reason Trump should be president,” it says. “She won the popular vote.” The latest poll showed Clinton had 400,000 more votes than Trump, according to CBS News, CNN and NBC News.

The problem with the plea is the way the Electoral College works. When Americans head to the polls on Election Day, they vote to elect people of the Electoral College. The amount of electors each state has is based on its population. Trump received 290 votes under the Electorial College system, while Clinton won 228 votes.

There is a chance that electors can “go rogue.” It even has a name: “Faithless elector.” But it rarely happens. The last time this occurred was in 2008. Instead voting for Democratic candidate John Kerry, an elector in Minnesota cast a vote for John Edwards. It’s assumed this was an oversight, the New York Times reported.

The Electoral College vote takes place on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December. For this election, that makes the date Dec. 19.

By Friday, the petition had 1.3 million signatures. It has a goal of 4.5 million.

http://www.ibtimes.com/can-hillary-clinton-still-win-electoral-college-vote-december-after-candidate-wins-2445319

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by micfoley: 7:41pm On Nov 13, 2016
Lets wait and see
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by padi94(m): 7:48pm On Nov 13, 2016
You people should let it go alreadx

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by Justiyke4u: 7:51pm On Nov 13, 2016
This their electoral system is even sufisticated which kind system is that

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by franugo(m): 8:03pm On Nov 13, 2016
Utter BS.....trump is the potus, deal with it

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by Nobody: 8:11pm On Nov 13, 2016
franugo:
Utter BS.....trump is the potus, deal with it
calm down na, d electoral college is voting on dec 19, its after den ull knw the real winner of the election. look it up online if u nt clear as to what electoral college is about.

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by general111(m): 8:25pm On Nov 13, 2016
Donald trump will still win it clear and simple.
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by franugo(m): 12:27am On Nov 14, 2016
prettyboi1989:

calm down na, d electoral college is voting on dec 19, its after den ull knw the real winner of the election. look it up online if u nt clear as to what electoral college is about.

them like to make things complicated sha...na two times election dey hold?!?!!!!

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by EzeNri(m): 11:19am On Nov 14, 2016
They forgot to add that 290 Republican delegates and 228 Democrat delegate will only vote.
The delegates were selected prior to the election and only party leaders and those who have strong affiliation with the Presidential nominee were selected.

Most states' law requires that delegates most vote according to popular vote and violation often leads to the state nullifying contra votes and appointing new electors together with a fine imposed on the defaulters. About Florida, New Mexico, North Carolina, Maryland and about other 21 states adopt this law.

For the other states, the party extracts oath of allegiance (a pledge) from electors.

But to avoid stories that touch, only party leaders and party members with unalloyed allegiance to the Presidential nominee are chosen.

Only an insane will believe that a man who against all odds won the Republican nominee over great men like Cruz, Bush, Carson and other 13 candidates will lose a college election. Only a terrorist will believe that Republicans electors, will dash democrats 42 votes.

Come Dec. 19th, Trump will sign the certificate of return.

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Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by smartleo(m): 11:18pm On Nov 14, 2016
EzeNri:
They forgot to add that 290 Republican delegates and 228 Democrat delegate will only vote.
The delegates were selected prior to the election and only party leaders and those who have strong affiliation with the Presidential nominee were selected.

Most states' law requires that delegates most vote according to popular vote and violation often leads to the state nullifying contra votes and appointing new electors together with a fine imposed on the defaulters. About Florida, New Mexico, North Carolina, Maryland and about other 21 states adopt this law.

For the other states, the party extracts oath of allegiance (a pledge) from electors.

But to avoid stories that touch, only party leaders and party members with unalloyed allegiance to the Presidential nominee are chosen.

Only an insane will believe that a man who against all odds won the Republican nominee over great men like Cruz, Bush, Carson and other 13 candidates will lose a college election. Only a terrorist will believe that Republicans electors, will dash democrats 42 votes.

Come Dec. 19th, Trump will sign the certificate of return.
You have said the correct words,y you deserve a Phd
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by EzeNri(m): 8:04am On Nov 15, 2016
smartleo:

You have said the correct words,y you deserve a Phd
Most of them doesn't know that Trump scored over 14 million votes to win the Republican Nominee.

It is only a terrorist that will believe a man who scored over 14 million votes to become a nominee will lose a college vote whose electors are the 306 most trusted part of that over 14 million.

