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What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by MizMyColi(f): 11:02am On Dec 20, 2016 |
Good morning. This is the thread. Let me get my questions ready Sarassin: |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by MizMyColi(f): 11:27am On Dec 20, 2016 |
1. You talked about what is truly known about the man Jesus.... Save for our gut instinct, how can we be sure as to what is the truth about his life and times, especially considering that neither you, I, nor anyone in this age was present during his lifetime. Some have even argued that he never existed, some swear that they know him and even dined with him before stepping out. Is there some proof out there that he actually died and rose again? Have you come across these truly authentic sayings. Can you share? I won't deny that lately, I have had cause to think that some parts of the bible might have been "modified" because tbh, if I followed the bible to the latter, I would not believe in God.... Which brings me to my last question for now. (Though I like to think of Jesus as the son of God, not a deity. Referring to Jesus as deity makes me feel pagan-ish) Do you believe that there is an Almighty God from whom these deities proceed? cc: Sarrassin 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Radiohead6(f): 11:27am On Dec 20, 2016 |
Witches are real Demon possessions are real mermaids are hairless sea animals with humàniod qualities " The holy spirit guides us God is not concerned 'We all have Angels who are not equal to others due to we not having the tools of spiritual warfare thereby your requested prayers are held down by fallen Angels due to you not been spiritually strong We cannot be harmed physically by demons as the same code is followed by angels ; Demons use sooth Sayers witches and human mind control to carry out their dirty work ! Satan and his Fallens have never been to hell ; forgivess is real and Aliens Exist I'm done here |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Radiohead6(f): 11:30am On Dec 20, 2016 |
MizMyColi:yes and you don't,doubt you just need convincing so you don't sway back on what you believe,in |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by MizMyColi(f): 11:46am On Dec 20, 2016 |
Radiohead6: Actually someone said and I quote:- There is no truth which you will be told now that you do not already know deep within. What anyone can do is to remind you of that which you have long forgotten. This is me re-seeking the truth. I |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Radiohead6(f): 12:04pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
MizMyColi:its already been sought by you my dear but trust me overwhelming evidence would come from Unexpected angles and places you weren't even looking just to disprove the ''the truth already know' because the truth is the breakthrough and trust me when you search for this hidden truth within you :your access to the heavenly realm is eaisier beyond believe the same way it has been easy communicating with ur thoughts which arnt of the holy spirit since the boundary of truth hasn't been broken yet |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by johnydon22(m): 1:44pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
MizMyColi:this Is platonian philosophy |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by MizMyColi(f): 3:06pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
johnydon22: So far, it's worked for me. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by toluwanimi07(m): 3:12pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
He died for me on the cross of Calvary at Golgotha he his my Lord and personal saviour |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Ranchhoddas: 3:37pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Oga Sarassin Please tell us the different ''mandates'' of these deities. When you say ''Ganesha removes obstacles'' do you mean physical obstacles? |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by uzoexcel(m): 7:21pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Lol... |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 8:48pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Well, as you may know, the Archangel Michael will come to your aid in times of severe difficulties, if one requires supernatural assistance to dispel malign influences then an invocation of Michael will remedy the situation. Ganesha is the Hindu elephant headed deity known as the remover of obstacles, very few Hindu's will undertake a new venture without invoking Ganesha, the deity is extremely powerful, wherever there are obstacles in the path of one's progress, an invocation of this deity will remedy the situation virtually immediately. as an aside, on the 21st September 1995, Ganesha statues and statuettes began to accept offerings of milk all over the world, you placed a spoon-full or more of milk at the base of its trunk and it would accept it, the milk would slowly vanish in your presence as you held it in offering. This occurred for that day only everywhere from Bombay to New Delhi, from Nepal to Karachi, London to Toronto.....and then just as mysteriously...it stoppped. The African deity "Papa Legba" is a "gatekeeper" Other deities have their uses, but I am not promoting any belief systems or deities here. I hope this helps. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Rilwayne001: 8:54pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
^^ This guy ehn |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 9:11pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: hehehe .....Oh yes, it is also the case that the most potent name of God to invoke for meditative practice or trance is of course Allah, it is the most rythmic and Gnosis inducing appellation of the supreme Divine being. But I bet you already knew that. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Rilwayne001: 9:16pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Sarassin: Yessir. However bro, I really envy your your philosophy of life. I wish i could understand as much as you do. Perhaps I will like to know you better. 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by johnydon22(m): 10:04pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
MizMyColi: It's nice |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 10:06pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
MizMyColi: We can be certain that Jesus of Nazareth lived and died. We are also certain that early Jewish Christians, Greeks and Romans had far better information about the life and times of the man Jesus than we do at present, we are 100% percent that this information was largely suppressed and destroyed by later church authorities, but for the intrepid and the brave, the life of Jesus can be whispered through the ghosts of history. It is clear that Jesus was tried for sedition and sentenced to death by crucifixion, we know this because the Roman’s although merciless were not careless, they recorded details of all capital trials, unfortunately the details of the trial records of Jesus did not make good reading for Christians, it talked about “Jesus’ gang, Brigandage, highway men and robbers”, it contained none of the present day fairy tales of Jesus bantering with Caesar “Are you the King of the Jews?” e.t.c, e.t.., The very idea of an accused speaking back at Caesar in first century Palestine is laughable. In fact the trial records reflected so badly on Christianity that Jewish Christian authorities would not even pick up a copy of the proceedings, and when it was finally made public in the 3rd century…..it was disowned. There is no evidence beyond belief and faith that Jesus rose from the dead, imagine the reaction of the Roman authorities if a man they had just sentenced to death had the temerity to climb down from his crucifixion and walk around in broad daylight for at least 40 days. The sermon on the mount is one of the few authentic sayings of Jesus, there are technical reasons for this that I would rather not go into here, but there are dozens others attributed to Jesus that he could never have uttered, for instance, the story about the “coin in the mouth of the fish” I would not say that the Bible has been modified, that is to imply that there once existed a more “original “version and that was never the case. Christians know only what Christian authorities wish them to know. None of this diminishes Jesus. Whether you refer to him as a deity or a God or a son of God is largely irrelevant. Jesus is in the pantheon of the greats and stands unique as the emanator of compassion to mankind. In truth, man looks in the mirror and creates his God in his own image, we create our own deities by constant adoration and once that adoration ceases, the gods cease to exist. One hundred years from now our descendants will deify and worship Mother Theresa. Deities are an emanation of the Supreme Divine being in a form knowable to humankind. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by flamingREED(m): 10:15pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Children of darkness: Talking about Jesus and never quoting the scriptures. God's wrath will surely descend on all of you, Sooner or later.. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 10:38pm On Dec 20, 2016 |
Rilwayne001: Thanks very much, I learn from your posts too, we are all learning together. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by edogho(m): 5:45am On Dec 21, 2016 |
flamingREED:Spoiler spotted. Carry your "God's Wrath" elsewhere. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Ranchhoddas: 8:12am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Sarassin:Deep stuff. How are these deities invoked? Is it by just mentioning their names? A list of some more deities and their mandates would be nice if it's not a bother. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Ranchhoddas: 8:13am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Shut up! flamingREED: |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by JesusPowers: 10:07am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Dear assassin, your pot of spiritual meat is deep and strong. How did you get to this spiritual level? You speak with a certain knowing. Can you see different dimensions simultaneously? What's your take on the vibrations of Allah arkbar? |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by jchioma: 10:18am On Dec 21, 2016 |
My question: Did Jesus really existed in the context that we place him today? Was he an actual historical figure? Because evidence abound that shows that Jesus character is based upon much older myths. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 10:41am On Dec 21, 2016 |
JesusPowers: The only vibration that Allahu Akbar brings is the sound of bomb blasts & pieces of human flesh littering the street. @Sarassin - Tell me what you think about the Gayatri Mantra by Deval Premal. 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by MizMyColi(f): 11:26am On Dec 21, 2016 |
Good morning Sarassin I have read your reply. I will ask more questions as soon as my baby sleeps deeply, so I can concentrate well. I'm currently trying to get her to sleep while Nairalanding. Thank you for obliging me 2 Likes |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 11:59am On Dec 21, 2016 |
JesusPowers: Thank you. I wrote on another thread that the most powerful Divine name to invoke for meditation practice is Allah. The rythmic incantation opens up the avenue for communication with one's greater self. "Al" on the in-breathe and "lah" on the outbreath produces a rythmic harmony causing the heart to resonate in sympathy. And just so Christians do not feel left out, the above works also if one invokes the name of God as Jesus himself would have pronounced it in his native Aramaic..."Alaha" The answer to your second question is Yes. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 12:03pm On Dec 21, 2016 |
Zoharariel: You are very blessed if you even "Know" about the Gayatri Mantra. You don't need me to explain this to you. Recite it in its original form, better still have it "transmitted to you", it will change your life. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 12:10pm On Dec 21, 2016 |
Ranchhoddas: Thank you and it's no bother at all. I am happy to answer the above but I feel that to do your questions any justice this thread may be derailed. Perhaps on another thread? |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by JesusPowers: 12:19pm On Dec 21, 2016 |
Sarassin:I will make contact with you second week of January when things are less busy so we can discuss deep things. Thanks. |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by orisa37: 12:52pm On Dec 21, 2016 |
The Proverb, "half a Word is enough for the Wise". So please read again, The Gospels, Hebrew and Revelation. And you will know, that Christ Jesus, is no Myth. He is History, Dreams and Imaginations made real. By the way, how much do know about St. Paul and the generation of his Training Institutions. Saul was an Atheist became Scribe, became Rabbi, and had Vision, saw Jesus and became Paul and an Apostle of Jesus. The Bible is sacrosanct. Until you can beat these qualities and experience of St. Paul, there're numerous real quality Assurance about Jesus of Nazareth, Born of The Virgin Mary, Son of God, CHRIST, God in Heaven. 1 Like |
Re: What Do You Believe About Jesus And Why Do You Believe In Him by Nobody: 1:29pm On Dec 21, 2016 |
Sarassin:THIS is holy ground. |
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