Most of them doesn't know the politics behind appointing Preibus as Chief of Staff. Most of them doesn't know he is the current National Chairman of the Republican Party. He is well loved. His appointment will make sure the electors won't go rogue.
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by Nobody: 4:16pm On Nov 15, 2016
EzeNri:
They forgot to add that 290 Republican delegates and 228 Democrat delegate will only vote.
The delegates were selected prior to the election and only party leaders and those who have strong affiliation with the Presidential nominee were selected.

Most states' law requires that delegates most vote according to popular vote and violation often leads to the state nullifying contra votes and appointing new electors together with a fine imposed on the defaulters. About Florida, New Mexico, North Carolina, Maryland and about other 21 states adopt this law.

For the other states, the party extracts oath of allegiance (a pledge) from electors.

But to avoid stories that touch, only party leaders and party members with unalloyed allegiance to the Presidential nominee are chosen.

Only an insane will believe that a man who against all odds won the Republican nominee over great men like Cruz, Bush, Carson and other 13 candidates will lose a college election. Only a terrorist will believe that Republicans electors, will dash democrats 42 votes.

Come Dec. 19th, Trump will sign the certificate of return.

But are you really sure that the Republican officials at the state level are enthusiastic about Trump? Wasn't it just a week ago that many high-profile Republicans were abandoning him in droves?

Besides, any fine the electors have to pay for voting for Clinton can be settled by George Soros. cheesy
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by Nobody: 5:41pm On Nov 15, 2016
EzeNri:
They forgot to add that 290 Republican delegates and 228 Democrat delegate will only vote.
The delegates were selected prior to the election and only party leaders and those who have strong affiliation with the Presidential nominee were selected.

Most states' law requires that delegates most vote according to popular vote and violation often leads to the state nullifying contra votes and appointing new electors together with a fine imposed on the defaulters. About Florida, New Mexico, North Carolina, Maryland and about other 21 states adopt this law.

For the other states, the party extracts oath of allegiance (a pledge) from electors.

But to avoid stories that touch, only party leaders and party members with unalloyed allegiance to the Presidential nominee are chosen.

Only an insane will believe that a man who against all odds won the Republican nominee over great men like Cruz, Bush, Carson and other 13 candidates will lose a college election. Only a terrorist will believe that Republicans electors, will dash democrats 42 votes.

Come Dec. 19th, Trump will sign the certificate of return.
bt hope u knw there could be a case of failthless electors
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by EzeNri(m): 9:27pm On Nov 15, 2016
prettyboi1989:

bt hope u knw there could be a case of failthless electors
It is rare. Very rare and those faithless electors can't overturn the election becos of some state laws that made it illegal to do so.
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by EzeNri(m): 9:40pm On Nov 15, 2016
CFCman:


But are you really sure that the Republican officials at the state level are enthusiastic about Trump? Wasn't it just a week ago that many high-profile Republicans were abandoning him in droves?

Besides, any fine the electors have to pay for voting for Clinton can be settled by George Soros. cheesy
The fine is not actually that much. But in some state (25) of them, you MUST vote according to popular vote. If an elector violates that, some state law recognises such contra-votes as invalid, a new elector will be appointed to vote again. It is nearly impossible for electors to overturn an already won election.

Do you know why Priebus, the Republican National chair was appointed Chief of Staff before the college vote? He was appointed to make sure the electors won't go rogue. He is a man known as Face of Republican Establishment, a man well respected within the Republican circle. A very close pal to Ryan, the Speaker.

The electors are selected before Presidential election and only people with strong affinity with the Presidential candidate are selected.

Finally, Trump won the Presidential Nomination with over 14M votes. Over 14M republicans voted for him to emerge candidate. Do you still believe he won't get atleast 270 votes from Republican again?

Trump is American's 45th President.
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by Nobody: 9:56pm On Nov 15, 2016
EzeNri:

It is rare. Very rare and those faithless electors can't overturn the election becos of some state laws that made it illegal to do so.
the penalties are nt so heavy like that, they could evn be pardoned by clinton of she wins. who knows
Re: Can Hillary Clinton Still Win? Electoral College To Vote In December by EzeNri(m): 10:08pm On Nov 15, 2016
prettyboi1989:

the penalties are nt so heavy like that, they could evn be pardoned by clinton of she wins. who knows
According to some state's law, if an elector votes against the popular vote, the vote automatically becomes invalid. Another elector who must vote according to the popular vote will be appointed.

Trump won the nomination with over 14m votes, so 270 votes from his most trusted friends will be easy to come by couple with the fact that 25 specified in clear terms that an elector must vote along popular line.

It will be easier for electors to vote against Clinton than Trump. Denying him his already earned votes will not be without consequences if inaugurated as president, becos certainly he will win the college votes.

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